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Fab & Glam Part 4 - Spring into Happiness!

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Paddlechick666 · 17/03/2008 13:26

Good Lord people, we've filled a thread up in about 6 weeks!

Anyways, here's a link to the venue Tanee suggested for a picnic:

www.coramsfields.org/index.php

Looks fabulous so let's get planning!

ps: sorry for London/Southern centric take on this but we'll plan hits around the rest of the country too I promise.

pps: Lily, get yer butt on FB woman!

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lilyloo · 19/04/2008 13:56

Hey all just popping by to say we are back all a little wind burnt but glad to be back in the warmth!
Hope you all ok and will try to do catch up soon

MrsDiorKeanuReeves · 20/04/2008 13:05

Hi all! H has pissed me off again. He wanted to go for a bike ride on his own. When I asked if we could go out as a family, he said, 'So when do I get some time to myself like you did yesterday?' I did a beading class yesterday and it was great. However, he had 8 days away in March, which I kind of think is a bit ungrateful.

He loves bike riding and it is his hobby, so I can understand him wanting time alone to do it. BUT, to throw my day away back in my face is a bit beyond the pale don't you think?

Dior · 20/04/2008 16:22

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ginnedup · 20/04/2008 16:57

That is unreasonable Dior, but it seems to be a man thing. P did the same to me last weekend - I had a night out with my friends on Saturday night (the first time since November), drunk too much and had a horrible hangover on Sunday and fell asleep on the sofa all afternoon while he looked after the dc - we had a row on Monday and of course it was thrown in my face, with his track record for drinking I thought it was a bit rich!!!
They are such twats at times!!

Baffy · 20/04/2008 17:56

Hi Dior

I guess if he'd have said something along the lines of bike riding being his hobby and would you mind if he had a couple of hours to himself to do it then you would have been fine. I think it's the way he's reacted to your suggestion of family time and then throwing your 'me' time back in your face.

Not on at all!

But sounds like you both do benefit from having your hobbies and that bit of time apart now and then doing the things you love.

Shame he couldn't have just accepted your nice suggestion of some family time and said he's love to do his bike ride alone but when he got back you could do 'xyz' as a family instead...

Are you still going to the counselling? I wonder if this is the sort of thing that needs exploring a bit more. Helping you both to get out of the mindset that 'she did this so I deserve to do that' etc. Ultimaltely it shouldn't be about that at all. It doesn't matter who's had more quality time alone etc. You both enjoy and benefit from your time apart. And really that should then result in you appreciating your time together a lot more. I think perhaps he's just lost sight of that
(Or never had sight of it in the first place maybe!!)

Dior · 20/04/2008 20:09

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Tanee58 · 21/04/2008 12:06

Hi everyone, just got into work from the dentists - will catch up with you all later - but I have had a HORRIBLE weekend - apart from DD's birthday, which went really well (managed to get her cards from Russell Brand & Richard Coyle, so I am now SuperMum.

DP in major depression mode & we had a really bad Saturday when he just abandoned me on the underground at Kings X. Tell you more later but I'm really in a mood to tell him to pack his bags. Hardly seen or spoken to each other since - the spare room has become his.

Have to keep trying not to cry ...

PC I shall start reading your books tonight.

TimeForMe · 21/04/2008 12:10

I'm sorry you had a horrible weekend Tanee but I'm glad dd's birthday went well

I really don't know how you cope with all of DP's up's and down's. You are a trooper!! Try not to let him get you down, let him wallow in his own misery but don't join him. Thinking of you xx

Dior · 21/04/2008 12:13

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Tanee58 · 21/04/2008 14:50

Thanks Dior & TFM - TFM, your posts on Baffy 'Bridget Jones' cheered me up no end! .

Dior, 'me' time is always more important to them than to us - we obviously don't need so much time to ourselves . Glad that he was better after his bike ride, though.

Well, DP and I have been like this. He's been quietish all week - and possibly it's been a lot to do with the court appearance & loads of other little issues. We all went out for dinner on Friday and his friend & I did most of the talking. He was quiet but at least we held hands walking home. Saturday we took his friend & her DS to their hotel and walked to Tate Modern for tea. He was very quiet and walked apart from us most of the time. We left them at their hotel and headed home, he said not a word to me apart from brief comments on this and that. At Kings X it was so crowded & he was a bit ahead of me. Some people got in the way, he was by a door watching me trying to get through, then the doors started closing and he just turned and got on - and left me on the platform. I almost wept. I caught the next train & luckily a friend of mine was on it. She gave me a big hug and said I was welcome to go round to hers.

