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Giving up on men

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 20/03/2024 16:27

I think I'm giving up on relationships/dating. After seeing someone recently who just turned out to be just like all the rest of them I've figured a lot of men, especially now, really aren't worth it. Especially when you get to my age which is early 50s. Or you're forced to look at men who are late 50s/60s, no thanks.

OP posts:
Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 20/03/2024 20:37

Alan81 · 20/03/2024 19:49

Way to tar all single 40 something males with the same brush guys! There are still perfectly normal people that exist out there, that have their own homes, good careers, and (relatively) stable mentally lol

Yes @Alan81 I’m sure you’re representative of the good guys. I keep hearing the vicar off This Country singing Good Guy by the nice guys. 🤣

And if you’re looking to snare a woman here then bore off.

OP posts:
Alan81 · 20/03/2024 20:37

"that's if I can work out how to do that"

Bit confrontational aren't you? Sorry you've been hurt by whomever hurt you but yeah, we're not all arse holes thanks

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 20/03/2024 20:38

Alan81 · 20/03/2024 20:37

"that's if I can work out how to do that"

Bit confrontational aren't you? Sorry you've been hurt by whomever hurt you but yeah, we're not all arse holes thanks

Go away.

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LordBummenbachsMagnificentBalls · 20/03/2024 20:46

I’m with you OP, I’ve been single for ten years raising my child by myself. Now own my own home, have a really great job that I love, spend my free time doing things I enjoy or seeing friends, I don’t even miss having a partner in my life, and probably wouldn’t have the time and energy for it anyway

StedeBonnet · 20/03/2024 21:01

Wouldn't bother OP. I don't think it's worth the hassle.

GabiT · 20/03/2024 23:47

Now I understand why there are twice as many men as women on OLD, it’s because we’re all giving up on men 😀.

I am in my early 40s and I recently decided to stop looking for love and a relationship. I have tried sooo hard to find someone all my adult life. I have made so many compromises. It simply didn’t work. I did have relationships but nothing with potential for long term.

The men I matched with and went on dates with were intelligent, educated, had good careers, hobbies, etc. I have never received dick photos or filthy messages. However, intelligence and education seem to make little difference to how these men act when dating. They either lied (omg the lies just drove me crazy), cheated, lovebombed me, gaslighted me or ghosted me. It’s like they all went to the same ‘school of dating’ where they learned the same tricks 😀. Or they simply weren’t emotionally available or interested in a long term relationship.

I went for dinner with a good friend last night. He is single, in his early 50s and he told me that the cliche is true, all the good men are taken. I pointed out that he is a good man but he responded that the good men who are not taken, like him, are not interested in a relationship. Another male friend (49) told me that he doesn’t want to date because dating involves effort and he just can’t be bothered to put in any effort in a relationship.

So that’s that. It’s sad. When I was growing up, in a dysfunctional family, I was incredibly sad and lost but what kept me going was the thought that one day I’ll meet someone who will meet me halfway, love me, and make me happy. I was incredibly sad to realise recently that this would not happen to me. But I also had to acknowledge that I couldn’t continue to spend my life anxious, crying after men who treat me badly, feeling rejected, driving myself crazy trying to understand why men mess me around.

Catoo · 21/03/2024 00:32

I gave up with 45+ men on OLD. Disgusting for the most part. Seem to think you should be grateful to have the attention of yet another potato head who let himself go.

The nicest most respectful messages I got are from men in their 20s and 30s who don’t see woman on OLD as ‘desperate for anything’ because meeting people online is the norm for people of their age.

Been seeing one in his 30s for a while.
Would recommend.

QueenBitch666 · 21/03/2024 00:36

Men as a species are 99.9% shite. Not worth the shit off my shoe. And the excellent thing is... We no longer need them Grin

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TheDreamOfSleep · 21/03/2024 00:39

I feel like this. Friends seem to think there's something wrong because I have been single since I was 36 and can't possibly want to be "alone" (I have children still so am not really alone, but ex-H left when they were babies). Early 40s now and I just can't see what it would bring to my life. Never dated since then and do not intend to. I am too busy, have nice friends, own a lovely house, have a good job, and just can't be bothered with it. The stories of OLD don't make me feel tempted. I can't remember the last time I met a man to whom I felt any attraction. The whole idea just seems like a lot of hassle for no real benefit and increasingly gives me the ick.

I do worry that one day, when the kids leave home, I might be lonely. But then I've felt very lonely in every relationship I've ever had and I don't when with my friends or children so I'd rather focus on them. I'm working towards early retirement and I hope I have friends who will want to go on trips then: travelling alone can be relaxing but it's nice to have company for holidays. But the idea of dating or a relationship just seems like an unwanted chore now. And as for living with a man again, never.

coxesorangepippin · 21/03/2024 00:44

Gave up men years ago unless im on holiday thats different.
^

Love this

Mmhmmn · 21/03/2024 00:50

Some people cannot bear it if you don’t conform. Their problem. They probably envy your freedom but can’t admit it.

