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Is this controlling behaviour?

142 replies

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:04

i think im in way over my head with a man i have been seeing for almost 7 months, and it's like a fog is lifting, but i could really use a sense check.

he insists on walking me to the door of everywhere i go when we have spent time together, including picking up my dc from school or playdates. it used to be sweet but now because i know if i said not to, because i wanted to walk by myself or walk quickly, he would take offence

he pressured me into meeting my mum when she was visiting; if i had said no, he would have been upset

we met up when we were both in a different part of the country visiting respective family over xmas, and he pressured me into taking 2 days and a night to visit his family during that time even though i wanted to compromise and just spend a day together

he doesn't like me using my phone when i am with him, even if we spend the whole day together- he says it's not respectful, and to say something like 'i just need to take this' if its something urgent

however if i don't respond to messages quickly or answer his call in time he says we have different needs for communication - we spent NYE with our respective families and he spent the next day upset with me as i didnt text him until 12.12 not at 12.00. i was with my dc (he doesnt have any). he says his whole family and his ex wife are very reliable with their response times and i'm not there for him

he gets upset whenever i have to leave no matter how much time we spend together (eg full days, or if we see each other for a few hours every day). im a single parent and i cant really do overnights unless faraway family visit me. but i have made the time to go away with him for weekends and a week, and the odd night or two, and i see him every single day as i know he wants to do that. quite a lot of the time when we say goodbye he seems pissed off and im like 'are you upset with me?' and he denies it but then he will send me a sad or annoyed text or email about how he doesnt feel i love him as much as he loves me, or how lonely he is. its predictable at this point.

this has also caused issues because he feels he should be more in my 'inner circle' as he calls it - his brothers were introduced to their partners dc very quickly (like weeks/a month) and even moved in, and i am cautious as my dc went through my and ex-h's divorce fairly recently and is very sensitive. he has met my dc casually but i am not looking to eg. have sleepovers when she is around, and he takes it very personally that he doesnt 'know her better' yet.
this also caused issues when we didnt spend christmas day together and he ignored me all day, didnt get me a present or card or say thanks for what i got him, and sent me a guilt tripping email about how upset it made him that we were apart

he doesn't like me talking about exes and has a hangup because months ago i reminisced that i used to love grungy guys with long hair and he still says to me almost every day 'you're going to leave me for some young guy with long hair' (he is 10y older and has short thinning hair). no matter how much i reassure that i fancy him it doesnt help. (however he is still 'best friends' with his ex-w and has said she still loves him, he is going to stay with her for a week to help her after surgery, etc...)

he wanted to move closer to me and when i said i wasnt sure as it was only 3 months in, he pressured me with guilt/withdrawal until i agreed, but then since moving he has wanted to spend a lot of time with me and as someone with a busy remote job and a school aged dc (he isnt working ATM and has no kids) it feels like so much pressure to meet his expectations of contact

whenever he watches a romantic movie he compares it to us but not in a nice way always - yesterday he watched a movie about love at first sight and texted me saying 'why didnt you have that with me when we first met' (we met in a work away week where i was very busy and only connected at the end of that week)

and the usual love bombing stuff... never felt this way before, our connection is so special, offers of commitment very quickly (he has mentioned moving in, marriage and babies a lot even though his own divorce is not finalised)

i feel like he gaslights me when i have tried to say i feel he is pushy and pressures me, he says he isn't at all, but i even get an anxious fight or flight response when we talk these days as i always feel he wants something from me, and he said that's just my anxiety and no one causes your anxiety, it comes from within.

god when written down it all sounds bad. i always used to date younger/more passive men and married one. at first i liked how forthright he was. but now it is making me feel drained. does he sound controlling?

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 08/01/2024 15:38

Op, this man is dangerous, he truly is. He is systematically chipping away at any self-worth or boundaries you may have left, and it won't be long before he is controlling every aspect of your life. All of the examples you gave, none of them are normal. No decent man behaves this way or tries to control their partner like this.

I fear that you have no idea what a healthy relationship looks like, and this makes you extremely vulnerable, and men like this can sniff you out a mile away. You need to end this relationship and not start another until you figure out why you've allowed yourself to get into two abusive relationships.

Text this man right now, tell him it's over and block him.

LakeTiticaca · 08/01/2024 15:41

He sounds needy, insecure and very controlling. Honestly I felt drained just reading all this. How do you tolerate this shit day in, day out?
Get rid before it escalates even more

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 08/01/2024 15:41

Yes.

Dump him OP.

GrumpyMoose · 08/01/2024 15:42

He is 10 years older so had longer at life to have kids but didn't and pushes to know your daughter with sleepovers. Thats creepy to me.

