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Stories of stingiest first dates

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frtedsbed · 29/02/2024 15:02

Just comparing experiences here at a friends ... jaw dropping stuff!

Mine asked me to transfer money for a coffee and cake after our first date which was a walk and feeding the ducks.
I thought we were going for lunch ... that was the original invite.
Another asked me to transfer money to r a takeaway having offered to pay for my child and I , as he stayed at mine every weekend. Both ended there and then !

OP posts:
BrightHarvestMoon · 29/02/2024 23:26

localnotail · 29/02/2024 22:58

Very interesting. We get people on here saying "you should pay the half... it should be equal"... but look where this gets you: I met my ex, we both had equal income, same type jobs. I was all progressive "I will pay the half, its not 19th century" type. Paid half of everything - rent, holidays, food bills. My ex was more than happy. Then, I fell pregnant. Had a baby. Still had to pay half - all the way. Because, why should I not? Had crap maternity pay, had to use my savings. Still paid half. Looking after the baby, doing most of the childcare, my career suffered a lot - still paid half. In the end, left the bastard - but, have no savings now, job suffered, financially ok but not great. Ex still thinks I should contribute half to the kids up keep, even though his career is in much better state than mine.
I would say - unless you are a heiress, go old fashioned. If anything, it will let you see how generous and kind he is. Stingy, tight fisted man is not a good life partner.

Yeah, this. ^ I might be old fashioned, I might be anti-feminist, I don't know. Call me what you like. But I would not be with a man that expected me to pay for myself on a first date that he had asked me on, and routinely expected me to pay half for everything no matter what, and split everything 50-50. (Or pay for what we had individually!)

Just pay for something sometimes, and I will pay for something sometimes. Put your fucking calculator away, and stop working out to every last penny what we both need to pay - and how we must pay for what we ate individually etc etc...

As you say, the thing is, this kind of man that instantly expects you to pay your own way from the onset, is the same type that will still expect you to pay half when you've got much less income than him - and you will probably earn less income to start with ... I know some posters will come on and say 'I earn 4X more than my husband,' but the fact is that the vast majority women will not.

And yes, they will still expect the women to pay half for everything, even when they're on crappy maternity pay/not working. Even though they get waaaay more money... Three or four times more than you in some cases.. maybe more... Then they spend on their expensive man hobbies and nights out and nice clothes and expensive tech for themselves. (Whilst never lifting a finger in the house!)

I also find this kind of man who wants a woman to pay her way - as has been said - is pretty rubbish in the sack. And also, whilst he believes in 'equality' with women paying their way, that's where it stops. He doesn't believe in equality with domestic chores, housework, washing, cooking, shopping. and childcare. No, that's women's work.

Men are pretty much almost always on much more money than women. So too right they can pay for the first date! I want a man to pay for me. Because, as I said, women - through their life - will often learn much less than men and take a big hit on their career and income when they have babies. So they need to know they've got a man that's going to be kind and generous financially. And as people have said, these will also be the same kind of man who will be genuinely loving. and caring, and kind, as well ... The tight fisted fuckers will be the ones that don't give a shit about you, and probably went to the pub when you're sick with pneumonia. (And they will be a crap shag.)

Scenicgirl · 29/02/2024 23:26

Britpop123 · 29/02/2024 15:47

probably the woman who expected me to pay and had no intention of splitting, just because I’m a man…

Tight git!
And they say chivalry is dead 😂🤣

AuroraGoddessSparkle · 29/02/2024 23:27

I went on a date with a guy I met on Guardian Soulmates I think, or Match, but definitely one of the paid sites. We met in a pub on a Sunday night. He asked me what I wanted to drink, and I said I’d like a glass of white wine. He said he’d have wine too, but wanted red. The barman told him if he brought two glasses of the house wine, the bottle was a tenner. He first of all asked the bar man exactly how much the two glasses would be on their own. Then, having calculated it was a better deal, got a bottle of red wine because that was what he was drinking.

We had a glass each. I don’t like drinking red wine much as it gets me drunk faster, and he told me that as he was driving I’d have to finish the bottle because he’d paid for it and I’d otherwise be wasting his money. I didn’t want a second glass and he made a huge deal of it. He then wanted to go onto another pub (god knows why as he wasn’t drinking anymore) and despite me saying that I wasn’t going to drink the red wine he insisted on taking the bottle with him so it could be finished off by me! When I finally managed to call it a night, he insisted on walking me home even though I wanted to get a taxi. He walked a bit of the my way home and then about 15 minutes from my house decided it was too far and out of his way to walk, so he left me to walk the rest of the way at 11pm. By the time I’d got to my front door he’d sent me a message to say he didn’t feel a spark. Utter creep.

