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Husband came out as bisexual

551 replies

TARDISmum · 19/03/2024 23:14

Been with DH 12 years and married for 6.5 years and recently told me he is bisexual.

It's just so odd.

I know it doesn't change who he is. It doesn't change what it was about him that I fell in love with but it feels like the landscape of our marriage has changed.

I want to be supportive but just don't know where to start. Where would you start with that.

OP posts:
PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 20:57

Huh @kkloo ?

Not all my partners know all my kinks, because I am perfectly capable of having enjoyable sex without spanking (or whatever).

Of course, if you want to act on a kink or fetish with someone, then you have a mutual conversation about what you both like and find common ground. But I would say the same about checking anything the first few times. Not everyone likes giving and/or receiving oral, or their balls being touched etc.

Where does your “you should know to disclose” stop?

Oblomov24 · 20/03/2024 21:01

I too am dubious. What is he even really telling you. And why. He says bi, but he's been married for 7, with you for 12. So what he's really saying is : I want to sleep with men. If he didn't want that, he had no purpose in telling you.

PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 21:02

Oblomov24 · 20/03/2024 21:01

I too am dubious. What is he even really telling you. And why. He says bi, but he's been married for 7, with you for 12. So what he's really saying is : I want to sleep with men. If he didn't want that, he had no purpose in telling you.

Oh FFS, it’s an endless bloody loop.

TARDISmum · 20/03/2024 21:04

Oblomov24 · 20/03/2024 21:01

I too am dubious. What is he even really telling you. And why. He says bi, but he's been married for 7, with you for 12. So what he's really saying is : I want to sleep with men. If he didn't want that, he had no purpose in telling you.

He literally just sat me down and said I need to tell you something.

Said he is bisexual and went on to say that he'd had these feelings since before I met him but only realised over the last year what they really meant

OP posts:
PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 21:06

OP, your relationship sounds really good and I hope he feels relief from
sharing.

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:07

PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 21:06

OP, your relationship sounds really good and I hope he feels relief from
sharing.

Really? After reading the OP's last post.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 20/03/2024 21:08

kkloo · 20/03/2024 20:46

I don't see it as mindreading though. I don't have any out there fetishes but if I did then I would know to disclose it. I have kids and I would know to disclose that because I know it's a dealbreaker for some people.

The Tory example doesn't sound silly, because I can understand that examples and analogies are just provided for the purpose of discussion.

I was raped at 16 also in part because of not understanding someones intentions and unfortunately trusting that they were just a nice person.

There is such a thing as 'common sense' or 'everyone knows' but of course that may not apply to people who are neurodiverse, but people do tend to speak in generalisations. I am ND myself

For someone who speaks about this topic a lot you can't say that for this particular issue you are not aware that it is potentially a dealbreaker. You know that it is.

You're saying if it is then they should ask because you're not going to assume that it's a dealbreaker for all straight people because that would be heterophobic....

In the same post you said that there's also a safety risk for bi women coming out to male partners due to the DV risk.......so that's a bit of heterophobia there isn't it? To fear something because part of the group may behave that way?

Again please note I don't actually think that it is heterophobic to have some fears of what might happen if you're in a relationship with a heterosexual person especially when they are based on things that can and do happen, but likewise I feel the same about some peoples fears of being in relationships with someone who is bisexual.

so that's a bit of heterophobia there isn't it?

My fear is of men, straight or bisexual. The orientation of those 90% male perpetrators wasn't given.

For someone who speaks about this topic a lot you can't say that for this particular issue you are not aware that it is potentially a dealbreaker. You know that it is.

So is whether someone voted Tory for some people. For me, someone having used a sex worker would be a dealbreaker. There are other women who don't care about that.

The question I ask is: out of all the hundreds or more possible non-STI things that are a dealbreaker for some people, why is bisexuality singled out as being the one thing that must be proactively disclosed? Not "be honest if someone asks you", but "you must tell them even if they don't ask".

Oblomov24 · 20/03/2024 21:11

@PansyPolly

Did I say something incorrect? He's told OP. With what purpose? Why? So are you saying he doesn't want to sleep with men?

kkloo · 20/03/2024 21:11

PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 20:57

Huh @kkloo ?

