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Fab & Glam Part 4 - Spring into Happiness!

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Paddlechick666 · 17/03/2008 13:26

Good Lord people, we've filled a thread up in about 6 weeks!

Anyways, here's a link to the venue Tanee suggested for a picnic:

www.coramsfields.org/index.php

Looks fabulous so let's get planning!

ps: sorry for London/Southern centric take on this but we'll plan hits around the rest of the country too I promise.

pps: Lily, get yer butt on FB woman!

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lilyloo · 05/05/2008 09:23

McD (((hugs)))
Your right what can she tell her dd, i have no morals and broke up another family
It's very for her dd i agree, and yes you are allowed to hate her!

Dior glad your friend is sounding better.

Baffy hope you doing better again today am sure it will be worth it!

PC thanks for going on my other thread, your help is really really appreciated! Hope your ok was glad to see you had been around was getting worried about you!

Paddlechick666 · 05/05/2008 10:41

hi lily, i've been in the states for work. just got back on saturday.

have to say i'm feeling pretty mixed up emotionally. i missed dd so much while i was away but it was really nice just having myself to think about/please.

shock to the system coming back to fulltime on duty to demanding toddler. it's just brought back all the feelings of not wanting to be a single parent.

i did some hard thinking about H whilst away and i just cannot see any sort of a future for us. he is so selfish, dips in and out when it suits him. he is capable of sending supportive texts etc but it's just words. there are no actions to back them up. i am totally fed up of shouldering all the responsibility for our child.

and to top it all off, he resigned his job on tuesday night. called me to inform me. tbh, i don't blame him as the expectations of his boss are just unrealistic. he's been working 12-14 hour days plus weekends. the boss wants everything done yesterday so promotions are going off half cocked and then he wonders why they're not as successfull as they could have been etc etc.

originally H only expected the job to last 3 months and was purely start up. it's been 7 months and he was supposed to be keeping an eye out for something less stressful/more stable during this time.

anyway, i am cross with him for not managing the situation so that it got to breaking point. for not finding another job before canning the one he had etc etc. just when i was beginning to think things would be more stable.

i don't actually care what he does as long as he pays his monthly support for dd. actually spending regular time with her would be the icing on the cake. from what i can gather he's seeing his older boys reasonably regularly and it really annoys me that he's capable of that but it's once every 3 months for dd.

asbo neighbours and jet lag aren't helping my emotional health either i suppose.

also annoyed as i arranged drinks this week and forgot DM isn't coming to look after dd this week.

just seems every time i get a bit of balance in my life something sabotages it. normally H sabotaging himself iyswim.

i really really really am at the end of my patience in terms of getting no help or actual support from him. just feel really really fed up and powerless and resentful of the situation. feel like i've gone back 6 months.........

sorry for the rant all about me!

hope everyone is doing okay, enjoying a bit of warm weather. nice to come back and see some leaves on the trees at least.

mac, your situation is just so awful and i don't know how i'd cope if i had to deal with it.

i think i would probably seriously consider moving away. leaving h to get on with his life alone or with her. i know the desire is there to "win" when there's OW involved but i think you've already won as much as you're ever going to. and really, what's the prize on offer? is it really something you want to win anymore?

to have OW on your doorstep like this and under your circumstances just isn't healthy for you IMO.

do a Baffy, retire gracefully with your head high and dignity intact. i promise you, you will win the greater prize of control, peace of mind, dignity and a happy future for you and your girls if you can walk away from such a damaging situation.

right, i need to get this child out of the house before we both go bonkers!

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Dior · 05/05/2008 18:54

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HappyWoman · 06/05/2008 07:36

PC - you do not sound at all like you did 6 months ago to me - but thats from inside this computer.

Dont feel bad about enjoying not having dd and it will have done you the world of good. I sometimes joke that i am counting the days until they are all left - but i hope they know it is a joke.

Baffy glad it went well and hope you can take a well earned rest for a bit now.

McD - try and let out all the feelings as they just eat you up. She has not 'won' anything and as you said a while ago you have your wonderful DD from all this heartache. Go and have a good scream somewhere i always found it helped me - and the lovely feeling of calm after is a real high. It is not a cure but for a few seconds the realise is wonderful and i now find the inner peace stays longer with me and i dont need to scream as much.

H's birthday yesterday and he said it was the best one he had had. The dc all got him something or made him something. He has been under a lot of stress at work but is being so fantasic i am actually going to start calling him DH from now on - and that is someting i never thought i would do again. I must be moving on. Of course it could be that the sun has gone to my head but i really do feel great at the moment.

Loads of other problems to worry about though so better get on.

When can we meet Dior?

Baffy · 06/05/2008 12:55

HW - glad things are looking much better, am so pleased for you

Macd how awful for you - I really don't know how you cope with having to see her so much. I know you shouldn't have to move away, but if I were you I'd be very tempted. Not miles away. Just far enough. Just get away from all 3 of them, leave H behind, and start fresh somewhere. I know you shouldn't have to. None of this was your fault. But it must be torture every single day for you

pc how are you? I'm glad the trip went well. Totally understand all of your feelings. I was at a family christening on Sunday and I was the only person in the family who was single. With the youngest child too. Ds is an absolute dream and he's not hard work at all. But being a single parent is so demanding. You literally never get time to switch off do you.

I couldn't help looking round at all the couples sharing childcare responsibilities and feeling totally alone, and totally ashamed at how badly my marriage went wrong. What is so wrong with me that my H could leave me and his son just a few weeks after meeting a teenage slapper. I know the problem is in him. Not with me.
But we're the ones left picking up the pieces aren't we, while they're living the life they choose.

