Imagine A World Without Men

[Interested2024]

What would that world really look like? I'm toying with a piece I am writing on this subject and was asking friends and family, thought I'd ask you as well.

To be honest I am not thinking so much of a world without men, as we need men and women to carry on the human race. But rather I'm contemplating a city, or a state where women and men were segregated off.

As place where women lived by choice completely separate to men, with no interaction with men at all.

To be upfront, I have a husband and an adult son both of whom I love. I can't really imagine living away from them, or never seeing them.

But if they had never existed, if I had no close male relatives I cared about - then I would actually be ok with it, I think. Or would I?

I'd miss sex a fair bit, to be honest,and physical touch with my husband genreally. If anything happened to my husband though I would not be pursuing any more sexual relationships, this is my second and last marriage, cannot be bothered with the rigmarole of dating ever again.

And women have zero sexual appeal to me, but I suppose there's always vibrators!

But sex aside, what would living in a city filled with women really be like?

There'd be no ongoing threat of rape or of murder by men. There'd be far fewer murders, almost none I suppose.

I'd imagine it would be just generally a lot safer, as women are (whether misogynists and pickmes like to admit it or not) a lot less physically violent than men. They just are. Citation - all of human history.

Would there be more arts? More of what sort of jobs and industry and less of what? What would exist that just can't in our current world - or would it just be weird and unpleasant?

Women can be abusive, and even sometimes to their kids. Would they be more or less so without men around I wonder?

What would be find to compete about without being trained to compete for male attention all our lives?

Would it be nicer? More fun? Or more boring? Men seem to have a bit of drive that women miss, like the drive to change and conquer - or is that just my imagination?

I'm genuinely asking the question and I am interested to know the answers.

[Meadowfinch]

There are very few plumbers, electricians, car mechanics or builders/roofers that are female. It's hard enough to find a competent tradesperson as it is.

I'll just stick to having my house as a partner-free zone. 🙂

[Epidote]

It would be a very similar society, with some little changes. Women are no special creatures full of light or dark.

If you build a world from scratch distopia may happen on your fiction, but now a days just separating men from women won't modify our social values overnight not even a couple of generations. We have been in this hamster wheel for so long that it has its own motion.

[LaPalmaLlama]

What would be find to compete about without being trained to compete for male attention all our lives?

Are you actually serious??

[cuckyplunt]

Well, a sunset of dominant women would step up to fill the arsehole roles I suspect.
In order to be oppressed, one needs an oppressor.

[cuckyplunt]

Subset not sunset..

[Unexpectedlysinglemum]

I think people who have been to all girls boarding schools or universities would be well placed to advise you op

[Loubelle70]

I was actually looking into this. Theres a women only community in the uk and it looks amazing. Im over men. This would be my ideal.
Btw i can do most things without a man...diy etc...however want to learn plastering.

[Unexpectedlysinglemum]

@LaPalmaLlama

What would be find to compete about without being trained to compete for male attention all our lives?

Are you actually serious??

My all girls school had plenty of competition- most friends, best at sport, funniest, best trainers, longest straightest hair, cleverest

[Interested2024]

@LaPalmaLlama

What would be find to compete about without being trained to compete for male attention all our lives?

Are you actually serious??

Being trained to compete for male attention takes up a LOT of women's time and energy. So I wonder what would we compete about instead if we had all those resources, time, energy and money freed up. It sounds like a reasonable question to me.

[Iudncuewbccgrcb]

@Meadowfinch

There are very few plumbers, electricians, car mechanics or builders/roofers that are female. It's hard enough to find a competent tradesperson as it is.

I'll just stick to having my house as a partner-free zone. 🙂

Thats not because women aren't competent and able to do it though its because its traditionally seen as a male apprenticeship and the girls are farmed off to hairdressing and childcare.

In a female society that would probably change quite rapidly.

I'm a whizz at fixing minor plumbing and electrical issues at home, I've many times thought if I had been a bloke I would be doing that as a job rather than a caring type profession.

OP I would have hated the idea in my teens and twenties but now as an almost middle aged mum of girls, doing the second shift at home with no appreciation and with growing horror at the increasingly mysoginistic society I was told in the 90s and 2000s was on its way out, and GIRL POWER.

So yes it appeals.

I'm sick of men and now my brain is not befuddled by reproductive hormones, I can see clearly how even the 'good ones' usually only managed a thinly veiled contempt for women when the chips are down.

[Loubelle70]

Tbh if i was loaded..id start up a woman only community...gated.

[Pepsimaxedout]

I hate threads like this. Imagine if you came on here writing a thread about how well the world would do without half of the human race based on their skin colour or religion. No one would entertain it.

I don't particularly ever want to live with a bloke ever again. But there is a huge difference between resenting sharing my home and segregating half of society.

[Interested2024]

@Meadowfinch

There are very few plumbers, electricians, car mechanics or builders/roofers that are female. It's hard enough to find a competent tradesperson as it is.

I'll just stick to having my house as a partner-free zone. 🙂

I wonder if more women would do those things because they had to, maybe some would join those trades because they didn't feel they had to worry about men around them - and maybe we would do trades more slowly or using differently designed tools - or do things just plain differently. I wonder what tools and buildings and designs would look like if it was just women designing them.

[Interested2024]

@Pepsimaxedout

I hate threads like this. Imagine if you came on here writing a thread about how well the world would do without half of the human race based on their skin colour or religion. No one would entertain it.

I don't particularly ever want to live with a bloke ever again. But there is a huge difference between resenting sharing my home and segregating half of society.

You appear to be replying to someone else entirely, as nothing you have said is relevant to what I posted.