He is clingy, too intense, controlling and insecure. You know you need to end it.

Okitten · 08/01/2024 15:43

My chest is tight reading this … get out, but get out safely.

JustAboutHangingInThere · 08/01/2024 15:54

Yes

FedUpMadam · 08/01/2024 16:00

I'd definitely end this relationship, he sounds awful
And this is few months in , it should be fun , he will only get worse .

I'd end this today by text and block him on everything and if he shows up call police OP as he might be dangerous

blacksax · 08/01/2024 16:02

He is extremely controlling and coercive. Get out now, before it is too late.

Terrribletwos · 08/01/2024 16:03

Yes, most of the examples you gave are awful controlling, dangerous red flags but the most alarming was the insistence of seeing your kids and staying over, that really stood out and would be extremely worrying for me.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 08/01/2024 16:03

Run. Fast. Huge, massive red flags all over. I shuddered just reading about him. Your psycho radar is definitely very faulty if you are even questioning whether you should dump him or not.

SequentialAnalyst · 08/01/2024 16:05

Get out now.

There may be reasons why he is like this, but they do not excuse his behaviour.

JimBeamCoke · 08/01/2024 16:05

The more he knows about you then the more control he has. If he knows or gets on well with your mum or your child then it is harder for you to leave. It is the only reason why he would insist against your wishes. It is control just the same as walking to your door or insuring you reply straight away. He might be nuts or actually very low self-esteem and doesn’t want risk anything coming between you but it’s smothering and will only get worse. Imagine him in your house staying, and wondering where you have been, why you’re 10 minutes later back from your mums, asking why you spoke to that man at the school, why are you looking at your phone. It is no future. Luckily you’ve seen the behaviour now and you can escape.

Guiltypleasures001 · 08/01/2024 16:07

He sounds dangerous and Ide be doing a is it Claire's Law? Check on him
I think he's going to be hard to get rid of, I'm not sure you see the full picture here op. Which is hard when you are in the middle of it I know

Nanny0gg · 08/01/2024 16:09

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:04

i think im in way over my head with a man i have been seeing for almost 7 months, and it's like a fog is lifting, but i could really use a sense check.

he insists on walking me to the door of everywhere i go when we have spent time together, including picking up my dc from school or playdates. it used to be sweet but now because i know if i said not to, because i wanted to walk by myself or walk quickly, he would take offence

he pressured me into meeting my mum when she was visiting; if i had said no, he would have been upset

we met up when we were both in a different part of the country visiting respective family over xmas, and he pressured me into taking 2 days and a night to visit his family during that time even though i wanted to compromise and just spend a day together

he doesn't like me using my phone when i am with him, even if we spend the whole day together- he says it's not respectful, and to say something like 'i just need to take this' if its something urgent

however if i don't respond to messages quickly or answer his call in time he says we have different needs for communication - we spent NYE with our respective families and he spent the next day upset with me as i didnt text him until 12.12 not at 12.00. i was with my dc (he doesnt have any). he says his whole family and his ex wife are very reliable with their response times and i'm not there for him

he gets upset whenever i have to leave no matter how much time we spend together (eg full days, or if we see each other for a few hours every day). im a single parent and i cant really do overnights unless faraway family visit me. but i have made the time to go away with him for weekends and a week, and the odd night or two, and i see him every single day as i know he wants to do that. quite a lot of the time when we say goodbye he seems pissed off and im like 'are you upset with me?' and he denies it but then he will send me a sad or annoyed text or email about how he doesnt feel i love him as much as he loves me, or how lonely he is. its predictable at this point.

this has also caused issues because he feels he should be more in my 'inner circle' as he calls it - his brothers were introduced to their partners dc very quickly (like weeks/a month) and even moved in, and i am cautious as my dc went through my and ex-h's divorce fairly recently and is very sensitive. he has met my dc casually but i am not looking to eg. have sleepovers when she is around, and he takes it very personally that he doesnt 'know her better' yet.
this also caused issues when we didnt spend christmas day together and he ignored me all day, didnt get me a present or card or say thanks for what i got him, and sent me a guilt tripping email about how upset it made him that we were apart

he doesn't like me talking about exes and has a hangup because months ago i reminisced that i used to love grungy guys with long hair and he still says to me almost every day 'you're going to leave me for some young guy with long hair' (he is 10y older and has short thinning hair). no matter how much i reassure that i fancy him it doesnt help. (however he is still 'best friends' with his ex-w and has said she still loves him, he is going to stay with her for a week to help her after surgery, etc...)