So I went home first & he was just sitting there eating hummus and pitta. I said, 'I can't believe you did that'. He just said he thought I was getting on the train. I said 'Why didn't you at least wait for me at the station?' and he said 'You know your way home' He'd NEVER have been like this before. It was so cold & detached.

I asked him for a hug, he said he couldn't give me one yet. I said, did he want to be alone, he said yes. So I just got my coat and went round to my friend's. We have scarcely spoken since. He's slept in the spare room and was out most of yesterday, whilst I went out with DD and spent the evening watching 'Coupling' with her. (Richard Coyle was SO funny!)

My friend says her it's very like her sister's situation - she lives in a remote part of France with a husband who's been clinically depressed all their married life - after 30 years she's considering leaving him.

Like TFM, I do believe in fate. It really was fate to find my friend on that train - otherwise I would have had to spend the evening in silence with him - though I was considering ringing round to see if anyone could offer me a refuge for the duration. Before I left, I told him that he really needed to seek help, but I don't know if he was listening. He's in a very dark place and I can't reach him now. I just have to make sure he doesn't drag me into that dark place.

It seemed very symbolical, when he turned and got onto that train - like he was turning away from me and retreating into a capsule where I could not reach him, being carried away into a dark tunnel and leaving me in the light.

Sorry, feeling very sorry for myself today - and sad, as I'm wondering if this is how it's always going to be, or if I should bale out and leave him to a lonely, depressed old age.

I was even comparing him to my exh - thinking, then we had no sex but we had friendship. In the last couple of months, DP & I have had no sex and now even the friendship is damaged. At this moment I feel nothing for him but great sadness.

Tanee58 · 21/04/2008 14:53

The funny bit was that on my way home from my friend's, I spotted DD and her friends walking home from the station, and turned round to pick them up. They all thought I was a curb crawler and started to run! I gave them a chorus of 'Jump in my car' as they finally realised it was me and got in - just call me The Hoff!

Tanee58 · 21/04/2008 15:55

Oh dear. Just looked at my thread around this time last year, when we had a similar situation, and NOTHING seems to have changed. I'm almost expecting the same 'I don't want to live with you any more, the experiment has failed' speech that he made last April.

This is deeply depressing.

Oh well, back to work...

TimeForMe · 21/04/2008 17:00

Don't be depressed Tanee. I looked at mine at the time I was having P troubles and it was almost identical too . I think our men are all ruled by the moon!

Just remember Tanee, DP is only a piece of the pie not all of it. You have so much going for you in your life, aside of him. Try looking at the good things around you and sod him! Thats what I try to do, I make P insignificant. This is my life and I will choose how to live it, I refuse to be affected by his moods or the way he lives his life a moment longer!! I can highly reccommend it Tanee

I'm glad the 'bridet jones' talk cheered you up, it's time we brought some fun and laughter back to the thread. I will have to think of some more funnies

Keep smiling Tanee 'The Hoff' xxx

Baffy · 21/04/2008 17:10

I will catch up properly later but I'm with TFM Tanee, try to do what we're doing and focus on everything else (that is good) around you, and let these men get on with it!

We can't change them can we. 12 months on for all of us and they still haven't made any effort to change. Well my last birthday revolved around H. While his life revolved around OW!! And still does!!

This year I am surrounding myself with all of the people who love me, and who have supported me unconditionally through all of this. And H will be bottom of my thoughts!

I can't wait for Saturday! Not being 30 but to spend the evening with people who make me happy and make me smile

Like you say, don't let him drag you down with him. You've been the most wonderful loving supportive partner you could possibly be. He needs to take some steps forward himself now. There's only so much you can do.

Catch up later

Bridget xx

TimeForMe · 21/04/2008 17:19

Wey Hey! Bridget Big Knickers!! xxx

Tanee58 · 21/04/2008 17:23

Thanks TFM & Baffy - you are both so right. We can't change them, we can only change how we react to them. They have to change themselves. Pity they can't see what a brilliant deal they have with women like us!