Not all my partners know all my kinks, because I am perfectly capable of having enjoyable sex without spanking (or whatever).

Of course, if you want to act on a kink or fetish with someone, then you have a mutual conversation about what you both like and find common ground. But I would say the same about checking anything the first few times. Not everyone likes giving and/or receiving oral, or their balls being touched etc.

Where does your “you should know to disclose” stop?

Note that I said I don't have any 'out there fetishes'. I have plenty of kinks!

Fetishes are generally something that a person needs as opposed to kinks which are something a person might like to do but they don't have to do in order to enjoy sex.

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:13

TARDISmum · 20/03/2024 21:04

He literally just sat me down and said I need to tell you something.

Said he is bisexual and went on to say that he'd had these feelings since before I met him but only realised over the last year what they really meant

I couldn't live with this. If you love him and want to stay with him then I wish you all the best.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 20/03/2024 21:13

@UnimaginableWindBird @PansyPolly Thank you both for "getting it" with Where does your “you should know to disclose” stop? and You would absolutely be within your rights to ask that question and to turn down a potential partner whose answer was off-putting.

I was starting to feel again like I'd been transported to Mars and was trying to explain Earth sexual ethics to the Ice Warriors.

TealSapphire · 20/03/2024 21:16

OK so it's the OP's fault that she didn't ask if her DH was bi.

Then it's societies fault that he couldn't be honest with his partner from the start.

Now he just comes out with an innocent FYI and that's OK it doesn't mean anything.

If OP suggested exploring this attraction to other men he'd be all over it for sure.

LovelyTheresa · 20/03/2024 21:17

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:13

I couldn't live with this. If you love him and want to stay with him then I wish you all the best.

Neither could I. It would be a deal breaker. If you like cock, it's off. That also includes trans women. I don't get as upset and angry about trans women as some people on here do, but they are biologically male so if a man is attracted to one, he is bi at the very least.

MineAgain · 20/03/2024 21:19

PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 20:57

Huh @kkloo ?

Not all my partners know all my kinks, because I am perfectly capable of having enjoyable sex without spanking (or whatever).

Of course, if you want to act on a kink or fetish with someone, then you have a mutual conversation about what you both like and find common ground. But I would say the same about checking anything the first few times. Not everyone likes giving and/or receiving oral, or their balls being touched etc.

Where does your “you should know to disclose” stop?

Being attracted to both men and women is something I’d expect the person I’m dating to let me know whilst getting to know them.

I wouldn’t continue to date a bisexual man because I want to be with a man that I know I can completely satisfy sexually. Maybe they would say I could do that, but I wouldn’t feel I could so I wouldn’t want to be in that situation. Doubting that you are making your partner happy for any reason is a miserable way to live. I also want to be with someone who is only turned on by male/female sex because that’s what I like too.

If someone doesn’t want to date me, I’d move on, not quiz them and insist their must be some sort of discrimination going on. It’s dating not employment law.

Didimum · 20/03/2024 21:20

Wooo. The biphobic bell is ringing loudly today. What an epic (and depressing) read this has been.

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:26

UnimaginableWindBird · 20/03/2024 20:54

You would absolutely be within your rights to ask that question and to turn down a potential partner whose answer was off-putting. And he would be perfectly within his rights to ask you how many men you have had sex with and to turn you down if you answer was more than five because that killed his attraction to you.

And I would consider both questions massive red flags that would put me off the person in question, so I would absolutely encourage you to keep asking those questions.

Sadly, I can't ask "are you biphobic" before dating anyone, because the answer will always be "no".

I'm old and in a long term relationship but will give our young ones some advice.

DuckDuckNo · 20/03/2024 21:29

I myself am bi and I find the constant accusations of biphobia on this thread a bit over the top. I mean, most dudes don't sit their wife down and divulge information such as this with no reason. He's going somewhere with this - it's totally okay to wonder where. And it's also totally okay not to be attracted to bi people. No one's obligated and so forth.

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:29

Didimum · 20/03/2024 21:20

Wooo. The biphobic bell is ringing loudly today. What an epic (and depressing) read this has been.

Why is it depressing that some people aren't bisexual?

