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Relationship break up, really heartbroken *trigger warning: abuse*

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Mydogisamentalist · 24/12/2023 22:43

Hi, I feel really stupid writing a thread like this on Christmas Eve but I’m heartbroken and I think a little bit traumatised. I know I’ve posted about this relationship before on here and I was told to run. I should have.

Me and my boyfriend of a year and a half broke up a couple of days ago, well that’s all I can assume as it was never really clarified. I’m not handling it very well. I know I should be jumping for joy. Wtf is wrong with me!?

He could be physically abusive towards the beginning and was very emotionally abusive throughout.
I’ve never told anyone this but he threatened to kill me three times. He was driving and we were arguing about something really difficult for me. He started driving at 90-100 miles an hour, once screaming he was going to plough into the truck in front. The parking sensors were going crazy, I was terrified. Another time he did the same but into a roundabout. The third was off the side of a very high hill. That was the worst and I grabbed my phone to try and call the police. He lunged at me, pushing me into the car door and pulled it out of my hand, bending my wrist backwards in the process and really hurting me. He was holding my phone out the window, telling me he’d throw it if I didn’t ‘behave’ and I could have it back ‘when I’d calmed down’.

Everything in our relationship was on his terms. He’d disagree with that but it was. I tried so hard to care about him while also standing up for myself. He was skint and so I paid for pretty much everything. He had no money and his only shoes had holes in them so I bought him some lovely ones for Christmas. I knew he couldn’t afford to buy me anything back but I wanted him to not be uncomfortable. That’s hurting the most right now. He has those shoes that I bought with love and he clearly never cared about me if he could do what he’s done.

Which leads me to the break up. A massive bug bare for me was phone calls. He never ever answered the phone. Basically I had to wait for him to call me and if for some reason I was busy he’d never pick up if I called back. Yet he could ring constantly. There were times he’d call over and over again until I answered. Family noticed it, friends noticed it. It was like an unspoken one rule for him but another for me.
Three days ago I really wanted to talk to him. It had been a shitty morning and I just wanted some kindness (just to add, this was rare! I didn’t call all the time. I never really called him at all because it was pointless). He answered after a few tries and was a bit short and asked if he could call me back in an hour. I agreed. Two hours pass and nothing. Normally I’d just wait indefinitely but something about that day made me snap. I’d had enough of him being able to call how much and when he pleased and me living on tenterhooks over it. So I called him a few times. He texts to say he’s still busy and to stop ‘harassing’ him, he’ll call me ‘asap’. Six more hours pass and still nothing. I did send a somewhat grumpy message and then discover he’d blocked me. He’s never done this before.

I called him yesterday from a withheld number. I probably shouldn’t have but I was hurt and confused. Two weeks ago I was on the verge of breaking up with him and he didn’t want it to end. We had a conversation where he was in tears. He said that even if we did break up he’d want to be my best friend. I wouldn’t be able to stop him from calling every day and he’d still want to meet up. That he never wanted to not be a part of my life because he loved me and he’d be devastated to lose me. He’s always been quite affectionate in telling me ‘I meant everything to him’ and so on. I guess having a total 360 done to you makes you want answers.
Anyway, I mentioned this to him and he immediately said ‘I do want to be friends’. I also asked what was going on and if we were broken up (I know, I’m pathetic) and he said ‘is that what you want?’ He wouldn’t answer the question and then he hung up on me.

I’m still blocked everywhere. I haven’t tried to contact him today. He phoned me though off a with held number around noon. I answered it and he said nothing. It was weird, he waited ten seconds before hanging up.

I know this is the last thing I should be thinking about but all I want to know is if I’ll ever hear from him again. He was often awful. He could also be amazingly kind and loving. I miss him while being aware that In a few weeks I’ll probably be glad this happened… yet right now all I want is to know if he’s gone for good. He’s ruining Christmas. I can’t feel happy and I can’t think of anything else. I’m just going through the motions 😞

OP posts:
Mydogisamentalist · 27/12/2023 22:21

How come you didn't?

