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Really confused about everything

158 replies

squishyarms · 17/04/2024 09:07

This is going to be long so apologies in advance!

I have been married over 10 and together with my H for 20 years. We are both early 40's. We run a business together and spend most of our time together or dealing with work issues, or talking about work. We have two DS's 11&9.

The business was DH's first but once both kids were at school full time I've been heavily involved and taken more of a front seat - customer facing. So I'm basically the face of it now. Although everyone knows he's there he does the majority of school pick ups as I'm at work the majority of the time.

During and post Covid my DH suffered with some serious depression and anxiety, which had been bubbling away for years but Covid, a family bereavement and a house move exacerbated everything and we were in a total mess. I was living on eggshells, kids were nervous around him and living on screens because I was always at work and he was often in bed. I finally went with him to the GP and he was given the meds he needed and started to recover. at this point I felt like a carer more than a partner.

I did a terrible thing when he was at rock bottom. I met someone and fell in love with them. They were like a ray of sunshine in my stressful miserable life and showed me what it was like to talk openly and they listened to me. Nothing physically happened but we spent hours texting and chatting at work and whilst I was out and about at cash and carry, cleaning etc. I had no idea but as my DH got better mentally - while he wasn't well he couldn't help it but he literally checked out of me and my life - he started to notice me on my phone more and making an effort with my appearance.

He confronted me one day and I admitted I had been talking to this person and that I felt like I loved them. Obviously he hit the roof, we had some horrific weeks/months. He got a ladder and a rope and took it to the bottom of the garden where we have a huge tree and threatened to hang himself, he smashed plates and cups and called me all sorts of horrible things. I almost said nothing during these times, I didn't have the right words, I wanted to end things. But he said the kids would hate me, I would ruin their lives, I would have to move out (we have a big mortgage), I wouldn't have a job, the whole community would hate me because I've cheated.

So I stopped talking to the other person, both I and they are heartbroken. But I can't do that to my children.

This has been since before Christmas and I can't move forward. DH drinks and vapes too much, but he says these are the things that calm him down from the stress I've caused him.

I'm miserable but he is right, I'd had nowhere to live, no job if I left, so we are stuck in this daily cycle of being pleasant to each other, which we are actually really good at, we do have a lot of the same values and we work together as a team for the kids. I have stopped having sex with him, I realised I was only doing it for him. I never actually felt the urge to do it, I just agreed when he wanted and although it was fine when we did it I was nearly always thinking about this other person.

Now he just gives me the ick, the vaping - he does it in bed and in the kitchen and all over the house. I can't ask him to stop as it's my fault he started. And when he's pissed and half asleep on the sofa he doesn't even know he's doing it but he picks his nose and eats it.

I don't even know what I'm asking. But I'm so miserable

OP posts:
Polkad · 24/10/2024 07:54

Of course he will lie and say she only had to ask.

Do you seriously think men who are coercively controlling and committing the crime of financial abuse admit it?

When their partners or wives have no access to money?

Of course they don't.

They lie, and lie and lie.
That is why it is now a crime and when you report it, it is taken very seriously.

Stop thinking about what he will say and thi k about what you will say to Women's aid, a solicitor and the police if necessary.

Please wake up.
This is a very bad man.
Stop listening to his lies, manipulation and pure bullshit.

squishyarms · 24/10/2024 13:51

Sending me all these links are like he's not actually listened to me the other day. He's not taken me seriously

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FFSWherearemyglasses · 24/10/2024 15:02

Please ignore his narrative OP
He is losing control of you now because you have made a decision.
What he does or says is white noise - ignore everything.
You do you, find your roar and start the rest of your life 💪🏻

Polkad · 24/10/2024 15:06

Who cares.
You can start divorce proceedings.
You do not need permission.

squishyarms · 17/11/2024 11:11

Things escalated

He was drinking more and more every night and started making threats that he was going to eliminate the man (and lots of other things I don't want to write down here) I made a connection with because he'd 'ruined his life'.

There were three nights he just went on and on calling me a fing c* etc

In the end I phoned 101 one morning and told them. Because H owns a shotgun they came round and have confiscated it. Pending further investigations.

He was completely mortified and ashamed and said he was sorry and he was desperate and he thought by acting the big tough guy I would think twice about leaving.

Things have been really pleasant at home since then (1 week) and he's talked about our finances and how I can have access to the joint account to pay all the bills for the flat etc. I thought we were getting somewhere. But last night he was drunk and angry again. I went to bed with the kids because I could tell the mood he was in. The kids were acting up - he'd taken them out and there was a bar there and he had at least 5 pints and had to phone me for a lift home. The kids had wanted to leave and way before that and were tired and hungry. When they were acting up last night he was muttering - and you think this is bad. Wait until they find out, their behaviour is only going to get worse. Good luck dealing with them in a flat, your neighbours will hate you.