But as you hate threads like these, it's great you found the time to complain 😅😂😅

[Interested2024]

@Iudncuewbccgrcb

Thats not because women aren't competent and able to do it though its because its traditionally seen as a male apprenticeship and the girls are farmed off to hairdressing and childcare.

In a female society that would probably change quite rapidly.

I'm a whizz at fixing minor plumbing and electrical issues at home, I've many times thought if I had been a bloke I would be doing that as a job rather than a caring type profession.

OP I would have hated the idea in my teens and twenties but now as an almost middle aged mum of girls, doing the second shift at home with no appreciation and with growing horror at the increasingly mysoginistic society I was told in the 90s and 2000s was on its way out, and GIRL POWER.

So yes it appeals.

I'm sick of men and now my brain is not befuddled by reproductive hormones, I can see clearly how even the 'good ones' usually only managed a thinly veiled contempt for women when the chips are down.

I do agree that as we get older and our drive to have a family decreases we see men more clearly. If anything was to happen to my husband I very definitely would NOT be looking for a replacement 😅

[LaPalmaLlama]

@Interested2024

Being trained to compete for male attention takes up a LOT of women's time and energy. So I wonder what would we compete about instead if we had all those resources, time, energy and money freed up. It sounds like a reasonable question to me.

But your implication is that women don’t compete at all at the moment other than for male attention. Otherwise you don’t need to ask the question as the answer is simply the same things that they compete in now, ie all spheres of life. The only difference might be higher participation.

I also think the idea of competition for male attention is a little outdated- my generation, I agree with you ( although not to the extent you imply). Girls who are now 16-25 are v different I’d say.

[Interested2024]

@Unexpectedlysinglemum

My all girls school had plenty of competition- most friends, best at sport, funniest, best trainers, longest straightest hair, cleverest

That's interesting actually. I have never been in an all female environment. Hence asking others for their input.

[LadyCurd]

You need to read Virginia bergin who runs the world. It a YA novel about just that situation. Is good.

[Loubelle70]

@Interested2024

I wonder if more women would do those things because they had to, maybe some would join those trades because they didn't feel they had to worry about men around them - and maybe we would do trades more slowly or using differently designed tools - or do things just plain differently. I wonder what tools and buildings and designs would look like if it was just women designing them.

Absolutely i would. I can do basic electrics but would love to do full..and gas. Years of work but im ok with that, infact i was looking at courses near me..we can do it.

[Loubelle70]

@Interested2024

That's interesting actually. I have never been in an all female environment. Hence asking others for their input.

But is that behaviour a result of the patriarchy wanting women and girls conditioned to compete with each other? The patriarchal power of women fighting over them for affections? Pick me

[ButItHasCheese]

I went to an all girls school.
Although I love all the males in my life - I can see the appeal. Just to be without the constant threat of violence, not to mention the mansplaining at work.
No doubt some knobheads would end up in power, but at least we'd be without the violence (generally)

[Interested2024]

@LaPalmaLlama

But your implication is that women don’t compete at all at the moment other than for male attention. Otherwise you don’t need to ask the question as the answer is simply the same things that they compete in now, ie all spheres of life. The only difference might be higher participation.

I also think the idea of competition for male attention is a little outdated- my generation, I agree with you ( although not to the extent you imply). Girls who are now 16-25 are v different I’d say.

No, I don't believe that is the answer. Women minus men might include very different interests and very different behaviours.

You're entitled to take that implication, of course, as I didn't stipulate "as well as all the other areas in which women currently compete against one another" - but I thought that was implied since it's implicit knowledge that women do compete against one another in many other ways than for male attention.

Still, it's good to have clarity.

[Loubelle70]

@Iudncuewbccgrcb

Thats not because women aren't competent and able to do it though its because its traditionally seen as a male apprenticeship and the girls are farmed off to hairdressing and childcare.

In a female society that would probably change quite rapidly.

I'm a whizz at fixing minor plumbing and electrical issues at home, I've many times thought if I had been a bloke I would be doing that as a job rather than a caring type profession.

OP I would have hated the idea in my teens and twenties but now as an almost middle aged mum of girls, doing the second shift at home with no appreciation and with growing horror at the increasingly mysoginistic society I was told in the 90s and 2000s was on its way out, and GIRL POWER.

So yes it appeals.

I'm sick of men and now my brain is not befuddled by reproductive hormones, I can see clearly how even the 'good ones' usually only managed a thinly veiled contempt for women when the chips are down.

I like you 🤘

[Marchintospring]

@Epidote

It would be a very similar society, with some little changes. Women are no special creatures full of light or dark.

If you build a world from scratch distopia may happen on your fiction, but now a days just separating men from women won't modify our social values overnight not even a couple of generations. We have been in this hamster wheel for so long that it has its own motion.

I disagree. I think the biggest difference between the sex’s ( after the obvious physical ones) is the complexity of females compared to males. I mean we can understand each other but men often don’t get it or you realise how simple men are a lot of the time.

That books Hags that gets recommended a lot is a good place to start research I think. I thought the idea that woman's bodies change purpose whereas mens don’t ,was well observed. Breasts for example; sexual objects, lactating baby feeders, sagging, no longer useful sexually or to feed. Men’s chests are simply younger to older versions, there’s no change of purpose.
A female only society might place more weight on the usefulness or otherwise of our bodies.

[Interested2024]

@ButItHasCheese

I went to an all girls school.
Although I love all the males in my life - I can see the appeal. Just to be without the constant threat of violence, not to mention the mansplaining at work.
No doubt some knobheads would end up in power, but at least we'd be without the violence (generally)

I take public transport a couple of days a week and honestly to have no threat of male violence - I have literally never felt threatened by a woman on public transport but have had a few incidents where men were being very threatening to those around them - would be bliss.