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Is this controlling behaviour?

142 replies

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:04

i think im in way over my head with a man i have been seeing for almost 7 months, and it's like a fog is lifting, but i could really use a sense check.

he insists on walking me to the door of everywhere i go when we have spent time together, including picking up my dc from school or playdates. it used to be sweet but now because i know if i said not to, because i wanted to walk by myself or walk quickly, he would take offence

he pressured me into meeting my mum when she was visiting; if i had said no, he would have been upset

we met up when we were both in a different part of the country visiting respective family over xmas, and he pressured me into taking 2 days and a night to visit his family during that time even though i wanted to compromise and just spend a day together

he doesn't like me using my phone when i am with him, even if we spend the whole day together- he says it's not respectful, and to say something like 'i just need to take this' if its something urgent

however if i don't respond to messages quickly or answer his call in time he says we have different needs for communication - we spent NYE with our respective families and he spent the next day upset with me as i didnt text him until 12.12 not at 12.00. i was with my dc (he doesnt have any). he says his whole family and his ex wife are very reliable with their response times and i'm not there for him

he gets upset whenever i have to leave no matter how much time we spend together (eg full days, or if we see each other for a few hours every day). im a single parent and i cant really do overnights unless faraway family visit me. but i have made the time to go away with him for weekends and a week, and the odd night or two, and i see him every single day as i know he wants to do that. quite a lot of the time when we say goodbye he seems pissed off and im like 'are you upset with me?' and he denies it but then he will send me a sad or annoyed text or email about how he doesnt feel i love him as much as he loves me, or how lonely he is. its predictable at this point.

this has also caused issues because he feels he should be more in my 'inner circle' as he calls it - his brothers were introduced to their partners dc very quickly (like weeks/a month) and even moved in, and i am cautious as my dc went through my and ex-h's divorce fairly recently and is very sensitive. he has met my dc casually but i am not looking to eg. have sleepovers when she is around, and he takes it very personally that he doesnt 'know her better' yet.
this also caused issues when we didnt spend christmas day together and he ignored me all day, didnt get me a present or card or say thanks for what i got him, and sent me a guilt tripping email about how upset it made him that we were apart

he doesn't like me talking about exes and has a hangup because months ago i reminisced that i used to love grungy guys with long hair and he still says to me almost every day 'you're going to leave me for some young guy with long hair' (he is 10y older and has short thinning hair). no matter how much i reassure that i fancy him it doesnt help. (however he is still 'best friends' with his ex-w and has said she still loves him, he is going to stay with her for a week to help her after surgery, etc...)

he wanted to move closer to me and when i said i wasnt sure as it was only 3 months in, he pressured me with guilt/withdrawal until i agreed, but then since moving he has wanted to spend a lot of time with me and as someone with a busy remote job and a school aged dc (he isnt working ATM and has no kids) it feels like so much pressure to meet his expectations of contact

whenever he watches a romantic movie he compares it to us but not in a nice way always - yesterday he watched a movie about love at first sight and texted me saying 'why didnt you have that with me when we first met' (we met in a work away week where i was very busy and only connected at the end of that week)

and the usual love bombing stuff... never felt this way before, our connection is so special, offers of commitment very quickly (he has mentioned moving in, marriage and babies a lot even though his own divorce is not finalised)

i feel like he gaslights me when i have tried to say i feel he is pushy and pressures me, he says he isn't at all, but i even get an anxious fight or flight response when we talk these days as i always feel he wants something from me, and he said that's just my anxiety and no one causes your anxiety, it comes from within.

god when written down it all sounds bad. i always used to date younger/more passive men and married one. at first i liked how forthright he was. but now it is making me feel drained. does he sound controlling?

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 17:50

Op, just end it with this man, today. It will only get harder and things will be worse if you continue to see him. If he bothers you after you end it, call the police immediately. You have got to take control here.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:50

i cant get a ring doorbell as i live in an apartment building where they are not allowed. i guess it is quite secure as the street door requires a key but i am on 5th floor and feel a little vulnerable as there is no peephole etc.
i have to hope that he will just eventually give up.

OP posts:
PossumintheHouse · 08/01/2024 17:51

criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:46

@CheesusWept he has family money and lives off a trust fund/investments. i think this is part of his entitlement. which clearly manifests in our relationship too...

if i did move with dc several 100 miles away back to my family at this point, is that incredibly selfish? dc is nearly 9, her school isnt great but she does have a few v good friends and likes it here. i should have moved back when ex-h and i split (hes not her bio dad and wouldnt have blocked it) but i stayed for her. now i just feel like i have reached a crunch point i cant even enjoy the lovely city we live in anymore. its like my body and brain refuse to put up with any more stress, and i fear for my own judgment and MH if i am getting in situations like this, its like im craving something and have ended up here.

Edited

I wouldn’t be too worried about a move at eight-nine years. Yes they leave their friends behind, but it’s an age where it is usually relatively easy to adapt and make new friends. I think it’s generally a lot worse when you move between 11-13ish ages.
It sounds like it isn’t just about this guy, but where you currently live and what you associate with where you are. Give serious thought to a move and a clean break.

