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Is this controlling behaviour?

142 replies

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:04

i think im in way over my head with a man i have been seeing for almost 7 months, and it's like a fog is lifting, but i could really use a sense check.

he insists on walking me to the door of everywhere i go when we have spent time together, including picking up my dc from school or playdates. it used to be sweet but now because i know if i said not to, because i wanted to walk by myself or walk quickly, he would take offence

he pressured me into meeting my mum when she was visiting; if i had said no, he would have been upset

we met up when we were both in a different part of the country visiting respective family over xmas, and he pressured me into taking 2 days and a night to visit his family during that time even though i wanted to compromise and just spend a day together

he doesn't like me using my phone when i am with him, even if we spend the whole day together- he says it's not respectful, and to say something like 'i just need to take this' if its something urgent

however if i don't respond to messages quickly or answer his call in time he says we have different needs for communication - we spent NYE with our respective families and he spent the next day upset with me as i didnt text him until 12.12 not at 12.00. i was with my dc (he doesnt have any). he says his whole family and his ex wife are very reliable with their response times and i'm not there for him

he gets upset whenever i have to leave no matter how much time we spend together (eg full days, or if we see each other for a few hours every day). im a single parent and i cant really do overnights unless faraway family visit me. but i have made the time to go away with him for weekends and a week, and the odd night or two, and i see him every single day as i know he wants to do that. quite a lot of the time when we say goodbye he seems pissed off and im like 'are you upset with me?' and he denies it but then he will send me a sad or annoyed text or email about how he doesnt feel i love him as much as he loves me, or how lonely he is. its predictable at this point.

this has also caused issues because he feels he should be more in my 'inner circle' as he calls it - his brothers were introduced to their partners dc very quickly (like weeks/a month) and even moved in, and i am cautious as my dc went through my and ex-h's divorce fairly recently and is very sensitive. he has met my dc casually but i am not looking to eg. have sleepovers when she is around, and he takes it very personally that he doesnt 'know her better' yet.
this also caused issues when we didnt spend christmas day together and he ignored me all day, didnt get me a present or card or say thanks for what i got him, and sent me a guilt tripping email about how upset it made him that we were apart

he doesn't like me talking about exes and has a hangup because months ago i reminisced that i used to love grungy guys with long hair and he still says to me almost every day 'you're going to leave me for some young guy with long hair' (he is 10y older and has short thinning hair). no matter how much i reassure that i fancy him it doesnt help. (however he is still 'best friends' with his ex-w and has said she still loves him, he is going to stay with her for a week to help her after surgery, etc...)

he wanted to move closer to me and when i said i wasnt sure as it was only 3 months in, he pressured me with guilt/withdrawal until i agreed, but then since moving he has wanted to spend a lot of time with me and as someone with a busy remote job and a school aged dc (he isnt working ATM and has no kids) it feels like so much pressure to meet his expectations of contact

whenever he watches a romantic movie he compares it to us but not in a nice way always - yesterday he watched a movie about love at first sight and texted me saying 'why didnt you have that with me when we first met' (we met in a work away week where i was very busy and only connected at the end of that week)

and the usual love bombing stuff... never felt this way before, our connection is so special, offers of commitment very quickly (he has mentioned moving in, marriage and babies a lot even though his own divorce is not finalised)

i feel like he gaslights me when i have tried to say i feel he is pushy and pressures me, he says he isn't at all, but i even get an anxious fight or flight response when we talk these days as i always feel he wants something from me, and he said that's just my anxiety and no one causes your anxiety, it comes from within.

god when written down it all sounds bad. i always used to date younger/more passive men and married one. at first i liked how forthright he was. but now it is making me feel drained. does he sound controlling?

OP posts:
criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:17

hi - i am keeping on top of replies, feel more anxious now tbh. he can be really lovely and caring and he really supports and likes me in some ways which has made me overlook a lot but there is def a reason why i have not gone 'all in' with the romantic moving in together, involving him in dc life etc because it just didnt feel right. i get the ick when he is so needy and some of the comments he makes, when i used to really fancy and like him. i just feel nervous a lot of the time like i know today because i havent said lets meet up (i wanted to think this through and have some work to do anyway) and i havent emailed or texted except once, he will make a big thing of it next time i see him, but that just doesnt seem normal? its all so intense and i guess i feel bad because at first i liked that. now i feel like i want to hide. i feel like i dont know which way is up. he doesnt have kids, a ft job, any responsibilities and i feel i am his whole focus.
i guess i also feel very down about all this because it seems like i have gone from one EA relationship to another, as pp have said. why? i almost want to go back and think over my marriage and why i fell hook line and sinker for this intense guy after leaving that situation. my ex-h's moods, sulks and threats to leave really invoked a kind of trauma response in me after a few years and i never felt relaxed and a lot of resentment built up, even when things improved between us after counselling, i never really loved him again but i felt stuck as a people pleaser and didnt want to break up dd family or even hurt my ex h despite how he had hurt me. i felt stifled and i gave up my career to move with his job and he took me for granted. but it wasnt this extent of control nor was it physical abuse so i didnt realise how much it had affected me. its like i learned to detach and endure anxiety and stress, almost disassociated.i feel this is how i have ended up in the place with a new(ish) relationship where i have been in denial and in a fog. its like my brain is broken.