I know it's just words but it's exhausting.

The tenant has been given notice though, roll on the 24th January

OP posts:
squishyarms · 17/11/2024 21:13

He's not said a word about last night. I'm not sure if he really even remembers.

OP posts:
FFSWherearemyglasses · 17/11/2024 21:20

….. He definitely remembers

Nicebloomers · 17/11/2024 22:28

FFSWherearemyglasses · 17/11/2024 21:20

….. He definitely remembers

This.

Polkad · 17/11/2024 22:54

Of course he remembers.
He is utter scum.
Your poor children, they must be so confused.
Ignore him and make your plans to get out.
He is abusing you all.

squishyarms · 18/11/2024 08:01

We have given the tenants notice so I am leaving but not until January. Thanks everyone for opening my eyes. He plays the victims so well I've been brainwashed into thinking it's true.

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SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 18/11/2024 08:09

You need to get out OP and may need support from a domestic abuse charity or similar. This situation is very bad for you and your children. Make a phone call today.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 18/11/2024 08:11

squishyarms · 18/11/2024 08:01

We have given the tenants notice so I am leaving but not until January. Thanks everyone for opening my eyes. He plays the victims so well I've been brainwashed into thinking it's true.

How can you stay until January? This man is dangerous and out of control. Go now.

FFSWherearemyglasses · 18/11/2024 08:36

Do you have access to all of your joint funds yet OP?
He is a weak man and I think for as long as you stay strong you will gain the upper hand quite easily.
Stick to your resolve, keep it civil and business like, don’t engage in his mind games.

squishyarms · 18/11/2024 09:41

FFSWherearemyglasses · 18/11/2024 08:36

Do you have access to all of your joint funds yet OP?
He is a weak man and I think for as long as you stay strong you will gain the upper hand quite easily.
Stick to your resolve, keep it civil and business like, don’t engage in his mind games.

Yes I think you are right, if I stay strong things will be ok.

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Polkad · 18/11/2024 11:29

You can do this OP.

Strong and firm.

Read up on financial abuse and coercive control, you will realise that he is committing a crime.

Any further bullshit from him, tell him that you will make a complaint to the police about his financial abuse of you for years.
And mean it.

See how he will feel about that and them coming to the door for him again.

You have the upper hand.
Don't give an inch.

We are here for you.
Keep posting.

squishyarms · 20/11/2024 07:55

Classic one this evening. He's never done anything wrong. All his reactions are normal for someone whose wife has cheated on someone and then not wanted to fix it all and make a go for it.
Apparently I make him feel guilty for his reactions to my disrespect and that is my narcissistic personality coming out.

He is such an idiot.

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CuppaTea23 · 20/11/2024 12:32

squishyarms · 20/11/2024 07:55

Classic one this evening. He's never done anything wrong. All his reactions are normal for someone whose wife has cheated on someone and then not wanted to fix it all and make a go for it.
Apparently I make him feel guilty for his reactions to my disrespect and that is my narcissistic personality coming out.

He is such an idiot.

Glad you've got the measure of him! Seems almost ridiculous when you spot all the victim narrative tactics and don't get drawn in!

squishyarms · 20/11/2024 18:33

If I say anything at all it's wrong so it's easier to just keep quiet.

He wants me to keep working at the business for the foreseeable so he better start being nice to me otherwise he can bog off.

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 20/11/2024 19:12

Have you got access to your joint account yet?

squishyarms · 20/11/2024 19:23

No. It's never the right time to ask. I will try tomorrow

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goody2shooz · 21/11/2024 05:14

@squishyarms have you gone to the bank and asked them, surely if you’re named on the joint account they can give you access?

nwsw · 21/11/2024 05:48

The situation you are in is more likely to have a profound affect on your children than taking control of your life , happiness and mental health and leaving.

So please get legal advice.

You've got this.

squishyarms · 31/01/2025 19:37

I moved out today! Kids are with me for the first few nights. Such a relief
Feels like I'm on holiday

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Hyggehogger · 31/01/2025 19:39

Oh wow! Good for you @squishyarms , what a brilliant update!
How did he take it?

goody2shooz · 31/01/2025 19:53

@squishyarms well done you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 not always easy to leave like this, especially when you have dc. Hope this will be the start of a much better life for you all. 💐