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Anyone else trying not not to contact a guy part 2??

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 20/06/2024 21:51

Hey loves @namechangeforthis5 @Frith2013 and whoever else I can think of.

How we all doing?

I'm having a weird night; I've been drinking and guess what skill it reminded me I've developed: crying out of one eye. It means that people generally don't notice, in the car, or lying on the couch or in bed.

That's sad, isn't it.

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 16/09/2024 12:29

I'm experimenting: two friends in my life who never text me first, him and one other.

I wonder...if I never text them again first, are we done?

I suspect yes. That'd be a shame. But I'm done forcing my friendship on people who don't really seem to deserve it any more. I'm a good person, but they don't seem to be that bothered.

I couldn't have done it a few months ago, this thread has definitely made me stronger, plus some things I'm doing in my life that are moving along just fine without them.

Let's see shall we? I think I know the answer, and maybe I'm finally ready to let it happen.

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TheMagicDeckchair · 16/09/2024 15:05

Frith2013 · 15/09/2024 23:30

I am so tempted to add onto the WhatsApp group "what an impressive achievement! I bet your wife is delighted for you".

I'm actually going to go to bed now to stop myself!

By all means enjoy the fantasy of posting a response, and post about it here if you want! But I promise that if you put anything in the WhatsApp group right now you will wish you hadn’t.

I can completely understand how it must be galling to see everyone fawning over this moron, but your silence is the best strategy at the moment.

Can you mute the conversation and maybe take a break from the hobby group for a while? I wouldn’t leave the conversation as that’ll feed into the drama. I think that would help a lot with your recovery. Some empowering music might help you right now.

namechangeforthis5 · 16/09/2024 15:14

@TheMagicDeckchair has it spot on

Frith2013 · 16/09/2024 15:16

OK, everyone, stand down!

I said I was "tempted".

It IS muted and the vast majority of the fawning has stopped.

namechangeforthis5 · 16/09/2024 17:37

😄 sorry @Frith2013 if you thought we were piling on lol

loveburnt · 16/09/2024 18:30

I was listening to the new Linkin Park song today and thought yup!

"The Emptiness Machine"

Your blades are sharpened with precision
Flashing your favorite point of view
I know you're waiting in the distance
Just like you always do
Just like you always do

Already pulling me in
Already under my skin
And I know exactly how this ends, I

Let you cut me open
Just to watch me bleed
Gave up who I am for who you wanted me to be
Don't know why I'm hoping
For what I won't receive
Falling for the promise of the emptiness machine
The emptiness machine.

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 18/09/2024 08:42

Having a bit of a mopey week; it'll be ovulation week then! Fucking hormones.

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namechangeforthis5 · 18/09/2024 18:06

Yeah the hormones are a bitch. I started thinking earlier why did he let me walk away so easily and why hasn’t he made an effort etc then realised I’m on my period. And tbh it limped along for way longer than it should’ve done anyway

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 18/09/2024 19:01

Yeah it's annoying as fuck. Especially as I now seem to get ten days of emotional upheaval when I ovulate, then the same again when I actually get my period. Literally half of my life now is ruled by my cycle, wasn't this way in my thirties!

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namechangeforthis5 · 19/09/2024 08:40

Stupid isn’t it? I still wonder though if he just realised I was too much hassle so was horrible to get rid of me

Bestnottoworry · 19/09/2024 10:36

I am 1 week no contact after a very long affair. I'm married, he is a twice divorced knob head. I must admit that that past years have been an emotional minefield but I am now beginning to see the light. He told me it "wasn't working for him anymore and it was all one sided". Yep, I was risking everything for a guy who never once admitted feelings for me. I have days when I want to make excuses to text him but towards the end I could feel subtle hints that he was acting differently and I won't be treated like that anymore. I will do it this time and hopefully feel inner peace at last. I should be grateful that I never got found out, my dirty little secret and I will have to live with the guilt. The amount of times we had no contact and the sordid little thing started up again but this time I feel stronger. Hope this helps a bit to those struggling as well.

namechangeforthis5 · 20/09/2024 09:57

Well done @Bestnottoworry

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 20/09/2024 10:25

It's been a week for me too. I've not even been tempted to contact him, not that I could now. It's so much easier this time, it feels like it's properly done with no lingering feelings on my part. I'm not angry or sad about him. I'm mad at myself for letting it happen again, but I've done everything I can to limit the opportunity for it to happen again.

pubertyalloveragain · 20/09/2024 13:05

LizaMinnellisFurCoat · 20/09/2024 10:25

It's been a week for me too. I've not even been tempted to contact him, not that I could now. It's so much easier this time, it feels like it's properly done with no lingering feelings on my part. I'm not angry or sad about him. I'm mad at myself for letting it happen again, but I've done everything I can to limit the opportunity for it to happen again.

That's the goal isn't it - Indifference.

