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Partner broke up with me due to midlife crisis/commitment fears....my world is shattered. Any way to fix things?

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BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 18:22

Hi all, my first post here (Hello!) and was wondering if anyone had any advice/support/what to do on a heart-breaking situation. I'm absolutely broken and devastated over this. I'm sorry its long......sit and have a cuppa, its quite a read!

I met my partner when I was 34 and he was 40. We were together 4 years until its ended. We were both unmarried and didn't have children.....right from the get go it was amazing. We connected on every level from a huge passion about music, food, similar specialised careers and of course an amazing love life. I know this sounds crazy but I still recall now the first time I met him before we even spoke having this ultra weird feeling I've never experienced before where it just hit me out of nowhere that this man was going to be in my life and thinking 'bloody hell there you are, where on earth have you been?'

I have had a few long term relationships prior to this spanning 4/5 years or so but never had anything like the attraction and connection I had with him. His previous dating history I should have been a red flag.....longest prior to me was 14 months although I put it down to his career choice and the fact he has spent his 20s/30s on training rotas all around the country.

Anyway........4 amazing, happy years together. No arguments, ultra secure and all our mutual friends (we work in the same industry) all said how I was the thing he needed in life and were so happy we got together. We both have separate hobbies which allowed us healthy time apart from each other and when we were together everything was fun, light and easy.

After a year or so I was pretty much living in the apartment he rented (bar having a night or 2 a week at my mums place as she is on her own and he would go visit his parents - they are a very close family unit) Everything was looking great. He would often initiate conversations about what life would be like when we're married, who we would invite from work and even down to conversations about picking our first dance songs whilst listening to the CD's over a bottle of wine......we also had conversations about starting a family and picking names of our children, we were so excited about it.

I've since found out he also said these things to my family and friends too about all his plans for our future sob

This year thoughts turned to buying our own place together, leave the rented flat and he would sell a property he rents out in order to do it. This seems to be when the wheels started falling off.......the sale was fraught with complications which he was getting extremely stressed with. He also has a very high powered job which he started getting incredibly stressed with and even started saying he didn't want to do anymore and his parents who he is ultra close with both suffered from some health problems. I would always sit and listen and tried to reassure him that everything will be okay and that its just a rough period of stress. He then started coming home saying odd things like he was sick of people at work asking him when he's going to get married. Ouch. Again, not putting pressure on him I just tried to say it was just people being curious and not to worry about what they're saying and they were probably just trying to find 'nice' stuff to talk about with him although he was making hints all summer to me about engagement rings and I was going to suggest starting to try for our family once all the property and health stress was sorted.

I had a week or so at my parents place to help provide care whilst they were poorly and then all of a sudden just got this horrible shift from him. He was cold and distant all week, he didn't come to visit and I just knew something was up. I got the dreaded 'we need to talk' over the phone and the only reasons I got were 'somethings missing' 'I'm not making you happy' 'He felt pressured for marriage (not from me?!)' and then bizarrely he wants to breakup because he wants to get married and start a family??

I tried explaining that 4 years into a relationship (which he hasn't experienced before) that things change and its not all like when you first meet someone and that its honestly completely normal to worry about doubts before making big decisions.

I honestly don't recognise the man he's turned into and how he can just throw away our lovely life we had together with so many shared family, friends and all those exciting plans for the future? Its like he's had a complete personality transplant. I'm 38 now and worry about my future a lot. He and mutual friends have all reassured me there is no one else.

He completely cut me off, blocked my phone and was ignoring me at work until very recently where 4 months on he's started saying Hello when he passes me.
Co-workers say he's been quiet, miserable, not his normal self and looks tired and run down. He's also apparently been saying he's worried he's going to end up a lonely old bachelor and that he wants to be on his own so he can avoid the drama (?!) of a relationship for a bit?

What does everyone think might be going on here?

This breakup has devastated me and I've taken it really hard but thankfully in a much better place now from how distraught I was at the beginning. I love this man dearly and we had such a bright future and I'd love to be able to sort things out. I really hope he can find whatever it is he's 'missing'

I'm missing my lover, best friend, our future and I just want to go home 😓

I'm doing my best with everything else, working hard, postgrad study, hobbies, socialising etc etc, all the things they say you should do in a breakup. Friends and family give the usual advice......'move on' 'focus on you' etc but I'm not finding that incredibly helpful right now, trust me, if I could stop feeling like s**t I would do!