Soarkle · 29/02/2024 23:27

@localnotail yes your relationship sounds like it was shit but that’s not because you split a bill on the first date. It’s because he was an arsehole. You must see that

VampireWeekday · 29/02/2024 23:29

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:23

ofcourse they can but it's only ok for women to say they only date x,y and z or set goal posts. When men do this it's a cardinal sin and sexist/misogynist and so on.

Total nonsense. Women don't go around shaming or commenting on men's bodies in public. They are the ones who shout shit like "nice tits!" At complete strangers.

Anyone can date who they want. Men can tell their mates they only date blondes, whatever. The point is that men then take their own personal preferences and try to impose them on women in general or make sweeping statements. Big difference between saying "fat men are ugly" (not on) and "I just don't really fancy overweight men" for example.

BrightHarvestMoon · 29/02/2024 23:29

@HandsomeGreige · Today 18:53

As a woman, you will be extremely vulnerable if you choose to live a heterosexual life and procreate. Extremely. Whether you take the shortest maternity leave you can or maintain your career- you are carrying those babies and taking the hit. It’s inescapable.

You need to be looked after. You will need to be treasured and valued for the amazing uniquely female thing that you can do. You also should be wanting a father who demonstrates this generosity, kindness and grace to your children.

A man who is apparently seeking a long term relationship, who won’t buy you a glass of wine on your first date is not a kind, generous man. And that’s what it comes down to. You really want to risk derailing your career for a cheapskate loser?

Men who take women on ‘walk dates’ in 5 degree weather like dogs and won’t pick up a 2 drink bill need to be removed from the gene pool. Losers.

100% this! ^

Orab · 29/02/2024 23:30

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:23

ofcourse they can but it's only ok for women to say they only date x,y and z or set goal posts. When men do this it's a cardinal sin and sexist/misogynist and so on.

Not really.

Women are tripping over willing cock every time they walk out the front door. It starts at around age 13 (if you're lucky to get that far without such encounters). Then they spend the rest of our lives getting pissy with us because we don't say yes to all of them. Maybe men could try being a bit more choosy. Would solve problems on both parts it seems to me.

Loubelle70 · 29/02/2024 23:32

Rubbishconfession · 29/02/2024 23:25

Your whole premise is flawed, given our patriarchal society sets impossible beauty standards for women, not men. Men think they have the right to call women they have never met before ‘fat cunts’. When’s the last time you heard of a woman doing the same?

Absolutely!!! Men are excused when slovenly...unkempt...smelly... women are not excused due to societal expectations... perpetuated by the patriarchy.

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:33

Rubbishconfession · 29/02/2024 23:25

Your whole premise is flawed, given our patriarchal society sets impossible beauty standards for women, not men. Men think they have the right to call women they have never met before ‘fat cunts’. When’s the last time you heard of a woman doing the same?

oh here we go with the echo chamber of the patriarchal society... Got anymore buzz words in there? Please explain to me how all the men on the streets, dying of suicide, dying in war, on minimum wage jobs, in poverty are benefiting from this patriarchal society. And um look at the male celebs and icons, none of them are ugly or average looking are they?

''Men think they have the right to call women they have never met before ‘fat cunts’. When’s the last time you heard of a woman doing the same?''

I've seen a million posts here alone condemning the looks of Trump, Boris Johnson, Rishi Sinak....

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:36

VampireWeekday · 29/02/2024 23:29

Total nonsense. Women don't go around shaming or commenting on men's bodies in public. They are the ones who shout shit like "nice tits!" At complete strangers.

Anyone can date who they want. Men can tell their mates they only date blondes, whatever. The point is that men then take their own personal preferences and try to impose them on women in general or make sweeping statements. Big difference between saying "fat men are ugly" (not on) and "I just don't really fancy overweight men" for example.

ok and out of the 33 million men in the UK, how many of them go around shouting ''nice tits'' at women every day? How many times does this happen you you a day?

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:37

Loubelle70 · 29/02/2024 23:32

Absolutely!!! Men are excused when slovenly...unkempt...smelly... women are not excused due to societal expectations... perpetuated by the patriarchy.

Who excuses the men? It certainly isn't on mn.

determinedtomakethiswork · 29/02/2024 23:39

I left a tip when I was on a first date with someone and he stole it while I was putting my coat on.

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:39

Orab · 29/02/2024 23:30

Not really.