he wanted to move closer to me and when i said i wasnt sure as it was only 3 months in, he pressured me with guilt/withdrawal until i agreed, but then since moving he has wanted to spend a lot of time with me and as someone with a busy remote job and a school aged dc (he isnt working ATM and has no kids) it feels like so much pressure to meet his expectations of contact

whenever he watches a romantic movie he compares it to us but not in a nice way always - yesterday he watched a movie about love at first sight and texted me saying 'why didnt you have that with me when we first met' (we met in a work away week where i was very busy and only connected at the end of that week)

and the usual love bombing stuff... never felt this way before, our connection is so special, offers of commitment very quickly (he has mentioned moving in, marriage and babies a lot even though his own divorce is not finalised)

i feel like he gaslights me when i have tried to say i feel he is pushy and pressures me, he says he isn't at all, but i even get an anxious fight or flight response when we talk these days as i always feel he wants something from me, and he said that's just my anxiety and no one causes your anxiety, it comes from within.

god when written down it all sounds bad. i always used to date younger/more passive men and married one. at first i liked how forthright he was. but now it is making me feel drained. does he sound controlling?

I didn't need to read all of it

He's awful.

He would be a true nightmare if you got any more involved

Keep your DC away and dump him now, please

CaramelMac · 08/01/2024 16:10

You’re doing things you don’t feel comfortable doing to avoid an unpleasant reaction from him 🚩

He sounds very controlling and it will only get worse, he’s pushing you to see how much you’ll give.

In this instance I’d block him and move on because I can guarantee if you try to dump him nicely he’ll see it as a challenge and try to convince you to change your mind.

I dumped one boyfriend because after a few weeks he told me he loved me and then got whined and ‘upset’ when I didn’t say I loved him back, and I dumped another when I asked him to let go of my hand because I needed to get something from my bag and he wouldn’t let go, it was the first signs of being controlling and you have to jump ship at the first sign or it will only get worse.

Nanny0gg · 08/01/2024 16:10

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:26

@Terrribletwos why do you think that? he really does paint all his requests/demands/needs as normal and like im the one who doesnt get it, so i think i have been worn down here. it really does feel like a fog is lifting.

Nothing he is asking is 'normal'
And nor is he.

Please dump and block

JollyJanuary · 08/01/2024 16:11

Pick up your DC and run away. He sounds completely deranged. It does not matter what he says, what his motivations are, what his history is. You do not need to explain yourself to him or justify your decision. Protect yourself and your DC.

Nanny0gg · 08/01/2024 16:12

criscringel · 08/01/2024 15:18

the phone stuff is too much right? i am a typical millenial and in the course of a day i spend time texting family/friends, arranging dc pickups if she is on playdates, looking stuff up, checking work emails or slack, checking directions on maps.... im not a scroller or rude, but it really annoys him. i feel i am having to change my behaviour even in a small way. i also get nervous if he calls me and i cant pick up as i know he will be pissed off.

yesterday when we said goodbye he went to kiss me when i was talking and he was like 'dont turn your head away when i kiss you, i dont like that'.

he is currently being off with me even though i helped him with his CV for 2 hours yesterday.

it just all feels like so much.

He's making my flesh crawl

Whiskeypowers · 08/01/2024 16:13

If you have to ask you probably already have your answer. He is deeply controlling and manipulative and you don’t need to even read to the end of the first couple of paragraphs to ascertain that. Be careful how you end things and make sure you are safe.

Needtogrowsproutsfordecember · 08/01/2024 16:13

7 months in he shouldn't even know your dc..... Keep him the fuck away from them. Before ss are involved..

fishesdrivecars678 · 08/01/2024 16:15

He's :-

  1. Very, very high maintenance.

  2. Controlling.

  3. His demands are selfish, you have a child who needs you.

  4. Is trying to pressure you to pull away from communicating with others - MASSIVE RED FLAG, re the incidents with your phone.

It will only get worse unless you drop him like a lead balloon. Don't let him separate you from your child and your family.

Angelsrose · 08/01/2024 16:16

Sadly sounds like you will have to split from this partner as he is showing some very concerning traits. Good luck op.

northernlight20 · 08/01/2024 16:16

wth have i just read? get rid asap!

tattygrl · 08/01/2024 16:17

A person doesn't have to be a deliberately malicious, calculating bully to be a controlling partner. It doesn't matter, in a way, whether he is calculatedly, systematically trying to trap you in a controlling relationship, or whether he's just a person who is clingy, needy, insecure and possessive: the result is the same, and it's ALL unacceptable and dangerous. You need to get out before this treatment does you any more damage.

Roundtable83 · 08/01/2024 16:20

He sounds controlling, manipulative, needy and gross! Get rid.