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I think I have done a terrible thing

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Vacumwondering · 16/03/2024 17:39

DP and I been together for 3 years. He was my childhood sweetheart and we separated late teens due to watching different things in life (education/music career).

15 years later, single, we meet back up, both have DC with other people. We fall in love, life is perfect, DC’s get along we are the perfect couple. We move fast. He moved in with me and my DC.

Then his job started to take a turn, horrible manger, unreasonable hours, terrible pay, so I tell him to quit and take some time to figure what he really wants (I earn v. Good salary so bills etc were not an issue short term) plus I love him so why not want best for your love.

Then he wanted to see his DC’s more. So we got 50/50 custody. Again for the ‘family’.

That was 8 months ago. Since he has not got another job. A couple of days here and there. I pay for everything. As the woman/mum, I do most of everything. I had to sell my car due, we had to cancel our holiday, Iv had to borrow money from family (as has he) due to financial issues.

im resentful. Have tried to discuss it but it doesn’t really work/nothing changes. And tbh I think Iv fallen out of love. We don’t have any fun anymore, it’s all just work, kids, slog, money issues, petty arguments. We haven’t really spoken in 2 days and I don’t think I really care.

He tells me he loves me all the time etc but I don’t see any of that, he will then make OTT demonstrations of love and I just can’t be doing with it.

But essentially, he doesn’t have a job, wouldn’t be able to have his DC 50/50 without me and my support, he has no home and I feel that by supporting him in these things I have kind of made my bed and it would be heartless to end it now.

Any advice?

OP posts:
Ghostgirl77 · 17/03/2024 13:44

Wow, he has skilfully manipulated you into basically being a surrogate mother to him so he can carry on being a lazy man child.

Don’t blame yourself, OP, these men are very clever when it comes to exploiting kind and caring women. Don’t fall for any more of his bullshit. Put yourself and your kids first and get rid.

user1471538283 · 17/03/2024 13:45

Well done op!

He does not come back. Whatever is going on with his DC as harsh as it sounds is not your concern. You've got your own DC to be responsible for.

He will try and come back. They always do. After all it was a lovely life for him. But no.

Theoldbird · 17/03/2024 13:47

Freakinfraser · 17/03/2024 12:16

Well I mean that’s a start. But all you’ve done is tell him to think about it. Can you really not bring yourself to end it?

yep, he will now be doing everything he can to try getting a job and tell you he's doing everything you want, what more do you want? I think its time to have that difficult conversation and say you're not happy and don't love him anymore, he can't argue with that surely? and it's the truth

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/03/2024 14:18

Have a full and frank conversation without getting acrimonious, put him on notice that he really needs to look for work in earnest and give him an opportunity to make good. Help him pull out all the stops to get a job - he's got into a rut and needs encouragement

HE'S a grown man and SHE'S not his mother.

femfemlicious · 17/03/2024 14:23

@Vacumwondering cancel the payment for his car TODAY

coxesorangepippin · 17/03/2024 14:24

Definitely change the locks

Good riddance

TheCatOnMorrisseysHead · 17/03/2024 14:25

Let me guess, back in the day he was the one who wanted the music career, was he?

Whatthefrance2024 · 17/03/2024 14:26

Give him a deadline to get a job or he needs to leave

justasking111 · 17/03/2024 14:27

Och give him back to his mummy

ClutchingOurBananas · 17/03/2024 14:27

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 17/03/2024 14:18

Have a full and frank conversation without getting acrimonious, put him on notice that he really needs to look for work in earnest and give him an opportunity to make good. Help him pull out all the stops to get a job - he's got into a rut and needs encouragement

HE'S a grown man and SHE'S not his mother.

Quite.

Why do so many posters infantilise men like this?

It’s not up to the OP to fix his problems. Nor has she caused them. Telling someone she would support him for 6 weeks while they find a new job does not make the OP responsible for this situations. Indeed, she didn’t ever agree to entirely support him he was supposed to have a payment for his unused annual leave - but he lied about that/used the leave so he didn’t have to work.

ClutchingOurBananas · 17/03/2024 14:29

It’s also absolutely OK to be ‘acrimonious’ when someone has been taking the piss out of you.

There’s no need to tiptoe around his feelings - and certainly not to make yourself responsible for them.

He’s a grown man with children he isn’t providing for.

People are allowed to be angry with him. I bet his ex is furious. The OP should be too.

KalaMush · 17/03/2024 14:47

Well done OP. Can you go round tonight and drop all his stuff off?

Gymnopedie · 17/03/2024 14:53

femfemlicious · 17/03/2024 14:23

@Vacumwondering cancel the payment for his car TODAY

And tomorrow buy yourself your own car, even just a cheap runaround to get you by for a while.

