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Is this controlling behaviour?

142 replies

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:04

i think im in way over my head with a man i have been seeing for almost 7 months, and it's like a fog is lifting, but i could really use a sense check.

he insists on walking me to the door of everywhere i go when we have spent time together, including picking up my dc from school or playdates. it used to be sweet but now because i know if i said not to, because i wanted to walk by myself or walk quickly, he would take offence

he pressured me into meeting my mum when she was visiting; if i had said no, he would have been upset

we met up when we were both in a different part of the country visiting respective family over xmas, and he pressured me into taking 2 days and a night to visit his family during that time even though i wanted to compromise and just spend a day together

he doesn't like me using my phone when i am with him, even if we spend the whole day together- he says it's not respectful, and to say something like 'i just need to take this' if its something urgent

however if i don't respond to messages quickly or answer his call in time he says we have different needs for communication - we spent NYE with our respective families and he spent the next day upset with me as i didnt text him until 12.12 not at 12.00. i was with my dc (he doesnt have any). he says his whole family and his ex wife are very reliable with their response times and i'm not there for him

he gets upset whenever i have to leave no matter how much time we spend together (eg full days, or if we see each other for a few hours every day). im a single parent and i cant really do overnights unless faraway family visit me. but i have made the time to go away with him for weekends and a week, and the odd night or two, and i see him every single day as i know he wants to do that. quite a lot of the time when we say goodbye he seems pissed off and im like 'are you upset with me?' and he denies it but then he will send me a sad or annoyed text or email about how he doesnt feel i love him as much as he loves me, or how lonely he is. its predictable at this point.

this has also caused issues because he feels he should be more in my 'inner circle' as he calls it - his brothers were introduced to their partners dc very quickly (like weeks/a month) and even moved in, and i am cautious as my dc went through my and ex-h's divorce fairly recently and is very sensitive. he has met my dc casually but i am not looking to eg. have sleepovers when she is around, and he takes it very personally that he doesnt 'know her better' yet.
this also caused issues when we didnt spend christmas day together and he ignored me all day, didnt get me a present or card or say thanks for what i got him, and sent me a guilt tripping email about how upset it made him that we were apart

he doesn't like me talking about exes and has a hangup because months ago i reminisced that i used to love grungy guys with long hair and he still says to me almost every day 'you're going to leave me for some young guy with long hair' (he is 10y older and has short thinning hair). no matter how much i reassure that i fancy him it doesnt help. (however he is still 'best friends' with his ex-w and has said she still loves him, he is going to stay with her for a week to help her after surgery, etc...)

he wanted to move closer to me and when i said i wasnt sure as it was only 3 months in, he pressured me with guilt/withdrawal until i agreed, but then since moving he has wanted to spend a lot of time with me and as someone with a busy remote job and a school aged dc (he isnt working ATM and has no kids) it feels like so much pressure to meet his expectations of contact

whenever he watches a romantic movie he compares it to us but not in a nice way always - yesterday he watched a movie about love at first sight and texted me saying 'why didnt you have that with me when we first met' (we met in a work away week where i was very busy and only connected at the end of that week)

and the usual love bombing stuff... never felt this way before, our connection is so special, offers of commitment very quickly (he has mentioned moving in, marriage and babies a lot even though his own divorce is not finalised)

i feel like he gaslights me when i have tried to say i feel he is pushy and pressures me, he says he isn't at all, but i even get an anxious fight or flight response when we talk these days as i always feel he wants something from me, and he said that's just my anxiety and no one causes your anxiety, it comes from within.

god when written down it all sounds bad. i always used to date younger/more passive men and married one. at first i liked how forthright he was. but now it is making me feel drained. does he sound controlling?

OP posts:
Justintimeee · 08/01/2024 16:20

He sounds very clingy and insecure. Over time this will get worse trust me. Please distance yourself asap

DowntonCrabby · 08/01/2024 16:21

Please, please tell us you’re going to end this relationship OP. (Carefully as he sounds like he could be very nasty!) This is horrendous. You’ve come halfway recognising all this as abuse and control, I really hope these responses have confirmed that it’s absolutely not you, it’s him. Flowers

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 08/01/2024 16:22

You are your DCs mother. It is ENTIRELY up to you when someone meets your DC, not some random man who thinks it should be in his control. Of all the dreadful things he says and does, demanding he should be introduced to your DC was the one that made me clasp my face and go 'no no no no.'

Yocal · 08/01/2024 16:24

GET OUT

And do it safely.

Stand firm and assertive in your communication, it sounds like he walks all over your boundaries to get his needy needs met, whilst destroying your self esteem by not respecting your needs. He sounds completely overbearing and engulfing. Get yourself some space and work on how to avoid these types in the future.

Fyi. I've been there and the best route is outta there.

momager1 · 08/01/2024 16:31

I have not read the whole thread, but I have read all the op's responses. I don't know if anyone else has said this, but, As soon as he gets his feet firmly planted under your table, your children will become his branch to whip you with. They will "demand" too much of your attention (as they fucking SHOULD) You will seem to love them more (as YOU fucking should) This man is not a good one. Get rid now... get rid FAST. Allow him no more access to your family or children . JUST NOT A GOOD MAN

Orio2023 · 08/01/2024 16:32

He sounds deranged. Get rid asap.

Iknowtheyareusefulstorage · 08/01/2024 16:39

Children have no control over whom their parent brings home to be/live with them.
It is up to you to protect them.

