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2 children + 1 dull husband = affair

229 replies

middleclassalchy · 23/03/2008 11:05

I have never done "message boards" before, but read an article on mumsnet in the Guardian, struck a chord..maybe there are other mothers out there who dont live their lives around which is the right school, can junior read better than a n other how many different types of veg can I fit into my Waitrose quick check bag to look
impressive.

Anyway, I am mid 30`s, married for 10 years, 2 boys and so very, very bored. Over Christmas a neighbour, who I have known for 8 years, and I started something which should not have been started and blimey, life has got so much more interesting! So far, even though he lives only 2 mins away, we have been very discreet and no one knows, however its eating me up. I now not only find my husband boring, but also am begining to dislike him.

I have a "meeting" planned for Fri evening...what do I do...carry on things as its giving me a bounce in my step and a reason to get up. Or.....?

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MadameCh0let · 23/03/2008 23:11

Yeah I wouldn't think too much of posting my e-mail address and then deleting the post a minute later.

I get so many e-mails for penis enlargements and viagra and rolex watches, I can't see what harm could come from posting e-mail address!

lou33 · 23/03/2008 23:14

i dont even bother deleting it, i just use at, instead of @,dot instead of ., etc when posting it

puffling · 23/03/2008 23:18

Was the OP a journo?

WatsTheStory · 23/03/2008 23:20

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MadameCh0let · 24/03/2008 07:41

It's not the board, it's the sprites on it. There's no board monitoring at all.

Anyone who says "whoah! that's your marriage on the line" gets slagged for being pious, and told to stop being a sanctimonious moralising agent from the vatican.....

Icantbelieveitsnotdragonbutter · 24/03/2008 08:12

She needs to consider her children. When my father had an affair (one we knew about) i was about 9 years old.
As the child in this situation you are not concerned with whether your parents are compatible sexually. My only thoughts were that they were willing to lose what we had as a family for the sake of an exciting shag.
It made me feel worthless.
She needs to sort this out in an adult way. The relationship is doomed so go about it in a way that protects the children from finding out how selfish and spiteful she is.

MadameCh0let · 24/03/2008 08:34

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MadameCh0let · 24/03/2008 08:35

Sorry that post was meant to go on another thread the "I think my marriage is over thread". I don't know how I managed to put it on the wrong thread entirely.. Sorry.

Icantbelieveitsnotdragonbutter · 24/03/2008 09:26

It's not selfish and spiteful to realise a relationship is not working and I agree it is not good to stay in a relationship that is not working for the sake of the kids. My parents did that too, and it was definitely not a stable family home. I was also happier once the marriage dissolved.
It's the affair that is selfish and if not spiteful then definitely inconsiderate.
My point is that an affair can affect the children more than she realises and for much longer too. It certainly affected my approach to my adult relationships.
But you meant to put that in another thread, so i'm confused now.

MadameCh0let · 24/03/2008 09:46

I did! I read your comment about selfish and thought I was on another thread. But I was on this one. SO. IGNORE my earlier post!

Can somebody tell me how you delete a post?!

Icantbelieveitsnotdragonbutter · 24/03/2008 09:48

click on the red exclamation mark and ask HQ to delete it.

QuintessentiallyAnEmptyCave · 24/03/2008 10:22

Oh Boy. I did not predict this one kicking off.

maturer · 24/03/2008 14:00

mcc, it is not my or anyone elses place to judge you- but it is clear by the fact that you have posted that you are judging yourself and don't like what you see.

Good people sometimes get to a place in their lives where they make bad choices and cause a lot of pain to themselves and many others around them.

My dh had an affair with a work colleague, nearly 4 years ago now- it was at a time in his life where he was "bored" with work, had too much time on his hands,felt not needed anymore and happened to be spending a lot of time with this woman.....we'd been together then 20 years , 3 children and we were happy BUT WE LET LIFE GET IN THE WAY OF US we stopped making time for each other and HE made the wrong choice.

He never told me how he was feeling, he never stopped us and said "there's a crisis in my life"....he always had that option but did not take it....instead he was selfish, foolish and saught escapism in a fantasy....it all ended in lots of pain for many people. I cannot stress enough how much pain and how much ongoing mistrust and saddness an affair creates. The ripples that go out from thge discovery of an affair are never ending- please stop and think, do you really want to cause so much pain for you, you other man, your dh ,chidren, friends, wider family, school friends, teachers and all of his family too? What I'm trying to say is take a reality check!!!! What you are experincing now is the heady, excitment of a fantasy relationship.....it is unlikely to survive the reality of every day life.

You have choices here please use them- surely you have enough love for your dh and children to tell your dh how unhappy you are , to seek to make changes. I'm not saying stay in a relationship if you are so unhappy BUT there are ways to change things and diving into escapism of an affair is not the answer it WILL become known , you WILL be hurt and a lot of people whom you care for will be hurt too.

MY dh (we are still together but we went to hell and back to get over this)can now see how blinded he was by the feelings he got from an affair- he got a ego boost at a time when he needed it- he closed his eyes to the obvious and jusrified in his own head what he was doing ....however all the time he was not really happy...it ate him up...he was confused and in pain ...he could never really enjoy the relationship because it wasn't real and when reality hit and it came out the relationship crumbled for it was just a fantasy not a true lovinglong term relatinship- he nearly lost everything he holds dear.

