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Anyone else trying not not to contact a guy part 2??

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 20/06/2024 21:51

Hey loves @namechangeforthis5 @Frith2013 and whoever else I can think of.

How we all doing?

I'm having a weird night; I've been drinking and guess what skill it reminded me I've developed: crying out of one eye. It means that people generally don't notice, in the car, or lying on the couch or in bed.

That's sad, isn't it.

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 29/08/2024 08:41

Things are fine; work is really really busy which helps, and I'm doing some creative things on the side which is a really great distraction.

Home is home; teenagers are kinda hard work and it can be boring. They just want to go off and do their own things which leaves me at a loose end, so I fill my time with hobbies.

They're solitary hobbies though, and I guess I do feel a bit lonely really; but I can't keep harking back to other times because in reality, it wasn't all amazing.

In those days I didn't sleep, I physically couldn't eat a lot of days, I was running on pure adrenaline and that's just not sustainable.

Interestingly someone approached me about an AMAZING job which, weirdly, is right round the corner from where he lives. I was so excited about it but that was a week ago and it's been radio silence since.

I'm really desperate to interview for it, it's a great role in an interesting industry, but I can't deny that my mind immediately went 'oh hello universe, making moves on my behalf in the background'.

It's silly really.

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 29/08/2024 09:10

Also MN has bumped me back to my original username on this thread in case you are confused 😁

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namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 09:33

It’s not silly at all. I get the same feelings and I think that’s where it goes wrong for me. I’m glad you’re doing ok.

namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 09:33

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 29/08/2024 09:10

Also MN has bumped me back to my original username on this thread in case you are confused 😁

Same here. Can’t use the other one anymore

Thewookiemustgo · 29/08/2024 10:04

@namechangeforthis5 as the (very old) song goes, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again.
Look at it this way, you’ve got the answer to “what happens if I communicate with this guy in any way?”
1: you’re back to square 1
2: he thinks you’re back in the game and the first thing he thinks of is….sex. (Charming) A bit of flattery and flummery to surround what many, many (pretty much all) guys in any kind of affair are really looking for.
3: To me this shows he’s probably hoping this is where it’s going and he’s pathetic.
4: It didn’t make you feel any better, in fact now you feel worse.

It’s not the end of the world, just a lesson. If you want to feel this crap again, then rinse and repeat. If you think validation from a guy who’s being a jerk is worth anything, rinse and repeat.

What if Namechange is worth more than this? What if attention and seduction by a chancer isn’t the be-all and end-all?
Why does Namechange rate communication with a guy who could wreck her life at any minute higher than validation from someone who is genuinely in her corner?
Put it this way, you go for a jog and some random with all the gear and no idea says “Wow Namechange! You’re a really great runner!” Round the next bend you meet Mo Farah and he says “Wow Namechange! You’re a really great runner!”
Whose opinion would matter most?
Don’t measure yourself by the validation and attention from bottom feeders.
Seeking out this guy is doing just that: I need attention, I need validation/ I need a boost to my self esteem. Don’t go looking in the bargain basement for it.
This guy provides all three on tap, that’s why this crap turns heads and is like an addiction. You just need one more hit….then comes the downer. You got a momentary high from the attention and the flattery and being told you are desirable.
Afterwards you feel like crap.
You don’t need anybody else to tell you how great and lovable you are! Trust in your own worth and value yourself higher.
I can hear that you feel you’ve let yourself down and now you’re adding a layer to your guilt of letting others here down too. Don’t. Everyone here knows how hard it is to break a habit, so everyone here understands.
You know your answers now, don’t beat yourself up, it happened, the cure is in getting back on the horse and keeping going. Don’t allow yourself self-pity or wallowing, put the relapse behind you and redirect yourself to your higher purpose. You’ve got this Namechange, and I think no less of you. To make it on the first round would be pretty rare I think.

In general:
It proves what I firmly believe: the only way out of these things, affairs or exes or whatever they are for anybody here: no-contact whatsoever is the only way to go.
If you work with them (I know how hard this is for many reasons and how outrageous this sounds) then seriously consider moving jobs, or restrict yourself to necessary, short, work based contact only. If you can’t stop obsessing and you work with your limerant object, getting out is a very real option. Otherwise it’s a bit like an alcoholic giving up the booze but still working in the bar.
Be careful with the lies you tell yourselves, if you have decided to try to be ‘just friends’ ( ‘not just friends’ is the title of a great book by Shirley Glass btw) ask yourself honestly why.
Is it really “better that way” or “I don’t want to be rude” or on some level is it “I’m not strong enough to go cold turkey/ don’t deep down honestly want to but know I should and it’s gives me an excuse to engage with him.” ?
I see here and there a lot of posters who are saying they want to stop but are also in between the lines saying “I’m not ready to do that yet.”
This is the truth: There is no such thing as “I can’t stop”. It might take time and it will take a lot of effort, but everyone can stop. It’s a choice.
Find out (with therapy or a personal inventory) why you choose to do this. It’s a choice.
Just before you text or call: STOP. Ask yourself WHY. Ask yourself “What do I need right now that this contact will give me?” And “How will I feel afterwards?” Then choose. It’s your choice to do this or not to do it, but hand-wringing and saying “I can’t stop!” (You can) or saying “Why am I doing this to myself?” without ever answering that question, will get you nowhere.
Get honest, get out of your own way and get in your own corner, you’re worth more than you think you are. You’re all worth the meal in the restaurant, not the scraps from it in the bin outside.
If you’re wondering why Wookie witters on so much: women get a lot of crap from a lot of places and I get frustrated watching women (and men) on threads, who come across as nice, decent, kind people, stuck in pain and self-sabotage when they are worth way more than they’re allowing.
Just keep going and remember your own worth.

namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 12:48

@Thewookiemustgo you're just brilliant. You’re so wise and again I really appreciate you taking the time to write that post. You have no idea how much that means to me. Honestly. Thank you x

Thewookiemustgo · 29/08/2024 15:52

I’m in your corner Namechange. Kept going, you know it’s worth it. X

Inawe81 · 29/08/2024 16:07

I'm having a real weak couple of days and can't stop thinking about him. He did text me 3 weeks ago, it was literally 4 words saying he hoped I was well , I haven't replied. He has treated me as a booty call basically since we met and had flaked on me a couple of times , cancelling last minute . He never made actual time for me the way he did for his friends, just fitting me in around his work , never actually asking me to go out anywhere with him. He only ever wanted to come to mine. He also blocked me several months ago, and has tried to reconnect a few weeks ago. Please someone make me see sense

loveburnt · 29/08/2024 16:11

Never be someone's option!

Inawe81 · 29/08/2024 16:21

To be honest, I had no urge to contact him but then he contacted me a few weeks ago after a few months of no contact and it's f#cked with my head again and now the urge to contact him is back

namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 16:29

Inawe81 · 29/08/2024 16:21

To be honest, I had no urge to contact him but then he contacted me a few weeks ago after a few months of no contact and it's f#cked with my head again and now the urge to contact him is back

This is what happened to me. I went weeks then he messaged me and I managed to not get into a deep chat but then messaged him yesterday!

Inawe81 · 29/08/2024 16:39

@namechangeforthis5 it's so annoying isn't it. And I have deleted the chat thread so I would have to add him again on Whatsapp.
I'm hoping he reaches out again with something a bit more substantial.

namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 17:45

I think I’ve just confirmed that OM only wants me for one thing even though he’s said several times he wants to be friends, thinks a lot of me etc

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 29/08/2024 17:49

You know what. Maybe it was the confirmation you needed?

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instantick · 29/08/2024 19:05

YouAreAllMySymmetry · 20/06/2024 21:51

Hey loves @namechangeforthis5 @Frith2013 and whoever else I can think of.

How we all doing?

I'm having a weird night; I've been drinking and guess what skill it reminded me I've developed: crying out of one eye. It means that people generally don't notice, in the car, or lying on the couch or in bed.

That's sad, isn't it.

i think all of us in this sito niid to gt back on thi hors n forgt thii no goodas

instantick · 29/08/2024 19:06

lif is way too short, dont look back wiv rigrits, kyboard brokn x

Kat888 · 29/08/2024 20:31

@Inawe81 i totally understand how you are feeling. I had something similar and he did the same thing he contacted me like nothing happened. It took all my strength but I didn't reply but I'm still thinking about him even though he doesn't deserve me.

It's like I want him to try again and I don't know why.

Inawe81 · 29/08/2024 20:46

@Kat888 mine did the same, no apology, nothing, just texted out of the blue like none of that other stuff had happened.
Well done for not replying, that must have been hard. How long has it been since you last heard from him? He might try and contact you again

namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 22:03

I’ve managed to tell mine I don’t think of him that way and asked what if I don’t. I bet my bottom dollar he fucks off

namechangeforthis5 · 29/08/2024 22:45

He said it was fine

Kat888 · 29/08/2024 22:55

@Inawe81 it's been a few months since he did so I doubt it. It's weird though because I know he's pointless and a waste of time so I must keep remembering that.

noitsachicken · 30/08/2024 06:43

How do you feel about that @namechangeforthis5?

noitsachicken · 30/08/2024 06:50

I keep dipping in and out of this thread.

My situation and I have been chatting on and off, but it’s not been the same since something happened between us a few weeks ago. I miss chatting to him.
I might see him today, I will definitely see him on Monday.
I just want things to be normal and back to how they were. I’m not sure that will happen though.

namechangeforthis5 · 30/08/2024 08:22

noitsachicken · 30/08/2024 06:43

How do you feel about that @namechangeforthis5?

Good.

Frith2013 · 30/08/2024 13:48

It never bloody ends.

I went out this morning.

I came back at 12.30 and there was a mystery bike leaning against my house. This was fairly horrific as I had left the back door open (like literally open, for the cat to go outside).

I crept around the house, flinging doors open (as though I would somehow startle an intruder to death!)

Didn't recognise the bike. It didn't belong to either of my grown up children or their partners.

Eventually I thought to look at the Ring doorbell and lo and behold, there was the gentleman in question. No contact for nearly 7 weeks but he decided to bring back the bike I gave him, AGES ago. It was second hand and I had completely forgotten about it. It wasn't a loan, it is because my oldest cycles everywhere and we always have spare bikes hanging around.

He doesn't drive so has now made himself without a bike.

I had forgotten about it, he knew I had other surplus bikes and I wouldn't have asked for it back from him in a million years.

Really a physical shock to see him striding away on the doorbell footage.

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