Gymnopedie · 17/03/2024 14:58

He tells me he loves me all the time etc but I don’t see any of that, he will then make OTT demonstrations of love

But all short of getting a job or paying for himself or his DCs. Y'know, something meaningful. You've got him out, don't let him back in. Whatever he promises.

Lovethistimeofyear · 17/03/2024 14:59

Aw OP this is such a rubbish situation to be in.

You need to be strong and do what’s right for you and your kids.

He is taking the absolute piss.

Ask yourself what you would have done in his circumstances?

In his shoes I would work ANYWHERE. I would do ANY JOB to be able to support my family. While off I would have taken most of the physical and mental load from you too. You gave him a way out of a bad situation in work, you supported him to see his children more. In return he has taken advantage of you.

Take control. Go out and buy yourself a car on finance. Stop paying his. He can hand it back if needed. Tell him to go back to his mums and that you won’t be financing him any longer. He will get access to benefits as a single man. Although I suspect a job will suddenly materialise when he doesn’t have you supporting him financially.

THIS is your chance to take back some self respect and build your self esteem. Staying with someone who treats you this way will only destroy it further.

NeedToChangeName · 17/03/2024 15:00

Yogatoga1 · 16/03/2024 17:51

Funny this on another thread a woman wants to give up work to spend more time with her kids.

that’s a “no brainer” and the majority of posters are telling her to go for it.

Yes, I was thinking the replies would be different if OP were male and her partner female

Newestname002 · 17/03/2024 15:01

@LiveLaughCryalot

Have you added him to your mortgage @Vacumwondering ?

Oh my - I really hope not!!

And yes - get his keys back but don't rely on him not having duplicates - after all he's shown he's not averse to taking advantage of you - get your locks/lock barrels changed ASAP. 🌹

OnlyOneAdda · 17/03/2024 15:05

Freakinfraser · 17/03/2024 12:16

Well I mean that’s a start. But all you’ve done is tell him to think about it. Can you really not bring yourself to end it?

Good first step. A lot easier to end it when he's out of the house. He just doesn't come back.

Gymnopedie · 17/03/2024 15:08

NeedToChangeName · 17/03/2024 15:00

Yes, I was thinking the replies would be different if OP were male and her partner female

Except that on the thread you're referring to:

  • The children are joint between OP and her DH. She's not asking DH to pay for someone else's children.
  • Her DH supports her thinking.
  • Childcare costs more than she earns.

Posters on that thread have pointed out drawbacks to her giving up work, but it's not the same situation at all.

Winter2020 · 17/03/2024 15:10

Good update OP,
If you still want to be with him I would tell him that he can come back when he has a (full time) job.

ZekeZeke · 17/03/2024 15:13

Vacumwondering · 17/03/2024 11:55

I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who has commented. I slept on the sofa last night as I just couldn’t bare him.

i have briefly spoken to him this morning and told him he has taken the absolute piss out of me and I want him to have a serious think about what he is going to do about it…at his mums.

Iv said im taking my DD out today In the car and will drop him on the way out. His DC not here.

He tried to say that one of his DC has a lot going on and he can’t tell me about it because I’m so stressed and that’s really sad blah, blah…deflection always.

Looking forward to lunch and feeling very little else

Get ready for the tears OP

ThisLoftyLilacShark · 17/03/2024 15:22

you were childhood sweethearts, broke up, got back together after you both started a whole family with someone else, blended the families and now you want to break up again.
in out in out shake it all about you do the hokey pokey and you turn around that’s what it’s all about

KalaMush · 17/03/2024 15:28

Gymnopedie · 17/03/2024 15:08

Except that on the thread you're referring to:

  • The children are joint between OP and her DH. She's not asking DH to pay for someone else's children.
  • Her DH supports her thinking.
  • Childcare costs more than she earns.

Posters on that thread have pointed out drawbacks to her giving up work, but it's not the same situation at all.

Edited

And also on that thread the DC are pre school age, so she will be busy doing full time childcare. Whereas the man on this thread has school age DC so his days are free.

TheFormidableMrsC · 17/03/2024 15:37

Good God, I really hope you find the strength to get rid of this leach. What an absolute waste of space. I would have zero respect for anybody who behaved like this. Don't let him deflect, get him out. You and your kids deserve better. I've been single for ten years. I'm far from lonely, have a very full life and would never allow any man anywhere near my house. I hope you won't either when you've got out of this mess. Good luck.

InlikealionOutlikeahare · 17/03/2024 16:25

Please tell me you'll be no longer paying his expenses?

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