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Caught boyfriend masturbating

139 replies

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 18:21

Hi , my boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years. He's always acted very sexually closed off. He said I was too risky and a exhibitionist. I let him know I was open to everything except porn , that's a hard boundry for me . He told me he didn't indulge in that , I've caught him watching porn multiple times knowing it was my boundary that shouldn't be broken.ive forgiven him and were trying to move on from that but that being said he also states he never mastubates. Now today I've caught him masturbating. I suppose what I'm really upset about is he pretends and lies and says he doesn't do these things but does. Also too I'm sexually open ill do almost anything so why lie to me why masturbate and lie to me, we have decent amount of sex and its great so am I not enough ? If I openly express to you I like to see you masturbate why lie to me .I was also told by him he didn't want me sexually pleasing myself with my toys as it makes him feel inadequate..Why not share it with me? Why can he and i cant ..Someone please enlighten me

OP posts:
Whatsitcalled38 · 01/05/2024 19:36

Jesus I'd feel suffocated in this.

Why do people think they have a right to tell their partner they're not allowed to masturbate. From either of your sides. Masturbation is a personal thing, it's not about your relationship and nobody has a right to control it. Including porn use. Unless you can report it to the police its none of your business.

I hate people thinking they can control somebody's body just becusse they're dating or married.

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:36

kkloo · 01/05/2024 19:33

You need to drop the sneaking and lying about it angle.
When you discovered that he did in fact masturbate you shouldn't have treated it like it was a massive betrayal or deception.

I haven't treated it like anything we haven't even discussed it . The lying is a betrayal though and when he comes at me because I walked in on it and didn't say a word because he knew he lied then what?

OP posts:
Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:37

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:36

I haven't treated it like anything we haven't even discussed it . The lying is a betrayal though and when he comes at me because I walked in on it and didn't say a word because he knew he lied then what?

Or how he dictates I can't cause it makes him feel small but he can ?

OP posts:
Whatsitcalled38 · 01/05/2024 19:40

He's not very sexually active in private. He masturbates. At an undetermined frequency. Still not sex though.

He lies beucase it's clearly a big deal.

If I "caught" DP wanking I'd either say "sorry, enjoy yourself" or "fancy some company" depending on how I felt. It would be a complete non event and would require no further discussion.

category12 · 01/05/2024 19:41

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:36

I haven't treated it like anything we haven't even discussed it . The lying is a betrayal though and when he comes at me because I walked in on it and didn't say a word because he knew he lied then what?

You're not making any sense - you've forgiven him multiple times, yet you don't discuss the issue?

No wonder he keeps doing it.

letmeeatcrisps · 01/05/2024 19:42

sorry OP that all these responses are crap and totally missing the point of your post. If he lies to you regularly and confidently then of course you would have an issue with that. Lies multiply.

telling you he doesn’t want you using toys, then lying about his own solo sexual activity is controlling and sounds like he’s seeking an imbalance of power where you are reliant on him for sexual satisfaction, but he is not reliant on you

yes he sounds like a narcissist. No amount of communicating with someone like that can help them treat you better or with more humanity. Lundy Bancroft has a book called should I stay or should I go

@everyone who’s jumped in to defend him - since when is shame / guilt a valid reason to lie to your partner??? The fact that most men masturbate / look at porn makes it a huge red flag to lie to your intimate partner about it. Not to mention shaming OP for being open about her sexual desire. he won’t change, his views on sex are hardcoded and likely one-sided and misogynistic

good luck OP you’re better than this x

Whatsitcalled38 · 01/05/2024 19:43

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:37

Or how he dictates I can't cause it makes him feel small but he can ?

You can masturbate. He can masturbate. No further discussion required.

Cas112 · 01/05/2024 19:45

OP you can't stop him masturbating 😂

kkloo · 01/05/2024 19:50

letmeeatcrisps · 01/05/2024 19:42

sorry OP that all these responses are crap and totally missing the point of your post. If he lies to you regularly and confidently then of course you would have an issue with that. Lies multiply.

telling you he doesn’t want you using toys, then lying about his own solo sexual activity is controlling and sounds like he’s seeking an imbalance of power where you are reliant on him for sexual satisfaction, but he is not reliant on you

yes he sounds like a narcissist. No amount of communicating with someone like that can help them treat you better or with more humanity. Lundy Bancroft has a book called should I stay or should I go

@everyone who’s jumped in to defend him - since when is shame / guilt a valid reason to lie to your partner??? The fact that most men masturbate / look at porn makes it a huge red flag to lie to your intimate partner about it. Not to mention shaming OP for being open about her sexual desire. he won’t change, his views on sex are hardcoded and likely one-sided and misogynistic

good luck OP you’re better than this x

We're not missing the point.
I think a lot of us just don't think this would be considered 'lying' because it's something that people are allowed to keep private if they wish.

No he doesn't sound like a narcissist 😂 Hypocritical sure, but there's nothing that makes him sound like a narcissist.

kkloo · 01/05/2024 19:51

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:36

I haven't treated it like anything we haven't even discussed it . The lying is a betrayal though and when he comes at me because I walked in on it and didn't say a word because he knew he lied then what?

What do you mean that he comes at you because you walked in on it? He complained that you walked in?

StopStartStop · 01/05/2024 19:54

. I love how people replying are ignoring the subject at hand which is why he lies but then criticizes me
It isn't about criticism of you, it's about raising your awareness of your own position. To some other people, you seem to be controlling and suffering from sexual hang-ups that are affecting your relationship. It might be that you have put your boyfriend in a position where he feels he has to lie. Also, you 'caught' him masturbating - it's his body, he's entitled to pleasure from it. Don't you masturbate?

