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Anyone else trying not not to contact a guy part 2??

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YouAreAllMySymmetry · 20/06/2024 21:51

Hey loves @namechangeforthis5 @Frith2013 and whoever else I can think of.

How we all doing?

I'm having a weird night; I've been drinking and guess what skill it reminded me I've developed: crying out of one eye. It means that people generally don't notice, in the car, or lying on the couch or in bed.

That's sad, isn't it.

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lovelymango · 10/08/2024 21:58

Wise words @Thewookiemustgo and thank you for sharing. It sounds like you went through an awful time but here you are. I really appreciate hearing your side. I don’t think you will ever really how much that has supported me. I never want to do anything to my family or his. And he would make sure he was ok trust me.

Thewookiemustgo · 10/08/2024 23:33

@lovelymango thank you. I believe you.
I totally believe that you or most people generally would never intentionally harm anyone, but here’s the thing, if texts were read or affairs found out by those in the dark, the damage would be terrible and the hurt unimaginable, intended or not.
If the only thing between hurting someone and not hurting them is secrecy, and the people doing it know that, then whether or not it’s intentional is neither here nor there, the outcome is obvious, so the responsibility still lies with them and it’s better not done at all or stopped completely.
My husband knew that what he was doing would hurt me, he didn’t want to hurt me either, but sadly despite knowing and telling himself that, he was selfish and entitled and that didn’t stop him, he did it anyway. He lied and tried to keep it a secret to avoid hurting me but also to enable him to continue his wrongdoing. He knew the knowledge of it would hurt and the big risk of relying on his lies and secrets, but did it anyway.
It wouldn’t make any difference to me whether my husband’s AP intended to hurt me or not, she knew that what she was doing would hurt me, she knew the outcome would be the same, yet still she carried on doing it. She didn’t care enough about the hurt she was potentially helping to inflict on other people to stop doing it. She only cared about what made her feel good and what she wanted.
She didn’t want to intentionally hurt me, that wasn’t her motive, but she knew that the outcome of what she was doing and pursuing would devastate me and our children and still did it.
My husband knowingly participating in secret behaviour that he knew would devastate me and saying he didn’t want to hurt me was what he told himself to feel better about his behaviour. It just minimised the “badness” of what he was doing in his head. In his head if he didn’t want to hurt me, then despite his affair he wasn’t that bad a person. If he knew it would shatter me and did it anyway, “I didn’t mean to hurt you.” made no difference to me whatsoever.
Just don’t be an accomplice, if the shit hits the fan what either of you intended really won’t matter.
And re him, you’re right, in that scenario I can guarantee you he’ll dump whatever he needs to in order to save what he actually wants, and if it’s his wife, he’ll cut and run, whatever he tells you you mean to him. Unless of course he gets scared that if he upsets you, you’ll be angry and might contact his wife, in which case he’ll slowly go cold and distant on you and try to make you end it instead of him, because you’ll hopefully get fed up (my husband’s cowardly tactic). Either way, you’ll no longer be his “saviour” or the “one he really loves” or “the only one who makes him happy” or whatever other bullshit you’ve been told any more, you’ll just be his awkward problem that he needs to make go away. You might not believe that now, but ninety-nine times out of a hundred it’s the outcome for the OW once the wife finds out.
The fact that many of you in this situation are are here on this thread and reading the kind of things you post, shows how much you are trying to turn yourselves around and I genuinely am not judging you, you’re doing the right thing.
I applaud all of you for doing that when you’ve obviously had your heads turned by selfish men and doing the right thing is extremely difficult.

mylittledoggie · 11/08/2024 10:22

Not been on in a while. Not texts in weeks but it's absolutely awful I'm not getting over it at all! Just want to stop feeling like this.

HappyLittleNarwhal · 11/08/2024 10:26

It's funny he @mylittledoggie

Everyone says no contact is the only cure. I don't think it makes much difference at all really.

mylittledoggie · 11/08/2024 10:45

To be fair I think I'm slightly more settled than when we were in touch. If I could completely remove him from my life I feel like then it would be fine and I'd get over it eventually.. but I can't do that. I'm worried I'm going to feel like this forever!

HappyLittleNarwhal · 11/08/2024 10:54

Actually you're right, I am much more settled without the contact. I've muted him on all the socials so don't need to see what he posts either which helps.

I sometimes have a sneaky peek but I'm in control of that.

HappyLittleNarwhal · 11/08/2024 11:03

Actually I have gamified it slightly 😂 and have challenged myself never to look at his stories, while he looks at all of mine.

I've decided that rather than block him I'm going to let him watch me be fucking awesome 😁

LAMLC2011 · 12/08/2024 08:58

HappyLittleNarwhal · 11/08/2024 10:54

Actually you're right, I am much more settled without the contact. I've muted him on all the socials so don't need to see what he posts either which helps.

I sometimes have a sneaky peek but I'm in control of that.

This is exactly where I'm at, muted him, not watching any of his stories but taking a peek at his profile every now and again. He watches most of my stories and did comment on one of my posts (not stories), which I ignored.
I'm getting better. Still thinking of him but not as often. It's 4 months no messages now for me.

mylittledoggie · 12/08/2024 12:32

How long did it take to think about him less @LAMLC2011?

lovelymango · 12/08/2024 18:09

I’m on holiday now for two weeks so he better not message me. If he does I won’t answer

HappyLittleNarwhal · 12/08/2024 21:03

I almost just had to text and ask him something but really didn't want to.

Spent aaages googling and found the answer instead.