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:30

DuckDuckNo · 20/03/2024 21:29

I myself am bi and I find the constant accusations of biphobia on this thread a bit over the top. I mean, most dudes don't sit their wife down and divulge information such as this with no reason. He's going somewhere with this - it's totally okay to wonder where. And it's also totally okay not to be attracted to bi people. No one's obligated and so forth.

You make such sense

Didimum · 20/03/2024 21:31

middleofthenightmediumsizedtoblerone · 20/03/2024 21:29

Why is it depressing that some people aren't bisexual?

That’s not what I said (and I think you know it, unless you’re a bit dim), but nice try.

MineAgain · 20/03/2024 21:32

Didimum · 20/03/2024 21:20

Wooo. The biphobic bell is ringing loudly today. What an epic (and depressing) read this has been.

Even if someone is bi phobic though, they’re not obliged to change their thinking and date a bisexual person. Challenging someone on problematic views like bi phobia, homophobia, racism etc should be done in many situations, but when it comes to dating and attraction, people are attracted to some things and not others. I find it very intrusive to see people asking others to justify who they will and won’t date.

I’m not from the UK and have read many negative things about my home country here. I’ll challenge the generalisations and stereotypes but if they say they’d never date someone from my country, that’s their preference. I see this as similar.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 20/03/2024 21:33

MineAgain · 20/03/2024 21:19

Being attracted to both men and women is something I’d expect the person I’m dating to let me know whilst getting to know them.

I wouldn’t continue to date a bisexual man because I want to be with a man that I know I can completely satisfy sexually. Maybe they would say I could do that, but I wouldn’t feel I could so I wouldn’t want to be in that situation. Doubting that you are making your partner happy for any reason is a miserable way to live. I also want to be with someone who is only turned on by male/female sex because that’s what I like too.

If someone doesn’t want to date me, I’d move on, not quiz them and insist their must be some sort of discrimination going on. It’s dating not employment law.

Your post is fine bar the first paragraph.

Being attracted to both men and women is something I’d expect the person I’m dating to let me know whilst getting to know them.

In Ancient Greece and Rome, sexual behaviour with both sexes was the norm. For me, it's the norm. Imagine an Ancient Roman woman saying: "Only being attracted to women is something I’d expect the person I’m dating to let me know whilst getting to know them."

I bet that seems ridiculous to a straight person. What you're suggesting is ridiculous to me.

If I'm attracted to the person I'm dating, who else I'm attracted to is irrelevant to me. If they want to have conditions (that to me are weird, but we're not all the same) about the sex of who else I'm attracted to and not shagging then that's on them and they can ask for that information because that's their conditions of dating, not mine.

PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 21:38

@kkloo

Hmmm… I think that’s a spectrum, though.

If a person literally cannot have sex unless they have, let’s say, put elaborate self tie rope on their legs, then that would need to be talked about before getting to the bedroom, to get the sexual partner’s consent in that moment.

Even then, I don’t think the fetish-holder is obliged to say “I will need this every time” that first time. Because they may be incompatible in any number of ways beside the fetish.

Opening up is a process of trust. Certain groups of people aren’t obliged to go a million miles an hour on that.

I have slept with - and short term dated - various men who didn’t know I am bi, and I am fine with that. More recently, I have been asked my sexuality by men disclosing their own - which has indeed included “straight” regardless of what a PP said about “the norm”.

Didimum · 20/03/2024 21:38

MineAgain · 20/03/2024 21:32

Even if someone is bi phobic though, they’re not obliged to change their thinking and date a bisexual person. Challenging someone on problematic views like bi phobia, homophobia, racism etc should be done in many situations, but when it comes to dating and attraction, people are attracted to some things and not others. I find it very intrusive to see people asking others to justify who they will and won’t date.

I’m not from the UK and have read many negative things about my home country here. I’ll challenge the generalisations and stereotypes but if they say they’d never date someone from my country, that’s their preference. I see this as similar.

I didn’t say they are obliged to change it, but it doesn’t mean it’s not biphobic – as you pointed out. At the end of the day it’s making sweeping assumptions about a large sector of people because they are ‘X’ characteristic, and that, in my book, isn’t OK.

PansyPolly · 20/03/2024 21:39

“I find it very intrusive to see people asking others to justify who they will and won’t date.”

To my mind, that is not what this thread has been about. Most posters commenting have emphasised personal choice, I think. But I may have missed it.

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