OP posts:
crowsfeet57 · 08/01/2024 17:17

I'm sorry OP. This could turn dangerous very quickly. You need to end this.

Daftapath · 08/01/2024 17:17

Please end this relationship.

I predict that he will not go easily. In which case, let your friends and family know that you have ended it and don't hesitate to call the police if he won't leave you alone. He will probably try to get you to meet him to discuss, ie wear you down, as that has worked with you in the past. You do not owe him a conversation (in person or via phone) nor have to justify your decision. You are within your rights to end a relationship for any reason or no reason.

Pp suggestion of a ring doorbell is a good idea. Also, ensure your dc knows to never go anywhere with him.

Good luck

MILTOBE · 08/01/2024 17:17

You haven't said one good thing about him. Everything you have said makes him sound like an utter creep. A controlling, sulky creep. I don't know how you can stand to be near him.

Martinii · 08/01/2024 17:18

This is just like an ex of mine. Get out now OP! I made the mistake of living together, and he was a controlling nightmare to the point I was walking on eggshells in my own home. You will end up a shell of your former self, and it takes a long time to untangle their web.

Be aware he might start threatening suicide if you break up with him (it's all nonsense) and/or turn very nasty. The only reason they are so desperate to rush into your inner circle is to gain control.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 17:21

Op, please, stop trying to analyse this. The 'whys' don't matter, the only thing that does is that you know this relationship is all wrong. He's all wrong. Stop going on about it, be decisive and end it, right now. Do not ever meet up with him again. You do not owe him any explanation and he is not entitled to know your reasoning. Just end it already.

MILTOBE · 08/01/2024 17:23

It's pretty clear you need to have counselling, OP. Why not give this one the boot and make a decision not to get involved with anyone for quite a while, while you have some therapy?

Treesinthewind · 08/01/2024 17:27

Please please leave. This can only get worse.

Martinii · 08/01/2024 17:27

MILTOBE · 08/01/2024 17:23

It's pretty clear you need to have counselling, OP. Why not give this one the boot and make a decision not to get involved with anyone for quite a while, while you have some therapy?

This is really good advice OP.

I had three abusive relationships in a row, each time thinking that person couldn't possibly ever be abusive with the reasoning of they were nothing like my ex. The devil wears many disguises remember.

Since being single for a few years and completely happy on my own, I wouldn't entertain any of the crap those guys put me through and would be strong enough to speak up early on, unlike before.

ScabbyHorse · 08/01/2024 17:29

I'd say dump him and in the future find a nice good looking grungey younger guy with long hair who you fancy and who makes you feel good...

Iamnuts · 08/01/2024 17:29

The hills are over there. Run for them.

Orio2023 · 08/01/2024 17:30

There’s no way this pathetic creep doesn’t push your boundaries in other ways. He’s exactly the type who would sulk and whine if you don’t have enough sex with him.

He makes me feel utterly sick.

Phone the police op and tell them you might need help, that you’re breaking up with someone who is using coercive control. Then do it by text and don’t hesitate to ring the police on him.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:32

i do feel like i just want to be on my own now. i am so tired of having anxiety attacks over men, it has been my life for the past 7+ years, and trying to keep strong and happy for my dc has been very difficult in that respect. i have ignored a lot of the trauma in my childhood and my teens/early 20s (emotional and sexual) and ended up here. i feel so guilty and low. i want to break the cycle. i think i need to end it with this guy, but i am even scared to do that, of how he might react, especially from what some posters have said here. i dont know how i would cope with stalking or him turning up. my lease is up so i am actually considering moving, even just to an airbnb, as this has all made me want to move closer to family for the first time in a long time (i moved far for ex-h's job). i just feel guilty about uprooting dc. but it seems like something has to give and i am just not in a good place right now and need to focus on healing and just the 2 of us. one thing i can say is i am proud of myself for not involving him in dc life. it was hard to withstand the pressure but i kept her safe. now i need to continue to do that.