Anyone have any insights? any way of repairing this or any way to make myself better and try and forget him? My whole world and future as I knew it has just gone poof and its so disorientating and scary. I really, truly love this man and I just cant make head nor tail as to what on earth has happened.

Thankyou for listening.

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tortiecat · 04/01/2024 20:37

Sending you a handhold, OP Flowers
I don't know this man so I am not going to second guess why on earth he has behaved like this - it could be one of or a combination of the things you and those close to you think, or something completely different. It's perfectly reasonable that at your ages and after a 4 year relationship that you would get a place together and that you might properly settle down - what I am trying to say is that you deserved and do deserve better, and this ridiculousness is on him. I do understand how much this hurts, I really truly do, but keep doing "all the things" as you say: wounds heal only by degrees - heartbreak does not disappear overnight much as we would like it to, but hang in there and there will be brighter times ahead. I hope your Mum is better.

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 20:38

CatWithNoTeeth · 04/01/2024 20:30

I have been through similar recently. It was like he became a different person. It wasn't another woman he just switched seemingly out of the blue. It has taken the best part of a year for me to recover and still I have sad days. The hurt and longing and loss was so deep that it has definitely changed me as a person for the better, I think. I'm stronger now. I was forced to question my own worth, then eventually to realise my own worth. What I realised about him is that he is self-absorbed (to the point of tedium sometimes), fussy, unrealistic, somewhat deluded about a few things, disconnected from his own emotions, reasonably uninterested in me other than an accessory to himself, and he absolutely wouldn't be there for me during hard times. That he was unique and charming and sexy and talented and funny and driven and clever, well, those are the things I'm trying to forget. My heart isn't 100% listening to my head yet but it is better. You will feel better and move on but it takes time. I wouldn't wish this feeling on anyone-- except maybe on him!

Edited

Gosh - this sounds eerily similar to my situation. I must say the OCD/fussiness is something that did grate but I was happy to accept that as ‘him’

but yes agree….the charming, intelligent, fun sides are hard to shake.

Im so sorry it’s happened to you too but I’m so glad you’re feeling better slowly. I’m looking forward to the day I get there

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MrsKwazi · 04/01/2024 20:42

He sounds like a future faker. You are probably mourning a person/relationship that wasn’t real (sorry) anyway. What an asshole. You had a lucky escape. Stop wasting headspace on him, I know easier said than done but find your anger!

StopStartStop · 04/01/2024 20:47

It's a woman.

Keep busy. Have a standard thought ready to replace him if ever he drifts into your mind. 'Oh, I miss him - but I'd spend a million in and afternoon by...' or whatever.

Maintain your anger and your dignity. He's ended the relationship - don't let him come creeping back.

WhyAmINotCleaning · 04/01/2024 20:48

He's sounding like Guy in Green Wing.

You're glossing over the fact that one word used to describe him was 'narcissist' - and presumably this was by a medic, not someone misusing the word totally. I think if you had married him, he would have left you in the lurch with a baby, when things got tough. Your mum just brought things forward and saved you heartbreak and a broken family (and probably your career - as there's no way a man with that personality is going to hold his career back for a child and share jobs 50:50).

Saggypants · 04/01/2024 20:52

He has 2 properties and the problems stated quite sharply when he was faced with selling one to buy another with you.

I wonder if it just dawned on him that to move forward in the relationship, he was going have to effectively spilt his wealth with you and risk losing half of it if things didn't work out. (Assuming you're not bringing a similar amount to the table.)

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 20:55

It was a consultant colleague who has known him through years of training and seeing all his previous endeavours described him as narcissistic….

I didn’t have a clue when I met him. Kind of paraphrasing what people said here but everyone just seemed so happy that he’d
finally settled with someone who they thought would be so good for him after a string of ‘crazy’ exes and flings.

I can’t have been that bad to have made it that long with him then I guess……there was one thing where he mentioned something about me flying high in my new training post/masters. It was almost like he didn’t like it.

Perhaps he wanted a doormat who wasn’t improving herself. I don’t know?