Inspireme2 · 01/05/2024 19:58

Your trying to say your sexually open but have a issue with him master batting and possibly watching porn.
Sexually conservative, well as we grow and change or habits 😄 likes, what floats our boat changes.
He "lied" to you about this.
So what maybe he enjoys is that your grief is not worth mentioning.
I feel your trying to be more sexually open comment implies your more dominant?
I suppose we all don't get it?
I do, leave the poor bugger to enjoy himself and porn or no porn give him a dairy or leave him alone?.
Poor bugger must need his helping hand lol.

Toastiecroissant · 01/05/2024 19:59

You can’t inflict your boundaries on other people
just because porn is your boundary doesn’t mean it’s his. You can choose if that’s ok with you or not but you can’t force a boundary on him.
sounds like he’s also dictating to you though
and he’s a liar…
this issue seems symptomatic of bigger issues really

Inspireme2 · 01/05/2024 20:04

takemeawayagain · 01/05/2024 19:34

No one 'has' to lie, he's not 5 years old he's a fucking grown man. He didn't have to hide having a wank, the OP was fine with it - but he'd already lied about it.

It doesn't sound like you're compatible at all OP, he's a liar and has weird ideas about sex as well as low self esteem if he's threatened by your toys. I've no idea why people are taking his side, I honestly think they just like an argument. I'd say just end it, he's already broken your boundaries and what's the point of having boundaries if you don't enforce them? He just sounds pathetic and a bit of a dick.

Edited

He has a right to pleasure himself and how he chooses too.
Who shares every detail of their sexual pleasures or desires with a partner.
He's his own person.
Her ego is hurt but he's a possible narc.
Ummm ok.

Pinkbonbon · 01/05/2024 20:06

Leave.him.

He I'd trying to paint you ad sexually immoral so that he can devalue you and treat you like shit (using porn and telling lies to you for a start).

He doesn't see you as a person. He sees you as an object for his use.

Any man telling you you aren't allowed to have a wank as he feel inadequate to.your.friggin.hand. is a fucking weirdo.

He hates women. Bet on it.

Run.

Ilovegoldies · 01/05/2024 20:07

Ladyprehensile · 01/05/2024 18:32

If porn is a boundary for you, (speaking from my experience years ago, it would be for me) and you are particularly upset about his lying in connection with that, surely it’s enough to dump him, so do it!

He’s allowed to pleasure himself, it’s natural, so really it boils down to his lying about it. (Maybe he’s embarrassed about admitting to it?) If the lies really bother you, DUMP HIM!

Job done!

Just to clarify what others have said. A boundary is about YOU.
For example if my boundary is that I don't want my partner to smoke and he does, I don't tell him to stop. I have to decide whether to stay.

Roundandroundthegard3n · 01/05/2024 20:09

Truckerbabe · 01/05/2024 19:18

It's not control I let him know Second date in I wasn't OK with pornand he chose to continue to pursue me and lie about his usage so no I'm open but I have boundaries of what I'm OK with and not just like some are OK with their other half sleeping with someone else and some are not... I love how people replying are ignoring the subject at hand which is why he lies but then criticizes me

You should have broken up with him the first time he crossed your boundary then.

Pinkbonbon · 01/05/2024 20:09

Toastiecroissant · 01/05/2024 19:59

You can’t inflict your boundaries on other people
just because porn is your boundary doesn’t mean it’s his. You can choose if that’s ok with you or not but you can’t force a boundary on him.
sounds like he’s also dictating to you though
and he’s a liar…
this issue seems symptomatic of bigger issues really

This isn't relevant as he promised her he wouldn't use porn.

If he had said 'ill use porn if I want' then fine. Op could have left him if that didn't work for her.

But making false promises and lying to your partner is not ok. The boundary he's broken is pretty universal. It's not about porn, it's about lying.

savethatkitty · 01/05/2024 20:15

How exactly have you 'caught' him watching porn? Does he pull out his phone in bed next to you or is he discreet? I know you said it was a boundary for you, but it sounds like he's trying to be respectful. In my opinion, I don't think you can really dictate what a person does or doesn't watch when they are not with you. All blokes masturbate, anyone who says they don't is lying. It's not a reflection on you. But yes, the lying is frustrating & unnecessary.

Deadringer · 01/05/2024 20:25

There seems to be a weird dynamic between you. He tells you that he doesn't like porn, doesn't masturbate ( both of which he is lying about) and doesn't want you using toys on yourself. You think he is closed off about sex, he thinks you are too open. None of it sounds like much fun tbh, maybe it's time to call it quits.

Churchview · 01/05/2024 20:37

I love how people replying are ignoring the subject at hand.

Sorry, but that is funny.

VikingLady · 01/05/2024 20:42

It's not what he was doing that's the issue here, it's the lying and crossing an agreed upon hard boundary.

Is he sorry? I doubt it if it's happened multiple times (the porn thing). He will not change that, ever. You're still in the reasonably early stages of a relationship when you'd expect him to be trying to impress you, so if he's already routinely disregarding your boundaries and lying to your face, it won't improve.

Cosycover · 01/05/2024 20:44

What he watches and where he touches himself is up to him.

This is so controlling.

Looneytune253 · 01/05/2024 20:59

You're ok to have a 'hard boundary' with porn for YOU!! This doesn't apply to him though. That's his business and he can also wank when he wants. The fact you ask him about it and he lies is possibly due to your attitude towards it. It's none of your business what he does when he's alone.

GingerPirate · 01/05/2024 21:05

And?
🙄😂

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