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Am I being unreasonable not to help financially?

135 replies

deb45 · 30/05/2024 16:53

Me and my husband have very different attitudes about money. I like to be stable financially and work hard to do so. I work and run a household with children (not his) and am now debt free but I don’t buy what I can’t afford and pay all bills on time as I don't like owing money. My husband works part time and lives off the generosity of others which I find annoying. Now his old car is falling apart and he really needs a new one and has asked me for financial help to do so but I don’t want to take on any more payments/outgoings or risk my credit rating. In an ideal world he’d work more hours but he doesn’t want to! He’s said that because I’m his wife I should help him but it’s left me feeling crap. I used to want to give him the world but now I feel tired and resentful

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RoseMarigoldViolet · 31/05/2024 08:47

Say no. You can’t afford it.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 31/05/2024 08:54

deb45 · 30/05/2024 17:07

I'm very aware he's a freeloader but I don't know why I feel so guilty for not wanting to help him out. I used to but now Im working more hours I'm become more selfish and less willing to help

Because you're a kind caring person and men like him can smell women like you (and me a mile off

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 31/05/2024 08:55

deb45 · 30/05/2024 17:13

I don't have any assets, I rent my property but I pay my bills and have a good credit rating and an income I can just manage on for now

I do think you should divorce him even if you want to keep him on as a bf he's just a financial liability being married to him will impact your credit score

deb45 · 31/05/2024 13:24

I'm not sure of financial implications as we live separate lives and don't share anything financial because I'm not prepared to help him anymore if he can't help himself. We've been married six years and meet up for a few hours two or three times a week

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Elieza · 31/05/2024 13:53

Can you join a club or organisation that meets up two or three times a week so you can feel safe in their company and gradually see him less.

It only takes a couple of years to get divorced and if no kids or assets it can be done cheaply.

If you did a siesta turn agreement now I think that protects you against things that you may be held responsible for. Eg joint names on the mortgage if he gambles and the debt men look to recoup the money and fur e the sake of the house etc.

You need confidence and friends. Then leave him. He's not helping you.

MyWhoHa · 31/05/2024 14:02

The more you post, the worse this situation is. You are married in name only, you do not have any semblance of a proper marriage with this man. Why stay married to him?

Myblindsaredown · 31/05/2024 14:05

deb45 · 31/05/2024 13:24

I'm not sure of financial implications as we live separate lives and don't share anything financial because I'm not prepared to help him anymore if he can't help himself. We've been married six years and meet up for a few hours two or three times a week

Are you intimate, or do you just meet up for a short period and talk?

deb45 · 31/05/2024 14:09

Am worried about going into too much detail in case someone recognises me

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AllEars112232 · 31/05/2024 14:27

deb45 · 31/05/2024 13:24

I'm not sure of financial implications as we live separate lives and don't share anything financial because I'm not prepared to help him anymore if he can't help himself. We've been married six years and meet up for a few hours two or three times a week

Do you have a pension or savings? In the energy of your death, he could be entitled to them because you are married.
Wouldn't you prefer any money goes to your children?

CannotWaitToBeFree · 31/05/2024 14:32

You sound like your separated but still legally married. You need to apply for the divorce, you can do that online, its straight forward. Then you need to see a solicitor for childcare arrangements as an agreement, plus financial clean break order. If you have no assests, it should be fairly straightforward. Dont bury your head in tge sand here. If you do nothing, he has claims on your income/pensions/savings. Atm hes a liability as he could rack up debts which will count as marital debts. You can be free of this. Whats stopping you?

Myblindsaredown · 31/05/2024 14:34

deb45 · 31/05/2024 14:09

Am worried about going into too much detail in case someone recognises me

I’m going to take that as a no, so basically you’re not intimate, spend a couple of hours together a couple of times a week, and that’s it, he’s hiv, sleeps with men, and you don’t live together or have any joint finances.

do you just like the idea of being married?

deb45 · 31/05/2024 14:36

CannotWaitToBeFree · 31/05/2024 14:32

You sound like your separated but still legally married. You need to apply for the divorce, you can do that online, its straight forward. Then you need to see a solicitor for childcare arrangements as an agreement, plus financial clean break order. If you have no assests, it should be fairly straightforward. Dont bury your head in tge sand here. If you do nothing, he has claims on your income/pensions/savings. Atm hes a liability as he could rack up debts which will count as marital debts. You can be free of this. Whats stopping you?

I don't have any pensions or savings or investments and nothing he can claim or inherit (unless I won the lottery!) Ironically he has a potential inheritance at some time in the future but I wouldn't expect to benefit from it or want to as I wouldn't feel entitled because of our living arrangements

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CannotWaitToBeFree · 31/05/2024 14:38

So divorce him, cut him free and then, once all thats sorted, start to put into a pension etc. you can do this, its really not that difficult

deb45 · 31/05/2024 14:46

We are very much intimate yes

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/05/2024 14:48

you do have a pension through work, everyone has to.

unless you are self employed ?

deb45 · 31/05/2024 15:04

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/05/2024 14:48

you do have a pension through work, everyone has to.

unless you are self employed ?

I'm self employed and have not planned for the future

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Myblindsaredown · 31/05/2024 15:14

deb45 · 31/05/2024 14:46

We are very much intimate yes

I have no words.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/05/2024 15:26

well you really ought to be throwing money into a private pension then.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/05/2024 15:28

can you afford to live on the state pension and pay rent too ?

CannotWaitToBeFree · 31/05/2024 15:31

But if your intimate, is he sleeping with other men when not with you?

Freeme31 · 31/05/2024 15:48

If he gets into debt it will be your debt too if your married - he could rake up £0000's & court would come looking for you to repay it. doesn't sound like much of a marriage- you can do a divorce on line - think you should look into this

deb45 · 31/05/2024 16:35

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/05/2024 15:28

can you afford to live on the state pension and pay rent too ?

No but that's too many years away to worry about now tbh when I have too many other things to worry about!

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deb45 · 31/05/2024 16:36

CannotWaitToBeFree · 31/05/2024 15:31

But if your intimate, is he sleeping with other men when not with you?

I've no idea, I don't ask him

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/05/2024 16:44

well it's fortunate you won't be helping your husband towards a car then as you need to prioritise your future.

I reckon you are aged 40ish as you say you have grown up children.

PaminaMozart · 31/05/2024 17:19

deb45 · 31/05/2024 15:04

I'm self employed and have not planned for the future

You are sleepwalking through your life!

Why?

Did the Mary Oliver quote in my previous post resonate with you at all?

Why are you wasting your one and only precious life on this scoundrel?