I would not wish the pain of an affair on my worst enemy- please don't put your loved ones through that......if you can't live the life you have make changes, make them openly and honestly not sneaking around and decieving......tell your dh you are in crisis , try to make him understand your unhappiness.....you may be surprised at how he reacts if you can make him understand that you are thinking of throwing it all away.

In a long term relationship it is easy to slowly, without realising, let life get in the way and you lose each other in there some where......you can choose to try and stop that and bring yourself closer to your partner.

My dh is not a bad man- but he hurt me so much when he made the wrong choices- we are closer now and in some ways better in our relatinship having faced loosing it all. I emplore you not to choose to bring all this pain to your life. You are already talking about this eating you up.....it only gets worse if you keep on this life choice.

I wish you luck and happiness.

alfiesbabe · 24/03/2008 14:05

maturer, I just want to say how brave you are and what an honest, insightful post. Anyone contemplating embarking on an affair should read it and get some idea of the huge repurcussions. I'm glad you and your DH managed to get through this, you deserve happiness now.

maturer · 24/03/2008 14:15

Thanks ab. We are happy but realise how close we came to it all being lost.

I just want to try and express to anyone in this situation just what they are getting into. My dh says now if he'd had even a glimmer of an idea of what he was getting into he would have stopped before it started in his words " I nearly threw away so much for so little!"

I truely wish mcc a better life and hope she can find her way through this time in her life with less pain.I KNOW she just has no idea of what she's starting!!!

mummybrains · 24/03/2008 14:48

Maturer - Wow! I am printing out your words to add to collection of thoughts I have in a little book which I use to remind me why I have should not have behaved badly like the OP and to hopefully stop me doing it again. Wise words - well said. Only hope she's still reading.

SheikYerboutisEggHunt · 24/03/2008 14:49

Mummybrains, how are you doing? I remember your thread from a few weeks ago

UniversallyChallenged · 24/03/2008 14:51

"muumy why did you and daddy split up?" weeps child

"because the woman at number 43 was bored and couldnt be bothered to sort her own life out - so took ours"

and you are surprised to feel like you're being judged?

Troll? Hope so
Bored teenager? Maybe
Journo? Reckon so
Stupid and nasty? Oh yes siree

mummybrains · 24/03/2008 15:01

Hi Sheik.
Thanks - Still popping the pills. Still being seen by psych. Still weeping a bit. Still reading MN.

I have seen the scumknobjocktwatcnut and we have talked - everyone here was right about him. Oh, and his wife thinks I'm 'dangerous'. (A bit late in the day).

You were a real help when I got on here to confess my sins like this OP and was called a troll, a child abuser, a homewrecking tart and god knows what else. Just now trying to do my bit and stop others from making the same mistake. Reformed? - possibly not, but working on it. xx

SheikYerboutisEggHunt · 24/03/2008 15:04

Good for you!

As for you being "dangerous" I think that label to be firmly pinned to Mr. Knob Jockey.

I'm really glad you are getting yourself sorted. You did the right thing.

Salla · 24/03/2008 15:24

Like your posts MadameChloet. What is wrong with you women for accusing anothern mother, why not have a go at the men who basically cannot give their wives what they want? I think 99% of the time the affairs and divorces are the result of men being inadequate lovers and husbands.

alfiesbabe · 24/03/2008 15:39

Not sure where you get your statistics from Salla. Saying 99% of the time it's basically the man's fault for being inadequate as a lover/husband is shocking imo. It takes two to make a relationship. What about the idea of men and women being equal? And able to create their own happiness/interests/fulfilment instead of looking to someone else to provide it? If the OP made more of her own life rather than blaming her DH for her boredom, then she wouldnt be in this situation.

pagwatch · 24/03/2008 16:09

Oh good grief.
yes - of course it will always be the mans fault.
We women , we have no control, no accountabilty and no responsibility. Poor us.

It is about 1840 isn't it?

D74 · 24/03/2008 16:35

Hiya, I don't come on here v often either. I'm quite shocked at the vitriol towards you and hope this isn't typical of Mumsnet (?)... I think you're in a difficult situation and need support. Just to put my post in context: I've been married for 6 yrs and though we love each other, we've had a lot of probs (him: emotional affair w/ woman at work, me: subsequent 'revenge affair' as they call them...v messy, although life is messy, right?) Don't let the people on here judging you get to you. I also don't particularly identify with 'dedicated mothers' and certainly enjoy a drink too!

My advice then, for what it's worth: as others have suggested, find another interest or career possibility outside both your husband and the affair. Who knows where that will lead after all and will certainly alleviate the boredom that comes with kids and domesticity.

If you think there's any hope for you and the husband, organise counselling (we did Relate - was ok but think we needed longer, more in-depth sessions, which Relate aren't great for...)

If you think there's no hope, can you financially afford to leave? Are you brave enough to come clean?

I hope some of the nicer posts on here offer some help and support.

Best wishes.

collision · 24/03/2008 17:00

Bolleaux to that Salla.

the man is not here to talk to.

The OP (who has gone now) is so very very bored and decided to go and have an affair with someone to spice up her life.

Doesnt want to take it further ie leave DH and move in with man.....just causing mischief for her own satisfaction.

It takes two to tango and OK the man shouldnt have gone for it but how would you feel if you were the woman married to the man shagging the neighbour?

the fact that 'it doesnt mean anything and we will not leave our spouses' makes it worse imho. At least split up 2 families and devastate the children for something important and not just to make life more interesting.