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Moier · 08/01/2024 17:32

My gosh.. I'd be frightened to death.. he's jealous... he's controlling.. he can't cope anytime without you.
Finish it/ block him/ I've a feeling he could be dangerous.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:32

@Orio2023 actually the opposite he has tended to withhold sex. i know that is also a red flag sometimes.

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CheekyHobson · 08/01/2024 17:34

You actually sound super self-aware and while more counselling never hurts, I think you already know what you need to do.

You just need to believe in yourself and have the self-confidence to validate your own feelings that this man is being controlling and making you feel uncomfortable and unhappy.

You've asked us all what we think (which means you're still seeking validation from other women, rather than from your partner, because he's invalidating your feelings, rather than validating yourself) but the truth is you don't actually need all of us to confirm to you what you clearly already know.

Channellingsophistication · 08/01/2024 17:34

You need to end this relationship straight away. You have no control over your own life. He tries to make out he’s caring, but he’s not. He’s controlling and manipulating everything that you do.

DesuOwl · 08/01/2024 17:35

He sounds like an absolute creep. Definite "nice guy" vibes.

bendypines · 08/01/2024 17:35

This thread and all the posts are unanimous OP, and we all say you need to end this relationship as soon as possible.

I know it sounds scary, and people are right to warn you that he might turn nasty, but they are saying that so you can be prepared in advance for the fallout.

PossumintheHouse · 08/01/2024 17:36

OP, you have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. Totally understandable that you’re worried about his reaction, I think most people would feel exactly the same given his intensity.
If you’ve already been considering a move to be closer to family, I’d take this as the opportunity to pursue that, and get away from this horrible, controlling man.

Martinii · 08/01/2024 17:37

criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:32

i do feel like i just want to be on my own now. i am so tired of having anxiety attacks over men, it has been my life for the past 7+ years, and trying to keep strong and happy for my dc has been very difficult in that respect. i have ignored a lot of the trauma in my childhood and my teens/early 20s (emotional and sexual) and ended up here. i feel so guilty and low. i want to break the cycle. i think i need to end it with this guy, but i am even scared to do that, of how he might react, especially from what some posters have said here. i dont know how i would cope with stalking or him turning up. my lease is up so i am actually considering moving, even just to an airbnb, as this has all made me want to move closer to family for the first time in a long time (i moved far for ex-h's job). i just feel guilty about uprooting dc. but it seems like something has to give and i am just not in a good place right now and need to focus on healing and just the 2 of us. one thing i can say is i am proud of myself for not involving him in dc life. it was hard to withstand the pressure but i kept her safe. now i need to continue to do that.

Once they realise you aren't backing down or responding to any communication, they actually move on (to the next) scarily quickly (which also makes you realise how their initial love bombing was all a load of tosh). It's like they need supply! So if you ignore any pleads and guilt trips, as in completely ignore and never respond, he will realise his supply has gone, give up and catch on to the next.

CheesusWept · 08/01/2024 17:39

Why doesn’t he work?

He sounds awful. You know you need to dump him. You will be a shell of yourself if you don’t.

SamW98 · 08/01/2024 17:45

OP please end this relationship and spend time on your own. Being single isn’t sad and lonely, it is an enriching experience that helps you understand so much better. I guarantee being single for a period of time, however long it is, you’ll come out stronger, happier and more comfortable in your own skin. And so much better at sporting red flags and putting strong boundaries in place.

criscringel · 08/01/2024 17:46

@CheesusWept he has family money and lives off a trust fund/investments. i think this is part of his entitlement. which clearly manifests in our relationship too...

if i did move with dc several 100 miles away back to my family at this point, is that incredibly selfish? dc is nearly 9, her school isnt great but she does have a few v good friends and likes it here. i should have moved back when ex-h and i split (hes not her bio dad and wouldnt have blocked it) but i stayed for her. now i just feel like i have reached a crunch point i cant even enjoy the lovely city we live in anymore. its like my body and brain refuse to put up with any more stress, and i fear for my own judgment and MH if i am getting in situations like this, its like im craving something and have ended up here.

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ClaudiaWinklemansEyeliner · 08/01/2024 17:47

It can be as easy as sending him a text- "I'm afraid this isn't working out for me and I don't want to see you any more. I wish you all the best"

And then block, before taking some of the safe guarding actions suggested above.

You don't owe him anymore than that.

The knot you feel in your stomach will feel a lot better once you've done it.