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Is this controlling behaviour?

142 replies

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:04

i think im in way over my head with a man i have been seeing for almost 7 months, and it's like a fog is lifting, but i could really use a sense check.

he insists on walking me to the door of everywhere i go when we have spent time together, including picking up my dc from school or playdates. it used to be sweet but now because i know if i said not to, because i wanted to walk by myself or walk quickly, he would take offence

he pressured me into meeting my mum when she was visiting; if i had said no, he would have been upset

we met up when we were both in a different part of the country visiting respective family over xmas, and he pressured me into taking 2 days and a night to visit his family during that time even though i wanted to compromise and just spend a day together

he doesn't like me using my phone when i am with him, even if we spend the whole day together- he says it's not respectful, and to say something like 'i just need to take this' if its something urgent

however if i don't respond to messages quickly or answer his call in time he says we have different needs for communication - we spent NYE with our respective families and he spent the next day upset with me as i didnt text him until 12.12 not at 12.00. i was with my dc (he doesnt have any). he says his whole family and his ex wife are very reliable with their response times and i'm not there for him

he gets upset whenever i have to leave no matter how much time we spend together (eg full days, or if we see each other for a few hours every day). im a single parent and i cant really do overnights unless faraway family visit me. but i have made the time to go away with him for weekends and a week, and the odd night or two, and i see him every single day as i know he wants to do that. quite a lot of the time when we say goodbye he seems pissed off and im like 'are you upset with me?' and he denies it but then he will send me a sad or annoyed text or email about how he doesnt feel i love him as much as he loves me, or how lonely he is. its predictable at this point.

this has also caused issues because he feels he should be more in my 'inner circle' as he calls it - his brothers were introduced to their partners dc very quickly (like weeks/a month) and even moved in, and i am cautious as my dc went through my and ex-h's divorce fairly recently and is very sensitive. he has met my dc casually but i am not looking to eg. have sleepovers when she is around, and he takes it very personally that he doesnt 'know her better' yet.
this also caused issues when we didnt spend christmas day together and he ignored me all day, didnt get me a present or card or say thanks for what i got him, and sent me a guilt tripping email about how upset it made him that we were apart

he doesn't like me talking about exes and has a hangup because months ago i reminisced that i used to love grungy guys with long hair and he still says to me almost every day 'you're going to leave me for some young guy with long hair' (he is 10y older and has short thinning hair). no matter how much i reassure that i fancy him it doesnt help. (however he is still 'best friends' with his ex-w and has said she still loves him, he is going to stay with her for a week to help her after surgery, etc...)

he wanted to move closer to me and when i said i wasnt sure as it was only 3 months in, he pressured me with guilt/withdrawal until i agreed, but then since moving he has wanted to spend a lot of time with me and as someone with a busy remote job and a school aged dc (he isnt working ATM and has no kids) it feels like so much pressure to meet his expectations of contact

whenever he watches a romantic movie he compares it to us but not in a nice way always - yesterday he watched a movie about love at first sight and texted me saying 'why didnt you have that with me when we first met' (we met in a work away week where i was very busy and only connected at the end of that week)

and the usual love bombing stuff... never felt this way before, our connection is so special, offers of commitment very quickly (he has mentioned moving in, marriage and babies a lot even though his own divorce is not finalised)

i feel like he gaslights me when i have tried to say i feel he is pushy and pressures me, he says he isn't at all, but i even get an anxious fight or flight response when we talk these days as i always feel he wants something from me, and he said that's just my anxiety and no one causes your anxiety, it comes from within.

god when written down it all sounds bad. i always used to date younger/more passive men and married one. at first i liked how forthright he was. but now it is making me feel drained. does he sound controlling?

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Stressyfab · 08/01/2024 15:09

Your description had my skin crawling, he sounds incredibly controlling.

LadyDanburysHat · 08/01/2024 15:09

You are changing your behaviour because of his reaction to you wanting to do it your way. I would say that is coercive at best.

He takes offence, he gets upset at things that are perfectly reasonable. He has bulldozered over any boundaries you have tried to have. It should be fun at 7 months in, not draining.

Topseyt123 · 08/01/2024 15:12

Very controlling behaviour, I'd say.

I wouldn't put up with it and if that meant the relationship couldn't survive then so be it.

Needtogrowsproutsfordecember · 08/01/2024 15:15

Delete all messages.. Block all ways he can contact you.

Now.
He sounds unhinged and potentially a danger to you and your dc...

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:15

thats what i thought.

he comes from a tough background with domestic violence from his father towards him and his mother, but he talks a lot about recognising his father as abusive and how glad he is his mother escaped the emotional/physical abuse, so i think he wouldnt recognise his own behaviours as abuse or control. but it feels more controlling and coercive than any r'ship i have ever had and im in mid 30s with a fairly long dating history and a past dysfunctional marriage

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Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 15:16

Op, honestly, what in the fuck are you even doing with this man?

He sounds horrible. Desperate, whinging, insecure, ridiculously controlling and absolutely insufferable. It's shocking that you're still with him and subjecting your child to him.

Get rid of him already.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:18

the phone stuff is too much right? i am a typical millenial and in the course of a day i spend time texting family/friends, arranging dc pickups if she is on playdates, looking stuff up, checking work emails or slack, checking directions on maps.... im not a scroller or rude, but it really annoys him. i feel i am having to change my behaviour even in a small way. i also get nervous if he calls me and i cant pick up as i know he will be pissed off.

yesterday when we said goodbye he went to kiss me when i was talking and he was like 'dont turn your head away when i kiss you, i dont like that'.

he is currently being off with me even though i helped him with his CV for 2 hours yesterday.

it just all feels like so much.

