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Going Crazy Deciding If I Should Go Back To Him

286 replies

EightiesGal · 24/02/2024 06:05

Hi MN people
Im looking for advice on my situation.
I’m 42 soon. Have one son he’s 20. Lives with his best mate and another mate.
I split with his dad a long time ago. Just concentrated on him while he was growing up. Almost 4 years ago I started dating for the First time. My son wasn’t too bothered as he was 16 then and absorbed in his social life. He barely had anything to do with my bf but admittedly my bf made no effort to spend time with him or get to know him. I dated him for 18 months nearly then called it off. I was feeling insecure and there were things that I was unhappy about. He’s 9 years older, that’s ok as he’s mature and established in life. His two daughters are grown up.
The issues were he is a dictator. He probably means well but he would lecture me and talk at me not to me. He was always right and if I did things differently to how he wanted me to, he would be angry and even ignore me for a day or two. I felt criticised often and like I couldn’t be my authentic self. He would criticise my parenting too. He probably thought he was looking out for me and could be loving and caring but only when what I said and did met his approval. I could not tell him things that upset me about him without him becoming very angry, telling me I’m stupid and overreacting or telling me to F off. He is obsessed with porn and I tried talking about how that upset me and it was dismissed like everything else, swept under the carpet. Basically I learnt do not challenge him, he’s not changing, he’s going to do what he wants no matter what.
After breaking it off I took a job several hours away. Slightly better pay but I needed a change of scenery.
He has stayed in contact and didn’t want me to go. He has asked me to come back and actually move in with him. I’m not sure what to do. Most people would’ve given up the moment the partner left town, but he’s persistent. However he’s telling me that I need to win back his trust after leaving and his affections as I’ve been away a long time. He’s not in love with me anymore and not sure he wants me as a life partner, not sure he wants a long term relationship. I told him I want commitment and to settle down. I want to be wanted. It’s hard to just take a gamble that I pack up and go to him when he can’t reassure me he’s in it for the long haul. I realise there’s no guarantees in life but he’s being quite lukewarm which makes me worry he’s already decided he’s not wanting anything serious. He says I must take a chance and stop being so intense.
In conversations over the past 6 months he’s been very hot and cold and when he’s in a mood he calls me names, runs me down and swears at me. It hurts and he won’t apologise as he says I’m in the wrong for leaving and being away this long.
I still love him but I’m in two minds.
would love opinions

OP posts:
pinkyredrose · 26/02/2024 11:31

EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 11:27

There wasn’t much sexual activity unfortunately but it was all on his terms and if he wanted it, he would get it but only cared about himself in bed.

Gross.

Op what's stopping you blocking him? Does he know where you live?

EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 11:37

He knows the address but he’s never been to my place

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BrunhildefromDusseldorf · 26/02/2024 11:45

My blood ran cold reading that. No contact is the only way. Please work on your self-esteem so you don't live your life thinking this is what you deserve.

EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 11:51

After many many posts saying this guy is bad for me and advising me to block and never go back, I’ll listen to the admonition. Every single person has given same opinions. I would be foolish not to pay attention.
I must need professional help which I’ll seek because I’m not strong mentally and emotionally

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 26/02/2024 11:52

He sounds a real catch - not !
Move on, you KNOW you can do soooo much better !

Starlight1979 · 26/02/2024 11:52

" He was always right and if I did things differently to how he wanted me to, he would be angry and even ignore me for a day or two"

"He would criticise my parenting too."

"He is obsessed with porn and I tried talking about how that upset me and it was dismissed like everything else"

"When he’s in a mood he calls me names, runs me down and swears at me"

"One conversation he will call me a dumb ct"

Wow he sounds like an absolute gem. Why are you even asking for advice?! Grab this man quickly before another lucky lady gets her hands on him!!!

3luckystars · 26/02/2024 11:57

Please stop doubting yourself and your intuition.

He is BAD NEWS.

BAD NEWS!!!!

Get well away from him and never look back. Work on yourself and why you think this is all you deserve.

Can you imagine how cantankerous he is going to be in old age? Visualise that as you put your trainers on.

EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 12:01

Well - One poster sent a link to something that talks about codependency and even trauma bonding. Becoming so attached to the person who causes the hurt because they have cycles in which they’re extremely nice (like in my situation) and that creates the bond. Then we overlook the bad because of only focusing on the moments of being nice.