Jaz1987 · 20/09/2024 13:21

I’m in the 1 week club also…I think I would have caved tho if I hadn’t deleted his number 🫣 I wish I could feel indifference 🙄

namechangeforthis5 · 20/09/2024 13:23

@LizaMinnellisFurCoat thars exactly how I feel ☺️. I could text him now and it would just be absolutely pointless. We have zero to say to each other and I don’t care. I’m just annoyed with myself for getting into it but I’ve learnt not to take my happy marriage and family for granted. And there’s still the niggly did he even care but I gave him plenty of chances so I think he just only cares about himself tbh. I’m glad you have got to that point x

namechangeforthis5 · 20/09/2024 13:33

And I did delete his number and it’s still deleted but I meant in theory because I screenshot it but don’t know where it is

Bestnottoworry · 20/09/2024 14:59

@namechangeforthis5 I know his number off by heart but trying to forget it. Still trying to sum the courage to block completely. Feels so odd going from talking most days to absolutely nothing. That's what I struggle with sadly.

namechangeforthis5 · 20/09/2024 15:21

Aw I can’t imagine. We hadn’t actually met up so hadn’t been face to face in 5 years so it’s probably easier. I’ve actually deleted the screenshot as well now.

Thewookiemustgo · 20/09/2024 17:34

I think the part about projecting what a prince you thought they were is accurate. When I had a really limerant relationship with a guy at Uni, I thought he was a prince amongst men and it was obvious he missed me and still thought about me because he kept coming back.
And to my eternal shame, I let him. He only missed what he could get from me and kept me insanely dangling with on/ off situations so that when ‘on’ suited him, there I was. 🙈 I thought one day he’d miss me so much he’d realise he really did love me like he said he did. 🙄
Did he think about me? Only when he wanted something from me.
Did he miss me? He missed the sex probably.
If he’d really missed me, really regretted anything, really wanted me and not his long term girlfriend back at home, he’d have been with me, in a proper relationship.
The last straw for me (of many last straws because I was an idiot, telling myself all sorts of crap to explain my situation and letting myself believe it) was when he’d contacted me after I’d been working abroad that Summer break and his course term started early. He invited me to come and visit him and said his relationship with his girlfriend was ‘pretty much over’ and I was overjoyed and like a twat I went.
He only had to snap his fingers and stupid Wookie showed up,
thinking he must mean it this time…. this time he’d really missed me and this is it!!! Slept with him all weekend (no, really? What could he have possibly wanted? 🙄) and then heard him down the hall on the phone all lovey-dovey to his girlfriend, very much still going on, not over at all.
I packed my bag and left, spent the evening sobbing with a bottle of Martini and a very sad movie. Mid-sob, I realised I was utterly exhausted with it all and felt so shit that I had gone completely numb inside. I heard myself say I couldn’t do this any more. Wrote him a letter telling him exactly what I thought of him and that was that for me.
When I went back to Uni he was totally baffled that his little plaything had dead shark eyes and even after the letter, thought I was bluffing. It was agony to see him around all the time but I never went back to him.
Grey rock and no more contact is the only way, know you’re worth and remember actions speak louder than words. Men who keep you on a string are worthless, uncaring twats who are far more concerned with how good your continued attention makes them feel than with you personally.
He had the gall to contact me a few years later from his bloody honeymoon (I know, bastard or what??) actually wanting to see me when he got back. By then it was jaw-droppingly easy to see what a manipulative narcissist he was and how I’d let him love-bomb me then play me like a violin. I was in my twenties then, so luckily I learned when I was young to avoid ever being an OW and avoid mooning after unavailable men who are more than happy to serve you the occasional crumb from their life if you let them.
Don’t be somebody’s ego crutch and boredom cure. You are all worth way more than that, whatever they say or said.
The article is right, they don’t think about you or miss you because you meant anything, they miss whatever your attention provided them with. Some ex-affair partners often don’t miss the OW, because some of them regret the whole thing and even thinking about any of it reminds them not of a torrid love affair, doesn’t fill them with longing, it just reminds them of the time they were lying shits who became the worst version of themselves and they don’t sigh, they shudder.
Sadly I now know of two men who had affairs who ended their lives, not through missing their OW, it was through being unable to
live with the guilt of what they had done to their wife and children and their inability to be able to turn the clock back and not have done it at all.
Just don’t be anybody’s plaything or life-crutch, or OW. All of those three things give away your worth and your love to no avail whatsoever, for most women they end in utter misery.
You’re all worth so much more.
I read something the other day that resonated with me, wish I could remember who wrote it:
”Take the sticker off your forehead that says “Please love me!” and put it on the mirror, where it belongs.”

Now go and have a fabulous weekend spoiling yourselves, ladies. X

Frith2013 · 21/09/2024 11:23

I've lost over a stone and had a job interview this morning.

Moving forward (hopefully)

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 21/09/2024 11:27

Nice one @Frith2013

What was the interview for? I'll cross my fingers for you!

I am not doing brilliantly but meh, I've got plans with an old friend later today who I haven't seen for years so that's good.

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Frith2013 · 21/09/2024 12:04

@YouAreAllMySymmetry a local supermarket. I haven't had a job for a couple of years.

Hope you have a good weekend. I'm going to the football this afternoon.

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 21/09/2024 12:10

Cool, good luck, and have fun at the football'

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