MariaLuna · 08/01/2024 17:52

God he sounds utterly grim and super controlling. He's trying to mould you into what he wants, doesn't respect you are an autonomous being.

Life is so great without these kind of men in your life. Please get rid OP.
He's also a dreadful role model for your poor child.

orangejuicebrooklyn · 08/01/2024 18:01

You sound like you're anxious, fearful and unhappy. None of those things are the products of a safe and healthy relationship! A good relationship brings out the best in both of you, but in this scenario he's just getting more needy and controlling and that's making you more fearful.

I think you're right when you say you need some time to heal and figure out where the pattern is. Only you can decide what to do but if it were me, I'd be ending it, packing up stuff and moving nearer to family.

Also, does he have access to your phone? You might want to check he hasn't put a tracker app on it.

Mynaddmawr · 08/01/2024 18:03

I'm so sorry you're in this situation- he sounds horribly controlling. You deserve better than this ❤

Babyshambles90 · 08/01/2024 18:05

Go easy on yourself with the self blame, OP. It’s hard to spot some of these traits at first. It doesn’t mean you’re a magnet for abusive or coercive relationships, or you should be by yourself forever, or that he’s going to turn into a stalker. You gave someone new a try, it was good at first, your alarm bells started ringing after he showed more of his true colours, and you’re ready to end things. That sounds pretty balanced to me, there’s a lot there to be proud of. I’d try to end it as amicably as you can simply because it will reduce your anxiety a bit - if you can make it a you not him thing, you have so many demands on you, you just can’t give the relationship the attention you know it needs, etc, and hopefully you can walk away without too much drama. If things start getting weird come back on here, people will have loads of advice and recommendations. If you can, take a bit of time to think through what happens next - you don’t want to rush the decisions, but generally I think kids are happier when their parents are happier so if that means a move, as long as it’s not a crucial year school wise, your DC will probably adjust ok. Deep breath and well done for spotting the direction your relationship was taking, and knowing that you don’t deserve any more crap.

thinkhorsesnotzebra · 08/01/2024 18:35

I don't really have anything to add as you have had a lot of solid advice here and it sounds like you know what you need to do anyway.

I just wanted to say that you should not you feel guilty about anything. You have protected your DC and you are listening to your instincts to start to protect yourself.

It sounds like you have survived a lot so far in your life and you have the strength to survive this too. You might have a couple of scratches (a lot of us do) but you are definitely not broken.

Stay safe and look after yourself

J316 · 08/01/2024 18:49

A new start sounds just like what you and your daughter need ☺️💛

Daftapath · 08/01/2024 19:35

Does he have keys to your house op?

Bananalanacake · 08/01/2024 19:48

Well done on not letting him move in with you. The fact he doesn't work means he's got more time on his hands to check up on you, I would also think about moving.

brainworms · 08/01/2024 19:51

DUMP HIM.

DameKatyDenisesClagnuts · 08/01/2024 20:13

Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 15:16

Op, honestly, what in the fuck are you even doing with this man?

He sounds horrible. Desperate, whinging, insecure, ridiculously controlling and absolutely insufferable. It's shocking that you're still with him and subjecting your child to him.

Get rid of him already.

I mean this just nails it.

rainbowsparkle28 · 08/01/2024 20:17

End it and get out now.

dlago · 08/01/2024 20:23

Please do a Claire's law submission to the police. His behaviour is way off and he sounds like a potential stalker

Fuzziduck · 08/01/2024 20:24

A clear and concise ending message is required.
You should not see this man in person again.

Namechange666 · 08/01/2024 20:25

Move back. Do it. You need your family about. Your daughter is young enough to start again.

Be with your family.

WilloTheWispy · 08/01/2024 20:33

does he sound controlling?
Yes.

Leave ASAP

jannier · 08/01/2024 20:38

Just reading the first half was exhausting couldn't read more. Get rid he's abusive

humus · 08/01/2024 20:42

He sounds incredibly controlling and like he’s taking over your life on a very short time.

Didydani · 08/01/2024 20:46

He sounds like a total nut job op

Cherrysoup · 08/01/2024 20:52

He sounds obsessive and weird, very over invested. If your child is only 9 and work allows, could you move away?

2Old2Tango · 08/01/2024 20:53

OP, if you stay with this man you will become an anxious nervous shell of a person and open yourself up to a lifetime of silent treatment and criticism if you don't live up to his deranged ideal. Once he's wangled himself in further he'll no doubt start treating your DC in a similar fashion, so get away for them if not for yourself.

If your lease is up then moving would be a great idea. In a few years your DC will be starting secondary school and they often make new friends then anyway, so I'm sure she'll cope ok with the move. Is there any family you could move in with temporarily while you look for a new place for you and DC? Even the Airbnb you suggest would be better than staying in the same area as this man. He sounds nuts enough to not take no for an answer.

January2024 · 08/01/2024 21:18

Are you going out with my ex? Just posted my own thread tonight and mine used to do all those to me. Run, far and fast. I stuck it for nearly 2 years and made me anxious and a shadow of myself. Don't make the same mistake I did.

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