Women are tripping over willing cock every time they walk out the front door. It starts at around age 13 (if you're lucky to get that far without such encounters). Then they spend the rest of our lives getting pissy with us because we don't say yes to all of them. Maybe men could try being a bit more choosy. Would solve problems on both parts it seems to me.

oh yes I forgot how on mn no female can pop to the shop for milk without being sexually harassed or assaulted,...

onwardsup4 · 29/02/2024 23:39

HandsomeGreige · 29/02/2024 18:53

As a woman, you will be extremely vulnerable if you choose to live a heterosexual life and procreate. Extremely. Whether you take the shortest maternity leave you can or maintain your career- you are carrying those babies and taking the hit. It’s inescapable.

You need to be looked after. You will need to be treasured and valued for the amazing uniquely female thing that you can do. You also should be wanting a father who demonstrates this generosity, kindness and grace to your children.

A man who is apparently seeking a long term relationship, who won’t buy you a glass of wine on your first date is not a kind, generous man. And that’s what it comes down to. You really want to risk derailing your career for a cheapskate loser?

Men who take women on ‘walk dates’ in 5 degree weather like dogs and won’t pick up a 2 drink bill need to be removed from the gene pool. Losers.

And women shag them and get upset later on when they are shit dads and romantic partners who don’t care about making anyone feel special and loved.

and if they can’t afford it? They can’t afford to be dating. How is he going to do nice things with you, go on holidays and pay half the bills if he can’t buy a Nando’s on the first date.

You can get the bill next time if you want- but the first day is for them to dance and peacock, as it is in the wild. If they don’t want to demonstrate kindness, by grabbing a couple of fucking coffees- run.

👏

VampireWeekday · 29/02/2024 23:41

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:36

ok and out of the 33 million men in the UK, how many of them go around shouting ''nice tits'' at women every day? How many times does this happen you you a day?

How many times does it happen to men in a lifetime? It's not about whether it happens everyday.

The point isn't that men have it easy. You say dying in wars and by suicide - it's not women killing them, is it? You say men who are poor in minimum wage jobs. Its not women who have made them poor, and many women are also poor. The patriarchy harms men too, in different ways. The point is rather than society licences and encourages men to take on roles of superiority, entitlement, leadership and sometimes aggression with regards to women.

Orab · 29/02/2024 23:43

This is just incel nonsense now.

I did have misgivings, a few years back, when we all started encouraging men to talk about their feelings more. I mean god knows we've always heard enough from them anyway.

And so it has come to pass. Don't get me wrong, some interesting dialogue has come through. But for the most part all that it's meant is that as well as being heard uncritically on matters of finance, politics and so on we now have what sometimes seems like an entire internet full of men egging each other on to greater depths of fury at not being able to stick their cocks anywhere they please and then going around shooting folk in the real world. Urgh.

Loubelle70 · 29/02/2024 23:43

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:37

Who excuses the men? It certainly isn't on mn.

Generally.... and yes sometimes men are excused on here.

VampireWeekday · 29/02/2024 23:43

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:39

oh yes I forgot how on mn no female can pop to the shop for milk without being sexually harassed or assaulted,...

Nice incel bingo I was waiting for "women lie about being sexually assaulted". Do the one about women cheating on hard working men, go on.

Orab · 29/02/2024 23:44

... and stealing the kids.

VampireWeekday · 29/02/2024 23:45

How do you know they're your kids anyway dun dun dun

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 29/02/2024 23:46

Vinvertebrate · 29/02/2024 18:03

I'll happily go 50:50 when men are expected to get waxes, buy make-up, have botox, etc.

But I am obviously a dinosaur, so it's lucky I'm already married. bad luck DH

Who expects you to wax, buy make up and botox?

Surely these are choices you make of your own free will and if not, there's something wrong.

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LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:47

Loubelle70 · 29/02/2024 23:43

Generally.... and yes sometimes men are excused on here.

not near as much as women.

Orab · 29/02/2024 23:49

All this because you can't get laid.

Cut your hair, cut your nails, wash your damn face and be nice to women.

Results aren't guaranteed but you've got a higher chance than sat on here berating us.

LindaHamilton · 29/02/2024 23:51

Orab · 29/02/2024 23:49

All this because you can't get laid.

Cut your hair, cut your nails, wash your damn face and be nice to women.

Results aren't guaranteed but you've got a higher chance than sat on here berating us.

I'm a woman in a relationship. But guess what, not all women are into bashing males on here. And the only people getting berated on here are men.

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