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SamW98 · 08/01/2024 15:18

Controlling as fuck. And you’ve only been with him a few months

Get out now OP. This will only get worse

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:19

he has only met my dc once very quickly so i have been very careful about that. maybe i AM over cautious with dc and new partners but that is my right surely. whenever i say he doesnt get that as he doesnt have dc he takes offence.

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JimBeamCoke · 08/01/2024 15:20

This isn’t going to get any better. He is unwilling to change and does not want to appreciate what you want from the relationship. He wants control from living together, knowing your whereabouts, having a relationship with your child and family. He does not respect your boundaries and it will only get worse when you get more involved and he knows more about you or can’t imagine life without you. It will be tough but the sooner you get out the better.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 15:21

He takes "offense" at pretty much everything, doesn't he?

Again, WHY are you still with this man?

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:21

i think i feel a bit confused because i really liked his strong personality and his emotional expressiveness because my ex-h was awful in a different way. he was quite passive and let me make all the decisions but he was a huge sulker and would sulk at me and my dc for hours/a whole day if i disagreed with him over something. he wouldnt communicate. if i was in a sad mood he would guilt me into acting more 'happy'. would get angry and nasty, tel me i was shit wife and he was sick of me, but only in arguments. and he never did anything round the house, by the end i was completely drained and resentful. but ex-h was not like this, not overtly controlling. its almost making me see my marriage with rose tinted glasses. i feel like my whole compass on relationships is totally skewed at this point if i am subsceptible to 2 very different types of abusive men. it makes me feel very depressed.

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Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 15:22

You have gone from one abuser to another, and I'm sad to say your current boyfriend sounds much, much worse than your ex.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/01/2024 15:23

He targeted you deliberately and has more red flags about him than are present at a Communist Rally. You need to sever all methods of he being able to contact you as of now. Such behaviour as well will only worsen the longer you at all remain with him.

Read Why does he do that? written by Lundy Bancroft.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:24

@JimBeamCoke he paints wanting a relationship with my child and family as a positive thing but it really does feel pushy.

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Terrribletwos · 08/01/2024 15:24

Your ex sounds bad enough but this current one sounds absolutely batshit crazy and dangerous!! I would be cutting contact immediately, he's deranged!!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/01/2024 15:26

So you've gone from one emotional abuser to a controlling type of abuser; this is a common scenario sadly.

End this current relationship by text and tell him this is no longer working for you. Then block him.

Your boundaries here, already skewed by previous abuse, are being further eroded by this man you've been seeing now. Please forget about dating and or relationships till you've sorted your own boundaries out. Enrolling yourself onto the Freedom Programme could help as part of your ongoing recovery from abusive relationships.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:26

@Terrribletwos why do you think that? he really does paint all his requests/demands/needs as normal and like im the one who doesnt get it, so i think i have been worn down here. it really does feel like a fog is lifting.

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CurlsnSunshinetime4tea · 08/01/2024 15:27

Good grief these examples are horrible to read.
Please end the relationship now his behavior/comments/rationalization are glowing red flags!!

wayyour · 08/01/2024 15:31

Horrible controlling behaviour, OP. You know you need to get rid of this one sharpish.

purplecorkheart · 08/01/2024 15:32

Honestly he has more red flags than a red flag factory. Break up with him by text and block. I would invest in a Ring doorbell in case he starts calling around etc in case you need to take this future.

Terrribletwos · 08/01/2024 15:33

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:26

@Terrribletwos why do you think that? he really does paint all his requests/demands/needs as normal and like im the one who doesnt get it, so i think i have been worn down here. it really does feel like a fog is lifting.

Well just by every one of the examples you give make him sound derang we d to me. Normal people don't act like that. But, I am sure, underneath the fog, you are seeing it too. Don't let your heart rule your head.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 08/01/2024 15:34

talks a lot about recognising his father as abusive and how glad he is his mother escaped the emotional/physical abuse

Hes manipulating you into aagreeing that his behaviour isn't abusive or controlling... when in fact that is exactly what it is.
Block and don't look back. You deserve better!

bendypines · 08/01/2024 15:34

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:26

@Terrribletwos why do you think that? he really does paint all his requests/demands/needs as normal and like im the one who doesnt get it, so i think i have been worn down here. it really does feel like a fog is lifting.

He paints his demands as normal. Well, he would, wouldn't he? Because that way, he get his own way all the time and makes you out to be the unreasonable one.

He is forcing you to do things you don't want to do in order to appease him. I'm assuming you don't want to spend the rest of your life jumping when he says jump.

Please dump this horrible man as soon as possible.

Liveandforget · 08/01/2024 15:37

Agree with what everyone else has said. This is not just controlling, this extreme manipulation. Sounds like he wants access to your child?

How on earth can you be bothered with all that drama and silent treatment and nonsense from him? You're a mother, all your energy and headspace is being taken up by this horrible man and trying to deal with his behaviour. What have you got left for yourself or your child?

Dump him with a single text, no back and forth, just one quick text, and block him on everything. And get some therapy for yourself. You've been in two abusive relationships so far, you need to understand why and how not to repeat it.