This is progress my friends.

sausawyee · 13/08/2024 23:39

mylittledoggie · 11/08/2024 10:22

Not been on in a while. Not texts in weeks but it's absolutely awful I'm not getting over it at all! Just want to stop feeling like this.

You will. Stay strong.

LAMLC2011 · 14/08/2024 14:00

mylittledoggie · 12/08/2024 12:32

How long did it take to think about him less @LAMLC2011?

Sorry only just seen this. A few weeks. I still think of him but it'll be a couple times a day rather than all day.
I'm at about 17 weeks now and the urge to message him has gone...if he messaged me it would be a test though!

ILoveSleeping · 15/08/2024 11:04

Been a long time lurker on this thread and now I really need to let this out to someone.
We work together, both have partners and children and are in unhappy relationships. It's been going on since December.
He couldn't get enough of me, texting every day exchanging pictures and videos, finding me in a quiet corner at work to flirt with me and alluding to having strong feelings for me.
^ That's the context.
The past month or so he's gone very quiet, at first I put it down to busy life and didn't think much of it but recently I've noticed he's become very flirty and close with another girl in the workplace, and from what other people have mentioned about the way they behave I have strong reason to believe he's moved on to her...
I'm struggling big time to be honest. I did have feelings for him and now I feel really angry and hurt. I have to pretend like I don't care, I've questioned him about how distant he's been and all he says is 'he hasn't done anything and everything is fine'. We've gone from speaking daily to nothing for almost a month with no reason but ok...
I don't know what to do, I don't have concrete proof he's moved onto her but I can just tell!
I know this is the kick up the back side I need to work on my relationship and I really do want to because I know what I'm doing is wrong... but I can't just switch my feelings off!

HappyLittleNarwhal · 15/08/2024 11:51

Welcome to the club @ILoveSleeping

It sucks and it's really hard. I'm sorry. You just have to steel yourself to not care, not show any signs of caring, and don't let him back in.

He's a serial 'my wife doesn't understand me' type, it sounds like, living off the adrenaline he gets from getting various women all riled up.

ILoveSleeping · 15/08/2024 12:22

HappyLittleNarwhal · 15/08/2024 11:51

Welcome to the club @ILoveSleeping

It sucks and it's really hard. I'm sorry. You just have to steel yourself to not care, not show any signs of caring, and don't let him back in.

He's a serial 'my wife doesn't understand me' type, it sounds like, living off the adrenaline he gets from getting various women all riled up.

Yes, 100% he feeds on attention so I think he's found it elsewhere which is more exciting for him clearly. I won't be letting him back in I'm done with feeling like this, wondering when the next time he decides to ignore me will come.

Sapphireroseisland · 15/08/2024 12:34

It gets easier. I still think of my ex, but not the way I used to. He used to always be there in my head, if I was busy he was on the edges of my mind like he was there in the room with me. He lied to me horrifically and one day everything came out and it was over, I never saw him again. We’d spent three years in each others pockets. I was left without much explanation, I needed answers to some big questions. We text back and forth and even 8 months down the line I was still texting and looking for those answers. One day I just sent a final message. I said that he wasn’t who I had thought he was and that from this day forward my commitment to him and to trying to understand him, was fully over. I got a response that not everthing is black and white and that what he did didn’t mean he doesn’t love me more than anything. It was just words. I realised with him, that a lot was just words. I never responded and we’ve never communicated since. He’s tried to get to me through other people, saying stuff to imply how special I am to him- words. He’s a porn obsessed, other women obsessed, lying, gaslighting abuser. As time passed, it’s now been about 7 months since my last communication with him, I no longer feel the urge to communicate with him, there is no temptation now- it’s a dead end. I find that my biggest dilemma would be if he ever did reach out genuinely providing the answers I was looking for- and my sincere hope is that he never ever does. You have to make a decision to think of a future without him, where nothing he has to say is relevant anymore.

Frith2013 · 15/08/2024 12:47

Thinking about him a lot today. I think it must be hormonal.

He's still blocked on everything.

@ILoveSleeping he doesn't sound like a nice man.

HappyLittleNarwhal · 15/08/2024 15:43

Oh yeah the hormones are killer. It usually takes me a few days every month to realise why I'm suddenly struggling again out of nowhere...

namechangeforthis5 · 16/08/2024 12:10

I’ve blocked him. I’m on holiday and totally not thinking about him and I just don’t want to risk it

Inawe81 · 16/08/2024 22:35

I have had a toxic situationship get back in touch with me after 5 months of nothing. I have left him on read, that was 5 days ago. I'm proud of myself !

TheMagicDeckchair · 17/08/2024 00:18

Inawe81 · 16/08/2024 22:35

I have had a toxic situationship get back in touch with me after 5 months of nothing. I have left him on read, that was 5 days ago. I'm proud of myself !

Well done! So proud of you, and great work for getting yourself free of a toxic relationship.

IOnlyNeedTheSilence · 17/08/2024 16:31

Am actually in awe @Inawe81 😁😁

Mine liked my Insta story earlier and I had a great reply ready but am not sending it. Go me. So cringe.

Inawe81 · 17/08/2024 17:56

@IOnlyNeedTheSilence aw thank you. I'm having a bit of a wobble today, but got through it. I've deleted his number so I can't contact him. It's pathetic but somehow I want him to reach out again

Sapphireroseisland · 17/08/2024 23:28

I promise that all of this will at some point go away, even if I wouldn’t have believed it about my situation for a good year after our break up. It gives you time to reflect on who he really was as a person, and even if you loved and fancied him more than you ever thought you could feel for someone, as in my case, time will heal your broken heart

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