AlTrabek · 21/03/2024 00:56

@QueenBitch666

You've been reported for unnecessary misogynistic behaviour.

Catoo · 21/03/2024 01:01

AlTrabek · 21/03/2024 00:56

@QueenBitch666

You've been reported for unnecessary misogynistic behaviour.

Eh? 🤡

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Caswallonthefox · 21/03/2024 01:51

There probably are a load of absolutely awesome men out there. But where the fuck are they?
I mean, it's not like I trip over them in the supermarket or my daily perambulation(?) Round town and they certainly don't knock on my door when I'm hermetting.
Nothing will ever convince me to do OLD because knowing my luck I'll wake up murdered one day.

BlastedPimples · 21/03/2024 02:10

"There probably are a load of absolutely awesome men out there."

No. There aren't.

dontcryformeargentina · 21/03/2024 02:55

Catoo · 21/03/2024 00:32

I gave up with 45+ men on OLD. Disgusting for the most part. Seem to think you should be grateful to have the attention of yet another potato head who let himself go.

The nicest most respectful messages I got are from men in their 20s and 30s who don’t see woman on OLD as ‘desperate for anything’ because meeting people online is the norm for people of their age.

Been seeing one in his 30s for a while.
Would recommend.

Totally agree. I'm dating younger men now too and thinking to open myself up to dating women. I was always bi curious but never had a courage to act on it before.

Brabican · 21/03/2024 03:33
Foxlover46 · 21/03/2024 03:53

I agree it's the men in their 30s who have been much nicer to chat to and date for me when poking my toe into OLD.
Men my age (49 ) and older have just been absolutely awful , they don't know what they want , they want to be players , they dress older than my dad ... this is my experience so far!
After being single for years I don't want a project either I've been a single mum I'm not looking to "care for " a needy man either !
I actually prefer being at home with the dogs watching rubbish in the evening not being asked for selfies all the time

abracadabra1980 · 21/03/2024 05:11

I'm on your page OP. Cba with any relationship now, or ever. Just me, my dog and my cat. It's bliss.

Sceptical123 · 21/03/2024 05:28

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 20/03/2024 17:15

The thing which pissed me off... you're happy to date me for the past 6 weeks, not saying anything, living and caring for your parents (after his divorce) but his instincts were right (yes this is bloody rude!) and he didn't tell me... well my instincts about him having zero sense of humour, overweight, failed businessman with one venture, he has to give up his plumber job soon as he's damaged his knee (oh dear), he still as of 4 years ago did recreational drugs, I mean I had my instincts there but I didn't say anything. In fact I was thinking of ending it soon but I've been ill and in hospital (was in today for MRI scan) so have had other things on my mind.

This weekend he was angling to see me and stay over. I haven't been well recently and had an op where I couldn't have sex for 2 weeks after it and this week is the second week, I told him this yet he was still pushing for that, sex. I think he thought I was lying about the sex. And he kept on going on about 'oh you've got a nice house, car etc, oh and did you say you'd paid off the mortgage?' - err yes I did but... what am I? Nurse with a purse or something?

It was interesting about how he kept on banging on about his ex and how she'd cheated and he couldn't believe it, saw messages on her phone - he was on fairly good terms with his ex but... his youngest DD lives with her doing A levels.

I guess if you were still talking to
him you could say - ‘so I should go against medical advice? Do you really think that little of me and my physical welfare?’

Would make him look the selfish prick he is

AfterTheWatershed · 21/03/2024 05:40

I’m feeling the same OP. It’s so depressing because there is nothing that I would like more than a fulfilling relationship. But the process of finding someone even half decent really wears you down. Just last weekend I was communicating with a potential date online and he suddenly turned aggressive when I wouldn’t instigate a WhatsApp chat. Sometimes it is actually scary although mostly it is just a struggle to find someone that can write properly. I am far from shallow but the one person that I did meet that was suitable on paper had missing/rotten teeth in person and an awful voice (Frank Spencer type twang).

Sceptical123 · 21/03/2024 05:49

I’m not excusing it IN ANY WAY - but is this the reason why OW seek affairs with unavailable men then? Ppl tell them to find someone single - but as most of you say - they’re single for a reason. How utterly depressing 😑

Sunflowergirl1 · 21/03/2024 05:59

I don't think all are like that although I'm married!

We had friends who split and male ended up single. Lovely guy, extremely good career, good dad etc. Interestingly he didn't do internet dating and stayed out of the dating field. Focussed on kids and his career which continued its stella path. Eventually met someone introduced via our social group! Almost felt like informal match making as my friend who did it judged they would be well suited and introduced them at a BBQ. They had a nice time chatting and a couple of weeks later they had a date, took slowly and are now a couple and living together. I got to know her and my friends assessment of a good match was I thought right...similar career, likes etc

I recall something similar a fair few years ago with a DH friend although wasn't matched like this one. Common theme, neither did internet dating. I do wonder if a lot of the "good" and eligible guys stay out of the cattle market of the internet, and not being rushed to have another relationship just rely of old methods if it happens?

Maybe more of the ones on the internet need to use it for a reason?

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