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Elderly mother slap in the face

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BollockstoThis1 · 18/04/2024 14:54

Elderly DM and niece are close as sis insisted she had pnd for first 5 years of nieces life (which coincided with my twos DC’s birth). As niece was at my mums being looked after practically every day of her life for the first 5 years. My mother was busy and had no time or interest in me or my family.

Fast forward to now my niece has stepped up her visiting again now she has left Uni and DM is in her early 80’s. Any recent gifts I have given my DM over the last few years have been relegated to the bottom of her stairs around the corner on the carpet. No photos of me or my DC’s now older teens are in my mothers living room (my DD hates her photo taken so no recent photos of us all). I asked DM about this recently and she said they have grown up and they have gone now. Yet niece is older than both my two but the photos of her are perhaps more recent. Their is a photo of my DB, my sis and several of my niece (including one with her dogs). Alongside an assortment of nieces tat presents on display with nanna or grandma on.

Just before Mothers day I stupidly naively asked my mother if she wanted to go out for lunch. I was told she would let me know nearer the time and see how she felt on the day (yet she is in good health but sometimes uses anxiety as an excuse with me). Then she said she wouldn’t bother a day or so beforehand. But on the day she contacted me to say she had been out for a coffee and a scone with sis and niece it was a last minute thing, she didn’t know anything about it as it was a nice surprise etc. Basically rubbing my nose in it.

It doesn’t matter what I try to do or whether I give my DM notice or leave it to the last min the response is the same and I am given a clear message that at best I am last reserve. It was her birthday last week and I was working in the run up to her birthday but I offered to come round and see her on her birthday or take her out for lunch on the day if she was free. A long delay followed then guess what my niece had supposedly already asked her to go out for lunch on the day of her birthday but she was just waiting to check with her boyfriend that he was definitely free and he hadn’t planned anything so that was why my mum delayed responding to me. My mum said she didn’t know where they were going or what time she would be back but she would phone me (expecting me to put my day on hold) and let me know when they were back. My niece has form for taking the pee if my mum is visiting us which is rare niece will call or visit before so my mum will be very late. Or if she knows I am visiting my DM, my niece will deliberately take my mum out in the car or round to hers so I can’t visit etc.

My invitations are casual and genuine because I want to spend time with my mum but these are more on my terms as I have been knocked back so many times. I am mad at myself for going back for more and keep hoping for a different outcome. Mad at my niece for being manipulative and mad at my mum for keeping on putting the boot in and being suckered in by my niece. But I guess my DM is enjoying playing us off against each other and only doing that because I let her.

Well done if you got to the end of this.

Any advice? I have tried speaking to my mum in the past many times but she always turns it round to I am bitter, I am jealous, she didn’t know I felt like that, she didn’t realise, it wasn’t her fault she didn’t mean anything by it and thought I might say that or think that.

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5128gap · 09/07/2024 19:12

I'm sorry OP, but your post makes it sound like you're in the wrong here. You are sceptical of your sister's PND and your mums anxiety, without giving any evidence to support they may not be genuine. You call your neice manipulative when your own words describe only a granddaughter behaving in a loving way to the grandma who part raised her. You call her gifts 'tat' and are upset there are photos of her, while admitting your own child doesnt like photos. You accuse your mum of rubbing your nose in her outing, but if I were her I'd have told you from fear you'd think I'd hidden it if I'd kept quiet. You are competing with your neice for your mums attention when you're all one family and there should be a role for you all.
I understand there may be a back story you've not shared that's resulted in your current attitude, and if there is, its clearly harmed you, because you do come as quite vindictive in your post, and thats probably not the real you at all. So if the people in your life are making you that way, I think you'd be far better off keeping your distance.

Poolstream · 09/07/2024 19:26

BollockstoThis1 · 08/07/2024 20:57

@Cesarina I’ve no idea DN has always been the favourite. But fully imagine this is the case I have been gradually sidelined more and more then she and they will feel justified rather than feeling like they have screwed me over when the time comes. When my dad died I felt I had to make more of an effort to look after and look out for DM. But I was gradually deliberately edged out more and more it was like DM was trying to hurt me as much as poss but each time it was excuses for her behaviour and situations she didn’t know couldn’t help it etc (far too many things to mention here).

She is quietly annoyed and upset that I am only calling or visiting once a week as she will send a Tiktok out of the blue or the odd message whereas previously it was me doing all the contact. She has even visited me twice recently out of the blue. But can imagine her saying no I haven’t heard from her but I think she is upset with me but I’ve not done anything so I have no idea why. The photos will be well its just because I see more of them and I didn’t ask for them etc. I haven’t even commented on them. DM is in her early 80’s and lives locally so contact once a week is a heck of a lot less than it was and a heck of a lot less than siblings and niece visit.

My df is late 80’s now.
I found that after 85 old age seemed to catch up v. quickly.

Your dm will be looking to you for help in a few years.
Prepare to be emotionally blackmailed. Because of course ( in your dm’s eyes) your dc will be adults and you will be available whereas dn will be too busy.

My df always led the life he wanted. Never thought twice about picking his friends over his dc and dgc.
Now he only wants his ‘own dc’ apparently.
He’s amazed and disappointed that we don’t have him to live with us.

BollockstoThis1 · 09/07/2024 19:49

5128gap · 09/07/2024 19:12

I'm sorry OP, but your post makes it sound like you're in the wrong here. You are sceptical of your sister's PND and your mums anxiety, without giving any evidence to support they may not be genuine. You call your neice manipulative when your own words describe only a granddaughter behaving in a loving way to the grandma who part raised her. You call her gifts 'tat' and are upset there are photos of her, while admitting your own child doesnt like photos. You accuse your mum of rubbing your nose in her outing, but if I were her I'd have told you from fear you'd think I'd hidden it if I'd kept quiet. You are competing with your neice for your mums attention when you're all one family and there should be a role for you all.
I understand there may be a back story you've not shared that's resulted in your current attitude, and if there is, its clearly harmed you, because you do come as quite vindictive in your post, and thats probably not the real you at all. So if the people in your life are making you that way, I think you'd be far better off keeping your distance.

Thanks. My DM was given several photos of my DC when they were younger but she has removed them from her living room saying they have gone now they have grown up. Only since she hit her mid teen years DD doesn’t like her photo taken anymore (So I have no nice recent family photos of the DC to offer DM but she hasn’t asked for a more recent photo of them or us either).

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