Because at the time we were still together but I’d told the police I’d cut contact with him. I was very mixed up. I had so many police officers turn up to the house, so many phoning me insisting that even if I didn’t want to engage I needed to keep the evidence. Then there was the IDVA lady and being told there was going to be a MARAC. I felt like I’d opened a can of worms and I had him on the other side telling me it was a mountain out of a molehill.
The police basically told me that if I was to continue seeing him they heavily recommended I put in a Claire’s law application. I told him about this and he said the only thing it would pull up would be the incident with his ex wife being hospitalised and I already knew that so what would be the point.

Had he admitted by that point that he had broken his ex wife's ribs in a "fight"?

Not in so many words. He said that they had been arguing and it had turned physical. She lunged at him and wrapped her legs around his waist he leaned backwards and she went over his head and hit the floor hard on the other side. I don’t see how that’s remotely possible thinking about it now.

Was this involvement with the police etc because you reported him for one of the dangerous driving incidents/threatening your life?

Yes, I never was able to get past the driving incidents or the sexual coercion at the start of the relationship. I’d bring up how wrong it was to him often and he’d just brush it under the carpet. Or he’d tell me that I was also abusive. I did one thing ‘wrong’ and he clung to it to make me seem evil any chance he got. I’m still not really sure if it was wrong but he made me feel like evil personified for it.

Anyway, one night it was just hurting more than normal and I’d lost all perspective on whether I was right to feel this way or overreacting. I submitted a police report online expecting to never hear anything from it. Instead I had a police officer phoning me twenty minutes later and asking if he could come around to take a statement immediately.

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LittleMissSunshiner · 27/12/2023 22:38

OP well done getting clear in your mind. Stay strong.

I think you need to speak to the police about him and get the info via Claire's Law (if you're allowed to) so that you know what you're dealing with.

Also it might be best to tell anyone and everyone you know - friends, family, neighbours, colleagues etc - that you've ended a relationship with someone shady so they can keep an eye and ear open for your safety.

Keep on working on recovering and healing, it'll be worth it. He sounds dangerously unwell and a total narc abuser. I went out with one for about 18 months too and it destroyed my physical and mental health, my central nervous system was shot to pieces. Be sure to eat well, sleep well, and take extra good care of yourself all the time, so you can get fighting fit again soon and all this will be behind you.

Damnedidont · 30/12/2023 07:11

Take a leaf out of his ex's book. Don't stop till you get everything you want and go on to be a fantastic success!

AlchemyLady · 30/12/2023 11:07

I'm so pleased to read your update that you've ended things.

However, don't for one second believe he will accept this and quietly move on.

In his mind, this is you playing tricks with him. He absolutely won't have the same understanding of your intentions - that you simply want out of the relationship.

He'll be back. And he is a very dangerous man OP. You need to be prepared. It isn't done with, because you've told him it's over, I'm afraid.

You MUST do a Claire's Law request. And I would strongly advise you to call Women's Aid and get some advice.

You've just ended a relationship with a violent, dangerous abuser who put his ex in hospital. You need to understand that this won't be it, for him, and you must engage with services that can support you.

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

Mydogisamentalist · 31/12/2023 14:25

Hi everyone, I was hoping I wouldn’t have to post on this thread again. I should have known better.

I thought things were ok. I’d spoken to him and while he said he still loved me and kept calling me ‘babe’… then apologising for it… he hasn’t tried to get back together. Asked if he could see me, yes, but not asked for the relationship back.

Today I had a police officer at the door looking for him. They were here to take a statement from him. He actually lives a good hour and a half away from me and has never lived at my address. Christ knows why they came here. I don’t think my ex even knows my address to give to them which makes it even more weird.

I’m extremely concerned. I know if I contacted him and asked him he’d say he has no idea and he hasn’t done anything. What’s he playing at?! I feel sick.

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Mygosh · 31/12/2023 14:40

You need to block him back. Block him on everything and move on with your life. You are worth so much more than this.

He sounds like a dangerous narcissist. He probably had someone else lined up when he blocked you. I've been there, I could've written virtually the same post as you.

Whatever you do, please stay away from him. He will destroy your confidence, if he hasn't already. Stay safe, don't interact with him at all. It will be difficult at first, but I can guarantee you, after a few weeks you will start to smile again.