I don't have any answers pc. Just lots of {{{hugs}}}

macdoodle · 06/05/2008 13:17

Hi all - think all my demons are escaping their boxes and struggling to deal with all the emotions at moment (see my slapper thread)...I think I need to let go of some of my anger or risk becoming a bitter old hag ...
PC very sensible advice have though many times about moving away BUT do not see why I should run away - I have a lovely job (and at the moment not a good field to be job hunting), I love my house, my DD1 is settled in school with a good group of friends, I have a great support network (including PIL) that it would be just such an upheaval not to mention DD1 would be heartbroken to leave daddy....
HW you sound so happy
Baffy hope the eyes are ok....
Hope everyone is ok!

lilyloo · 06/05/2008 13:19

Can't begin to imagine how hard it must be for you girls managing being a mum on your own.
I really need dp when it comes to the dc's and have no idea how you do it solo.
It's not a choice you would have made i know and no answers as to why the men in your lives 'opted' out but massive (((hugs))) to you all!

macdoodle · 06/05/2008 13:22

ooh xpost hi Baffy {waves}
I agree it is so hard being the only one looking after kids especially when all you see are "happy couples" - my BF (who is usually fab) was raving about her wonderful DH (he's not that wonderful TBH)and how he looked after her DD2 (my DD1 BF) all weekend while she was working - UMMMM NOT she was in fact at my house ALL day Sunday (from 10am to 5pm when my BF got home from work) - I fed her twice - I have no problem at all she is no trouble and the girls were good as gold - just that her H didn't actually do anything - her other kids are older and look after themselves
What I am trying to say is that at least we only have to answer to ourselves, do what we want, when we want, and are not stuck in unhappy relationships with no way out!! Things are not always how they look on the outside!

Baffy · 06/05/2008 13:30

Totally agree macd. All those 'happy' families and 'perfect' couples are probably nothing like that in reality!

Still I think I'm the bitter old hag thinking why are they all good enough for their H's to stick around (even when you know some of the women are complete bitches!) but I wasn't good enough for mine!

Perhaps we were too good for ours! I'll try to tell myself that instead!

Paddlechick666 · 06/05/2008 13:49

baffy, that is a thought constantly on my mind too. it's impossible to see into a relationship of course but i do constantly look at family units around and about and wonder what's so bloody special about them that they have managed to hang onto their husbands.

it's ridiculous and irrational to speculate and compare etc but i still do it.....

mac, i know you shouldn't have to move and uproot yourself and dc but looking at playing the long game would it not be beneficial for long term happiness? and it wouldn't be running away in the slightest. it would be removing yourself with dignity.

it's a big decision tho and doing it would speak volumes about where you're at emotionally.

hw, glad you had a great family weekend and birthday for dh. more good memories to overwrite the bad.

dior, hope the freakazoid behaviour abates soon.

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Paddlechick666 · 06/05/2008 13:52

oh and i'd like to publicly announce i am doing a 2 focus degree in Bitter Old Hag & Grumpy Shouty Mummy and a part time course in Stressed Employee!

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HappyWoman · 06/05/2008 15:09

Thats a lovely way of putting it PC lovely memories to over-write the bad - i will be using that one myself if you dont mind me 'stealing' it.

No marriage is perfect and no-one deserves some of the treatment we have been through (well maybe a few of the ow ). But it is a partnership and it really does take two to make it work and only one to ruin it. You did nothing wrong at all - so please stop thinking that way.
Where is TFM when we need her wise words most, she says it so much better than i do.

We all have our ups and downs and i truely believe that when you find love next time you will know yourselves so much better and be able to 'give' more too - and it will be a better relationship.

Dh and i are a good team - and mostly balance each other out - at the moment he is a bit stressed about work and is phoning lots, which is hard but i hope by next week it will have calmed down a bit.

Hope me being so happy is not making you feel worse .

Anyone heard from ernest - she must be ready to pop?

ginnedup · 06/05/2008 16:41

Its nice to hear you soundinbg so happy HW after the last few weeks.
PC and Baffy - it is not you two couldn't hang on to your husbands. They were too bloody stupid to realise what great wives they had in you and you are far far too good for them.
Hope everyone else is Ok and enjoying this lovely sunshine.

Dior · 06/05/2008 19:18

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ginnedup · 06/05/2008 19:45

Dior - I think if we saw you and your h together we would think "isn't he lucky"
Don't be so down on yourself - you are great.
Pep talk over

Dior · 06/05/2008 21:17

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ginnedup · 06/05/2008 21:35

Nothing wrong with a bit of window shopping. I often find myself lusting after men without beerguts but I'd never let P catch me!!!

Dior · 06/05/2008 21:37

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ginnedup · 06/05/2008 22:05

Wow. That bracelet is gorgeous and I love the bag. Well done you

Dior · 07/05/2008 10:47

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Paddlechick666 · 07/05/2008 10:47

check this out: www.moodgym.anu.edu.au

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HappyWoman · 07/05/2008 10:56

Grit those teeth dior - i get really angry if people do that to me.

ginnedup · 07/05/2008 11:00

Cheeky bugger! What a stupid thing to say.
I smoke and drink wine but I wouldn't let my dc do it!!!
Some people

Paddlechick666 · 07/05/2008 11:03

Dior, there isn't anything in diet coke to get addicted to FFS!

Tell him he should've seen the Americans I was with last week. Constanly glued to a soft drink either in a can or a huge cup & straw.

One of the guys carries a huge (at least a pint) glass of diet "soda" around with him and told me he drank one before leaving home then re-filled for drive to office.

btw, if ds does start demanding a good mate of mine managed to convince her dc that sparkling water was lemonaid for years!

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Dior · 07/05/2008 11:48

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