Dj2020 · 08/01/2024 16:45

It's given me anxiety just reading that. Absolutely get rid he will only get worse. Please don't stay with this controlling man.

NotManyDaysTilChristmas · 08/01/2024 16:48

All huge red flags - sorry but he’s a weirdo and you need to bin him off - I expect he’ll be a bit of a stalker when you end it though so be prepared.

bonzaitree · 08/01/2024 16:49

Dear god end this relationship asap. This is awful to read and I’m just so glad you’ve noticed after a few months.

Just call him now and say it’s not working out for you and you wish him well then block and delete his number. If he shows up at the house (which let’s face it he defo will) then call the police.

hopesmirage · 08/01/2024 16:52

Reading through your posts OP… I think I might be you 2 years on.

I had doubts early in my relationship because DP felt quite over-bearing with similarities to what you describe - love-bombing (stopped now!), pushed hard to sleepover, pushed to meet family, pushed to live together, “worries about me” when I’m out so likes me to stay in touch… unfortunately I ignored my doubts because in some ways it was flattering compared to my previous neglectful relationship and because we worked together so it would have been very awkward to break up. So I kept “waiting to see”.

Now it’s 2 years later and I’m having bigger doubts as he gets stressed and irritated very easily and it’s becoming difficult to live with. But now it’ll be much harder to leave as we’re living together and he knows all the family etc. So basically I’m replying to say - don’t ignore your doubts. Leave now before it gets harder and enjoy the time with your DC.

Switcher · 08/01/2024 16:52

Never contact him again, change locks, change phone, move house! Only half joking.

Mabelface · 08/01/2024 16:54

I'm just going to say well done. You're listening to your senses and you know that this man is dangerous. You've recognised the risk. You know what to do now. Be warned that he may bombard or hassle you, so be prepared to block him from everything and to call the police if it becomes scary.

EVHead · 08/01/2024 16:57

I read about a third of your OP and felt tightness in my chest - dump him please! And block his number. Phone the police if he turns up at your door.

heathcliffthe2nd · 08/01/2024 17:03

Run, please run. As fast as you can.
You could have been me 7 years ago. I ignored the red flags, and moved in with him. Biggest mistake of my life. I will forever regret exposing my children to such abuse (which it escalated to).
please leave him.

thisisasurvivor · 08/01/2024 17:05

Stressyfab · 08/01/2024 15:09

Your description had my skin crawling, he sounds incredibly controlling.

I feel physically sick

Milkand2sugarsplease · 08/01/2024 17:06

Eughhhh not a chance!!!

He's completely insecure and thinks if he weaves his way into your world - family life and daughter etc, he'll have you trapped and more difficult to extract yourself - so he can dial up the control even more

bendypines · 08/01/2024 17:08

I hope you are okay OP, and that you can see these replies. I'm assuming you aren't looking at your phone right now because he's there, but that you are able to catch up later.

PossumintheHouse · 08/01/2024 17:09

Good God no, OP. Every example you have given is toe-curling, but his attitude towards your phone is a very telling example of his tactics. You can’t use your phone when you’re in his presence, but you must be attached to it to serve his whims when you’re apart?

Hatty65 · 08/01/2024 17:11

You do know that you can end a relationship because you suddenly find his shoes annoying?

This guy sounds horrendous! You don't need to justify anything, or explain to us (or him) why you are finding him pushy, controlling or abusive. I mean, he clearly is! But even if he was the nicest man in the world and you were having doubts about how fast things are moving you can just dump!

Dump and block. Don't have a discussion. He will keep twisting things. Send a cheery 'Hey Pete - just not feeling this anymore, so I'm ending it. Cheers!'

Then block him.

UsedtobeYoung24 · 08/01/2024 17:13

This reminds me very much of a relationship I was in several years ago and I posted about it on here. When I finished it, he begged and pleaded then turned very nasty so beware. Have a plan for what to do if you end it and he turns up etc.

Opentooffers · 08/01/2024 17:14

Finish this ASAP, it's this kind of behaviour that stalkers display. That you haven't seen it until a long list has amassed, is of some concern, but hopefully you can see it for what it is now.
Until you have developed the courage of your own conviction, it's better you don't date. There's a lot of him pressuring you, and you bowing under the pressure, you need to be able to stand your ground with dates, until you can do that don't date or you'll get your boundaries trampled on.

Babysharkdoodoodood · 08/01/2024 17:14

Hatty65 · 08/01/2024 17:11

You do know that you can end a relationship because you suddenly find his shoes annoying?

This guy sounds horrendous! You don't need to justify anything, or explain to us (or him) why you are finding him pushy, controlling or abusive. I mean, he clearly is! But even if he was the nicest man in the world and you were having doubts about how fast things are moving you can just dump!

Dump and block. Don't have a discussion. He will keep twisting things. Send a cheery 'Hey Pete - just not feeling this anymore, so I'm ending it. Cheers!'

Then block him.

Just this. Don't explain or apologise. Dump and block. Do you have a ring camera?

Alloftheskies · 08/01/2024 17:14

Please leave this man it will only get worse. This isn't love, its all about him and his expectations and how you can make him feel. He doesn't care about you as an autonomous human being. It's all about his ego. This will wear you right down. Please get out now and don't be drawn back in. This isn't passion it's a draining burden.

AgnesX · 08/01/2024 17:16

I skim read the second part of this as the first half had me bouncing up and down in frustration. He sounds awful - gets upset at the drop of a hat, pushes boundaries, is plain pushy and manipulative.

Please get rid of him before he gets truly entrenched any more than he already is.

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