Mydogisamentalist · 31/12/2023 14:58

I’m so angry. Why would he be needed by the police to make a statement and why in gods name would they come here looking for him!?

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 31/12/2023 15:38

You know why.

He has got into trouble again and given a false address.

I expect you did tell the police that he has never lived at your address.

Do not contact him.

It does not matter what he is playing at

Just remember he no longer has anything to do with you, and it's all mind games.

MeMySonAnd1 · 01/01/2024 08:58

Why? I suggest you read your posts in this thread again. He is acting in extreme ways, yet you are over analysing everything to make things look reasonable and make it acceptable to keep in touch with him.

You have proven him, time and time again, that no matter what he does you are always there, with the door half open, waiting to take him back… if he insists.

greenbeansnspinach · 01/01/2024 09:44

MeMySonAnd1 · 01/01/2024 08:58

Why? I suggest you read your posts in this thread again. He is acting in extreme ways, yet you are over analysing everything to make things look reasonable and make it acceptable to keep in touch with him.

You have proven him, time and time again, that no matter what he does you are always there, with the door half open, waiting to take him back… if he insists.

it can look like that from the outside, but people who’ve lived with abuse and are trying to leave have a long way to travel in their own mind. From captive to free woman. OP has lived with this level of control for quite a while. She’s going to be questioning everything she thinks now that she’s heading out of her prison, because without being rude, she’s not used to thinking for herself so it’s like practising a new skill. Learning to ride a bike and wobbling. It gets easier. She’s not even used to the daylight yet!
I would say she’s doing really well.

Toooldtoworry · 01/01/2024 10:17

@greenbeansnspinach spot on

Ladolcevita233 · 01/01/2024 11:46

Do they have your address from the incident you reported?

Perhaps when they look at his record, the last/previous incident was the report by yourself, with your address alongside the incident. And either they don't have another address for him (likely, since he's been lodging with relatives/friends (?) and even lying to you about which relatives he's been living with), or the police have mistakenly thought he's living with you

I'd say it could be that, rather than him giving them your address.

It's the only/most recent definite address they have associated with him.

They thought/knew you were continuing to see him after that incident so they thought he was might be staying with you.

In any case ...... Wtaf has he done now?

Presumably all statements re his ex are long ago and all statements re the incident towards you was months ago/done and dusted (?) So it's something new.

If anything ever proved that you should go NC with this specimen, this is reinforcing it.

He is one cluster fuck disaster area of an individual.

He's amassing quite the rap sheet.

The police now know he doesn't live with you and never actually has, and that you're not seeing each other. I'd leave it at that and not have further contact with him.

Time to recover and get on with your life.

Time flies - make sure you don't waste anymore on this not relationship material specimen and the fucked up "relationships" he creates.

Ladolcevita233 · 01/01/2024 11:55

Btw to armchair psychologise ...... His behaviour all round suggests a significant personality disorder.

(Oh and I doubt anyone has ever broken one or more ribs when falling on top of someone whom they had jumped up on and put their legs around, who fell backwards - wouldn't they essentially cushion your fall?.
You saw what he was like in the car ..... And you'd only been with him for months, she had the misfortune to be with him for years from very young. I'd imagine her family could not be more relieved that she got away from him and is alive and well).

You know you should have gotten away from him when he admitted he was lying about her lying about the broken ribs and it being only a routine procedure hospital stay, then excusing it with a very hard to imagine scenario in which she jumped on him and ended up breaking her ribs when he fell back ... Combined with his behaviour in the car, not once but three times.

That's not even getting on to all the other stuff, the being perpetually broke and sponging off you, the disordered life, the possible drug issue etc.

This is months too late, but better late than never. Perhaps you need some counselling to deal with all this.

Ladolcevita233 · 01/01/2024 12:00

He has got into trouble again and given a false address

Or this is possible.

He didn't want to give them an address he could actually be found at, or get shit off his relatives for having the police turn up at their door.

LittleMissSunshiner · 01/01/2024 22:43

did you not ask more of the police ? And tell them you’re afraid of him ?

Did they have a warrant for arrest ? Something signed by a judge to bring him in for questioning? (aka ‘make a statement’)

on what sort of subject ? Are you sure he hasn’t used your address for anything?

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