I will go home now, make a nice dinner for DD and me - and him if he wants to eat it - and force myself to smile at him when he comes home, but not force my company on him. He can take it or leave it. I will just focus on watching more of 'Scary Jeff' on our Coupling video (am working on a small crush on Richard Coyle!)

Baffy, don't be at being 30 - I actually think life got better for me after 30 - I began to worry less about what people thought of me and had a much better time for it. I plan on being a truly SHAMELESS old lady ! You will have a fabulous time. Is your birthday on Saturday itself?

Tanee58 · 21/04/2008 17:24

aka The Hoff

Dior · 21/04/2008 18:41

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Baffy · 21/04/2008 19:38

Oh no Dior. Sounds awful
I think you're being a great friend to her though, glad you've got the teacher for support too. Let us know how things are.

Yes Tanee it falls on Saturday so that was fantastic planning by my mum!!

It has felt weird organising (and paying for!) my own party! But I thought what the hell, if I want all of my friends and family with me on the day, including ds, then it was the best option all round. Looking forward to it. And with ds by my side I'm sure I'll have a great night

Bridget beautiful knickers xx

(Please take note TFM!!! )

macdoodle · 21/04/2008 20:43

Hi all not really sure how I feel at moment - so sorry all seems a bit blah for everyone at mo - Tanee big huge hug how awful for you just leaving you like that
Baffy in case I forget/don't get on HAPPY BIG THREE O !!!! Enjoy
My birthday is forever marred by H antics with OW - 2 years ago on my birthday (a sat) he gave me a lovely wife card with I love you/need you etc etc - we were really struggling at the time not talking/no sex etc - 1 week later exactly I found out about OW and threw him out.....he has never explained the card except to say he still loved me funny way of showing it !!
Am so up and down at mo ....and dreading going back to work and leaving baby - 7 weeks today (but starting childcare 6 weeks today for trail run)
H being odd with me - and I really don't know how to tackle him - some days feel so strong and ready to tell him we need to divorce and move on our relationship is so unhealthy/co dependant and then other days I just feel incapable of anything....
I was feeding baby earlier and she was so peaceful and beautiful - I realised that if I could go back 2 years and undo all the pain/hurt/heartache/anger/deceit etc etc ad infinutum and have my old H back and our marriage the way it started BUT I couldn't have DD2 if I did - I know I wouldn't/couldn't - she is so beloved in my heart I wanted and waited for her so long and she is such a lovely little soul - so really it has all been worth it because I got her and so how can I be unhappy
Gosh sorry so garbled reflects my state of mind I guess....
Love to all my teabags - can we plan next meet please I need something to look forward to

TimeForMe · 21/04/2008 20:50

Oooh I loved my 30th Birthday. I was newly single and embarking on my wonderful new life. It lasted a whole 3 years! It's a shame we don't all live closer, we could have joined Bridget Big Beautiful Knickers at her party!

Sorry to everyone else who is having a bit of a crap time xx

Baffy · 21/04/2008 21:20

Macd it is wonderful you got something so precious out of so much heartache and hurt. Your dd will give you all the love back that H could have given you, x a million!

It's great that you can see that and really value it. Your dd's are what matters in the long run aren't they. They truly are angels. All of our dc's are. Well, most of the time

Whatever happens between you and H now, at least those two beautiful girls will be by your side no matter what

Don't rush yourself with decisions. We all know that rollercoaster of emotions so well. And you have a new baby and all the hormones on top of that!

One day at a time. That's all you can do for now. And I'm sure things will work out for the best in the end. Whatever that may be

Would love to plan the next meet up. It is a real shame you're not all closer as it would have been great to have you all there on Saturday! I wouldn't be where I am now without you lot!

We need to start thinking of some dates...

Has anyone heard from PC lately, is she ok??

TimeForMe · 21/04/2008 21:23

Yes Bridget Baffy, PC is fine, all is well just very busy. Needless to say Mother Hen has already checked up on her

Dior · 21/04/2008 21:33

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sugarpear · 22/04/2008 11:03

Tanee {{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}

Baffy 30 is nothing especially when your as gorgeous as you are!

Tfm hello xx

I love bridget knickers. Dh calls them the apple catches!!

Hi everyone.

No real time to catch up pff to st tommy's with ds in a little while hopefully get his new processor and to catch up with the surgeon. Dh got all the other dc's so me and ds going to make the most of it and have a looksie round!

Willl catch up soon. Love to all xxx

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