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EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 12:22

He must have some magnetism. He’s actually got a number of ex girlfriends/ conquests who keep in touch with him. Not something I’ve ever been happy about but they’ve been willing to stay in contact with him. I know it’s not the same as living with him or being in a relationship still but they find him good enough to keep him in the picture

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Nicole1111 · 26/02/2024 12:46

It’s not magnetism or being good enough. It’s control, coercion, grooming, manipulation, trauma bonding and the destruction of a person’s self esteem. He has utilised all these tactics to enable him to get new partners and maintain relationships with old partners. He’s clearly very skilled and well practised at what he does.

Newestname002 · 26/02/2024 13:04

EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 11:51

After many many posts saying this guy is bad for me and advising me to block and never go back, I’ll listen to the admonition. Every single person has given same opinions. I would be foolish not to pay attention.
I must need professional help which I’ll seek because I’m not strong mentally and emotionally

This consensus doesn't happen often on MN. Please, please listen to those telling you the plain if painful truth and keep yourself and your life well away from this dangerous man. As for those Ex-girlfriends succumbing to his "magnetism" leave them to it and live a happier and safer life without this virus. 🌹

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 26/02/2024 13:12

Thankfully you have already moved away from him !!!!!!!

Do remember that, you have already escaped !!!!

BLOCK DELETE MOVE ON

BigAnne · 26/02/2024 13:15

EightiesGal · 24/02/2024 06:05

Hi MN people
Im looking for advice on my situation.
I’m 42 soon. Have one son he’s 20. Lives with his best mate and another mate.
I split with his dad a long time ago. Just concentrated on him while he was growing up. Almost 4 years ago I started dating for the First time. My son wasn’t too bothered as he was 16 then and absorbed in his social life. He barely had anything to do with my bf but admittedly my bf made no effort to spend time with him or get to know him. I dated him for 18 months nearly then called it off. I was feeling insecure and there were things that I was unhappy about. He’s 9 years older, that’s ok as he’s mature and established in life. His two daughters are grown up.
The issues were he is a dictator. He probably means well but he would lecture me and talk at me not to me. He was always right and if I did things differently to how he wanted me to, he would be angry and even ignore me for a day or two. I felt criticised often and like I couldn’t be my authentic self. He would criticise my parenting too. He probably thought he was looking out for me and could be loving and caring but only when what I said and did met his approval. I could not tell him things that upset me about him without him becoming very angry, telling me I’m stupid and overreacting or telling me to F off. He is obsessed with porn and I tried talking about how that upset me and it was dismissed like everything else, swept under the carpet. Basically I learnt do not challenge him, he’s not changing, he’s going to do what he wants no matter what.
After breaking it off I took a job several hours away. Slightly better pay but I needed a change of scenery.
He has stayed in contact and didn’t want me to go. He has asked me to come back and actually move in with him. I’m not sure what to do. Most people would’ve given up the moment the partner left town, but he’s persistent. However he’s telling me that I need to win back his trust after leaving and his affections as I’ve been away a long time. He’s not in love with me anymore and not sure he wants me as a life partner, not sure he wants a long term relationship. I told him I want commitment and to settle down. I want to be wanted. It’s hard to just take a gamble that I pack up and go to him when he can’t reassure me he’s in it for the long haul. I realise there’s no guarantees in life but he’s being quite lukewarm which makes me worry he’s already decided he’s not wanting anything serious. He says I must take a chance and stop being so intense.
In conversations over the past 6 months he’s been very hot and cold and when he’s in a mood he calls me names, runs me down and swears at me. It hurts and he won’t apologise as he says I’m in the wrong for leaving and being away this long.
I still love him but I’m in two minds.
would love opinions

I'm sorry op but you sound pathetic. I'm tyring of adult women allowing themselves to be badly treated. You have no shared responsibilities with this horror. You know what you should do for you and your son so please stop looking for sympathy and quite simply grow up.

pinkyredrose · 26/02/2024 13:26

BigAnne · 26/02/2024 13:15

I'm sorry op but you sound pathetic. I'm tyring of adult women allowing themselves to be badly treated. You have no shared responsibilities with this horror. You know what you should do for you and your son so please stop looking for sympathy and quite simply grow up.

You desperately need to learn empathy.

The Op is certainly not pathetic, she devoted herself to her son and is now caught in an abusive cycle which has eroded her self esteem.

Ps. it's 'tiring'.

rainbowstardrops · 26/02/2024 14:18

You've had a lot of good advice on here. You left him for a reason and he clearly hasn't changed one iota, so you'd be foolish to even consider going back to him. Like others have said, he'll just be punishing you for daring to leave him in the first place.

BigAnne · 26/02/2024 14:20

pinkyredrose · 26/02/2024 13:26

You desperately need to learn empathy.

The Op is certainly not pathetic, she devoted herself to her son and is now caught in an abusive cycle which has eroded her self esteem.

Ps. it's 'tiring'.