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Fernsfernsferns · 04/01/2024 20:58

God yes doctors are the worst for being self centred crap Dad’s because ‘they are saving lives’ as a cover for pursing their own ambitions and avoiding the hard yards of parenting.

you are better off without him OP, you really are, even though it doesn’t feel like that yet.

focus on you. Know your worth. Ask harder questions earlier and don’t make excuses and play the ‘cool girl’ (get married? Moi?) next time.

if you want a family be firm and upfront about that. Have a clear timeline for commitment. But look for red flags.

my DH asked if I wanted children on our second date. I said ‘yes please, two‘. I was early thirties and wasn’t up for messing around. A couple Of years later and TTC he had a wobble. I said ‘if you’ve realised you don’t want this, or don’t want this with me, then of course I respect that. But you have to tell me now so I have time to leave and pursue my dreams elsewhere

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 20:59

Saggypants · 04/01/2024 20:52

He has 2 properties and the problems stated quite sharply when he was faced with selling one to buy another with you.

I wonder if it just dawned on him that to move forward in the relationship, he was going have to effectively spilt his wealth with you and risk losing half of it if things didn't work out. (Assuming you're not bringing a similar amount to the table.)

The whole idea of him leaving his rented flat and for us to buy our own place was entirely suggested and initiated by him.

We do have different salaries and whilst I didn’t have a huge deposit behind me I was very willing and able to contribute to costs/mortgage etc

maybe he did worry about splitting wealth….I guess there is potential for that in any failed relationship though

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Oneeno · 04/01/2024 21:01

Fernsfernsferns · 04/01/2024 20:58

God yes doctors are the worst for being self centred crap Dad’s because ‘they are saving lives’ as a cover for pursing their own ambitions and avoiding the hard yards of parenting.

you are better off without him OP, you really are, even though it doesn’t feel like that yet.

focus on you. Know your worth. Ask harder questions earlier and don’t make excuses and play the ‘cool girl’ (get married? Moi?) next time.

if you want a family be firm and upfront about that. Have a clear timeline for commitment. But look for red flags.

my DH asked if I wanted children on our second date. I said ‘yes please, two‘. I was early thirties and wasn’t up for messing around. A couple Of years later and TTC he had a wobble. I said ‘if you’ve realised you don’t want this, or don’t want this with me, then of course I respect that. But you have to tell me now so I have time to leave and pursue my dreams elsewhere

wow this is personal

ReallyAgainReally · 04/01/2024 21:03

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 20:59

The whole idea of him leaving his rented flat and for us to buy our own place was entirely suggested and initiated by him.

We do have different salaries and whilst I didn’t have a huge deposit behind me I was very willing and able to contribute to costs/mortgage etc

maybe he did worry about splitting wealth….I guess there is potential for that in any failed relationship though

@Saggypants yes, it was clear to me wealth is what made him renege. hence my very blunt first qs to op.

Rowen32 · 04/01/2024 21:05

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 18:48

I guess I just struggle with the fact he had only ever had relatively short term relationships in the past so 4 years especially at this stage in life must have meant something......how on earth does it take 4 years to decide 'somethings missing' when there were absolutely no signs of it prior to this?

I should have seen the relationship history as a huge red flag.....part of me feels like he has absolutely no idea what he wants.

I don't think his relationship history is a red flag, I know plenty happily married to their first and only partners that they met later in life (late twenties, early thirties) after travelling etc..
I do know of someone who went so far as to buy a house with someone, plan a wedding and then break up right before they had their first child, he's since happily married aswell with no issues, the other woman just wasn't right for him and it hit him just before things got real (i.e baby's birth and wedding).. Maybe this is like that?
I'm very sorry for your loss xx

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 21:12

Possibly. It just stings to be the victim of 4 wasted years and my supposed ‘best friend’ doing a complete 180 on me. Might be naïve of me but I didn’t think people could behave like that after going so far as picking out names for your future children, talking about wedding invites and then going saying all these things to all your friends and family at 44 years old…..it’s like I’ve been living with Peter Pan.

I know the time he started talking to me about how all his exes were ‘mad’ I saw that as a red flag. I don’t talk about any of
mine like that…..well, maybe this one will get that label

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norma1980 · 04/01/2024 21:13

I'm so sorry for you.

I was with someone similar. He had a very similar relationship history to your man. Bachelor for a long time. Amazing relationship. He said i was the first woman he'd wanted to marry. That played with my head. Then one day he decided with his head that I wasn't it. And that was it. I analysed and analysed and couldn't understand it. He said he loved me but had decided there was no future. I always go with my heart so couldn't understand his thinking and the fact he suddenly distanced himself and was able to move on. There was no other woman.

He made up his mind and he moved on. That was it. I couldn't and neither could his friends of family persuade him to give it another try.

I thought that we were so meant to be that we had to end up together any other conclusion wouldn't make sense.

I thought he'd regret his actions - he didn't.

He was cold and practical.

He's married now (this is 10 years later) and so am I to someone different.

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 21:14

There is one thing I’m proud of….he asked me for ‘friendship when I gave less of a sh*t’ (direct quote) and I did have the balls to tell him he was stupid to think it was a possibility……how would he feel when I met someone new? That did make him stammer a bit.

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BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 21:19

norma1980 · 04/01/2024 21:13

I'm so sorry for you.

I was with someone similar. He had a very similar relationship history to your man. Bachelor for a long time. Amazing relationship. He said i was the first woman he'd wanted to marry. That played with my head. Then one day he decided with his head that I wasn't it. And that was it. I analysed and analysed and couldn't understand it. He said he loved me but had decided there was no future. I always go with my heart so couldn't understand his thinking and the fact he suddenly distanced himself and was able to move on. There was no other woman.

He made up his mind and he moved on. That was it. I couldn't and neither could his friends of family persuade him to give it another try.

I thought that we were so meant to be that we had to end up together any other conclusion wouldn't make sense.

I thought he'd regret his actions - he didn't.

He was cold and practical.

He's married now (this is 10 years later) and so am I to someone different.

I’m so sorry, it really is the most hurtful thing when they say that to you isn’t it?

He has been the same. Completely cold, shut me off and cut me out like he doesn’t care at all. He even cruelly said he was no longer stressed with work now we have broken up? - although I have heard he’s been really horrid and angry to work with since so he can’t be taking it as easily as he’s tried to make out to me.

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RedRock41 · 04/01/2024 21:20

I’m so sorry OP. That is a devastating situation to deal with. The grief you will be feeling at the loss of the future you thought you had to look forward which has been taken away will be immense and sounds like without warning and worse without the usual deterioration was out of the blue. Hard (understatement) to get your head and heart around that. Unfortunately not much you can do - be a bit like one hand clapping until he gets to a point if he ever does of wanting to talk or get things back on track. It can and does happen sometimes but for self preservation you’d be best not to get your hopes up. Impossible to tell reasons not least as you know him best and are still at a loss but couple of possible things stood out in your narrative. 1. His work stress. Could be he was and is suffering burnout. If so someone saying it’ll get better when in that mindset is no help. Everything feels black and the constant pressure can be unbearable so in that frame of mind feeling like marriage/kids be a millstone maybe a factor. He maybe felt and feels trapped by work and displaced this onto your relationship. Deep down though he wants a family hence the confusing comment. Easier to find fault with others or you. 2. Your week at your parents was a catalyst. If he was/is burnout and/or depressed - he maybe found a bit of relief having one less demand placed on him by you not being there. Sounds daft as you tried to keep things light but if his job is really so stressful and he is struggling to manage - then from his point of view it may be that as he didn’t have that to contend with a relationship for a while was a help… + if it was that your realities as experienced by you both were very different… with him maybe feeling like a lot more on his shoulders. Strange to make the comment he wasn’t making you happy. Could be was really other way round and he just not good at quantifying his feelings.
That’s just one possible scenario. Not saying its right. Just really hope you get answers one day as seems very cruel indeed way it had ended - so abruptly and you not being clear as to why. Hoping too that 2024 has lots of laughs and adventures in store for you - goodness knows you bloody deserve it after thon.

Vcal2017 · 04/01/2024 21:23

Hi! Congratulations on being able to articulate and explain your situation so well. I’m 20 years older than you and have had serious heartbreak that I thought would ruin me. It doesn’t. I used to count the hours I didn’t think about him, then the days, then one day it was months. Then years: you get my drift. You will stop thinking about him.
My advice is to have some fun. Have some adventures, do some of the things he’s highly unlikely to do. Start to carve out an identity deliberately separate from his. Sky diving? yes please! Caving or whitewater rafting? Why not?! The point is, you’ll actually remember those things because you did them for you!
I worked in a run down old pub once, with some pretty crusty regulars. I was grieving a relationship in my 20’s and one of the customers said: ‘ Well, you know what they say. The best way to get over someone is to get over someone else’ . Provided all safety aspects are covered, this could be part of your plan too!