Edited

The Op's relationship with this scumbag will have impacted negatively on her DS. I Lost all sympathy for her after she detailed all of the abusive and after having started a new life is now considering reconciliation. My DM did this when I was a teenager. I lost all respect for her.

Redrose23 · 26/02/2024 15:26

@BigAnne well there are those who believe they are the centre of the world and have zero empathy for others when things go wrong for them, and others who understand life isn’t that black and white, and have empathy and care for those who end up in abusive situations. OP isn’t pathetic , she got caught up with a guy who was undoubtedly not honest about who he was until he had hooked her in, and when we truly love someone we give them chances and want to hope for the best. Sadly men like this lovebomb, tell a lot of lies, and their true colours are revealed once they know they’ve gained control. Love means being vulnerable, and any strong woman can end up being blindsided by a guy like this. When we go through things like this it gives us deeper understanding of others. Men like this tend to target people strong or weak, who have a lot of love, loyalty and empathy. She is far from pathetic, she isn’t hard of heart and has been weighing up the situation because people mean something to her. Ultimately this guy has ramped up the abuse to the point where it is now clear what his intentions are, and so the hope is that for her own future happiness and the happiness of her child, she will cut this man off and begin the healing process.

Redrose23 · 26/02/2024 15:36

OP- this guy IS a narcissist and with narcissists, it is about control, not vulnerability and building something real. It’s a game. You are a pawn in the game. Generally narcissists have a ball in many courts and want to maintain control of that ball. If one slips away, they aim to get it back in their own timing but they are all focused on other situations at the same time. They triangulate, rotate women, play people off against each other, and the game is “prove yourself worthy to me” this is an ego boost for him, to see you pack up and crawl back with your tail between your legs- and he’s so confident he can make you do that, that he’s even saying he doesn’t love you, believing fully you’ll still take his breadcrumbs! Of course he wants to exert financial control over you. Then he can punish you for leaving, tell you you’re nothing without him, kick you out and make you homeless or threaten to if you displease him, and when he’s bored or meets someone else, he can either cheat and if you find out say “it wasn’t working/ I didn’t love you and sadly the love didn’t come back but we tried” and the same sick rhetoric from the very strategic narc handbook. You’re too good for this, I have history of violent and coercive relatIonships and you will be much happier without this guy but you need to fully cut him off.

EightiesGal · 26/02/2024 21:38

I’m sorry you’ve had to go through bad situations to gain the knowledge and inner strength you now have. Thank you for the advice and warnings

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EightiesGal · 27/02/2024 09:48

Thank you.
I think one thing that always stuck with me was that when I left town, this big 6ft3 tough man broke down and cried and begged me to stay. Unless that was an act too?!

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trythisforsize · 27/02/2024 09:55

What really should stick with you, is him calling you a cunt.

Sorry to be blunt but you are clutching at straws. He's manipulative and dangerous. End of.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 27/02/2024 10:07

Oh ! he was standing there watching you leave was he ?
how clever of him to cry - it nearly worked didn't it.

How long ago was it that you escaped his clutches ?

Which bit of

' He’s not in love with me anymore and not sure he wants me as a life partner, not sure he wants a long term relationship. '

do you not understand ?

Why would you even contemplate being with him ?

Maybe print out or write out these words

He’s not in love with me anymore

not sure he wants me as a life partner,

not sure he wants a long term relationship.

stick them on every door in your home
stick them in your purse
stick them on your phone
stick them on your laptop
stick them on the kitchen cupboard doors
say them out aloud to yourself

Did you split up with this bully 2.5 years ago ?
yet you were only together 1.5 years ?

How long ago did you move away ?

SamW98 · 27/02/2024 10:11

EightiesGal · 27/02/2024 09:48

Thank you.
I think one thing that always stuck with me was that when I left town, this big 6ft3 tough man broke down and cried and begged me to stay. Unless that was an act too?!

Absolute manipulation. Every word you post proves few beyond doubt there’s only one cunt here and it’s not you.

Honestly OP can you really not see how fucking vile this prick is? He’s not even hiding what a POS he is - he’s showing his abuse in plain sight

WinkyTinky · 27/02/2024 10:16

Please please OP do not consider any kind of relationship with this pathetic human. He is not worth your love, or anyone else's, and he fully deserves to live out his life a lonely old man. I've read a lot of things on here but this is one of the worst. He is just awful as a person, and what's worse is that he's made you think so little of yourself and that is utterly unfair. Please find a counsellor to help you build yourself back up, and never ever speak to him again.

EightiesGal · 27/02/2024 10:49

I’m not making excuses for him or saying I’m going back. I’m just pointing out that it tugged at my heart strings for a long time that he cried.

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