Herehare · 04/01/2024 21:28

It’s horrible to feel such betrayal and heartbreak but it will end and you’ll be out of it and happy again. But was he really a great partner for 4 years and then suddenly this, or were there quite bad times in between the good? If he can be so cold so suddenly then maybe better 4 years than 40 with him.

DisappearingGirl · 04/01/2024 21:33

I know a man who was with his (absolutely lovely) wife since university. They did all sorts of travelling etc and seemed perfectly matched. He was always up for adventure, great with kids, fun guy.

After about 12 years together, he and his wife had kids. When they were 1 and 3 he suddenly left her for another woman he met at work. There had been nothing wrong in the relationship, except the stress of work and very young kids.

He now sees his kids part time, and the other part of his time he does a lot of adventurous travelling with his new partner. I reckon he's a bit of a thrill seeker and needed the "next thrill".

He is a doctor (surgeon).

BadgerHill · 04/01/2024 21:34

Absolutely he was a great partner, I’ve never been happier in my life til he turned into a huge stress head and projected it all on to me. The personality shift was awful - it was like I suddenly became ‘the enemy’ and that’s the rub, you hold onto that hope that someone is going to sort themselves out and realise what the hell they’ve lost and that is the bit I’m really struggling to let go of but I know I must.

The thing is it’s hard reflecting and working on self improvement when you know you were a good partner and that this is really all on them…..perhaps I didn’t set boundaries early and clearly enough and it would have wheedled him out quicker, who knows? I was very very much in love.

I know analysing things constantly isn’t healthy but in a way I’m learning a heck of a lot through doing it. I certainly don’t think he’ll be doing any introspection so I guess in the end who is going to come out better?

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Brackishmaaah722 · 04/01/2024 21:37

Op I am sorry you are so devastated 💐. I think you have the right to be absolutely furious with him. I’ve no idea of course but I think it’s possible that he’s lied to you all along. Played a role. Having said that, four years is a long time to do that.

But it was four years of your prime fertility. I know it’s not easy but if you ask me it’s time to stop loving him and get seriously angry 😡

Who actually talks about future children to their prospective wife’s family and friends before becoming engaged? That almost sounds like he was laying a trail - trying to make his intentions seem honourable so that he would seem like a genuine person when he came to split up with you.

How bloody dare he initiate conversations about wedding songs , and then let you down so badly? That’s really shitty dishonourable behaviour. 😡

It could be another woman, or he could be gay and he wants to get married and have children with a man and he can’t face coming out to his parents, or he could be the sort of arrogant perfectionist A type man who rather than thinking “am I good enough for her?” thinks of every woman he meets “is she good enough for me?” He’s probably got a detailed list of criteria somewhere. This attitude could come from him, or from his family.

I think getting to the age of 40 and not having had a relationship longer than 18 mths is a bit of a clue though that this isn’t anything you’ve done - this is all about him and his commitment phobia - so hold your head up high.

Obviously this is all guess work. It could be any number of things. Maybe the pp who said it was all ok when it was light and easy and that he can’t handle the reality of a relationship with all of the usual stresses is right? In which case you have swerved a bullet.

Never mind saying hello when he passes you in the corridor, stick out a long umbrella and send him flying! 😜. And make sure he sees you leaving the building with a very tall, dark, fit, handsome, sexy looking male companion some day soon! 😉😉😀

Good luck op. You deserve so much better!

Fmlgirl · 04/01/2024 21:38

I think there’s another woman but at the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter why he behaves like this and the outcome is the same. You’ll make yourself crazy analysing this. He has treated you appallingly and you can do so much better. The sooner you realise this, the faster you can move on. Best of luck OP!

Fmlgirl · 04/01/2024 21:40

Forgot to add as well, I was with a future faker like this. I now also somehow believe that if you get to 44 and women your own age have essentially become infertile or are getting there, you don’t really want children as deeply as you might let on.

DisappearingGirl · 04/01/2024 21:40

Agree with Brackishmaaah722 about finding your anger.