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Locked out and took keys off me.

142 replies

MuddyPaws1993 · 16/12/2023 21:17

My husband has come home from football, drunk. When he’s drunk he’s really abusive.

This evening he has locked me out, taken all my house keys off me for our house and has told me I’m not allowed to come back. Our little girl who is 3 is in that house.

Is he lawfully allowed to lock me out, take my keys and tell me I’m not allowed to come back?

what leg do I have left to stand on?

OP posts:
Dotty87 · 17/12/2023 14:52

I'm so glad you managed to get her and yourself out of there, and that you're safe. Did you call the police?

jeaux90 · 17/12/2023 15:03

OP use the opportunity to call it a day on this abusive relationship.

Whatever he says this won't change.

Well done for getting out.

DragonMama3 · 17/12/2023 15:04

LadyEloise1 · 17/12/2023 10:04

I have to say I wondered too.

It's so hard to know...

DragonMama3 · 17/12/2023 15:05

Hiddenmnetter · 17/12/2023 09:03

Finding location from a phone is triangulation from a signal location by checking signal strength against multiple near towers, OR the phone has its GPS history available. Not from IP address. Most importantly of all, Mumsnet sure as shit can’t do any of this.

Your degree in criminology obviously left out some details about how person tracking works…

At 18, I was more interested in the male population of the University...

DragonMama3 · 17/12/2023 15:06

the police?

StaunchMomma · 17/12/2023 15:09

So glad you managed to get your DD and get out, OP.

Real shame you didn't ring the Police, though. If they had attended they would have written a report that this had happened, which would have been useful going forward.

You are in an abusive marriage. He isn't going to change.

JanuaryBug · 17/12/2023 15:15

Please do not go back into that situation. If you can stay at your mums then stay there until you seek legal advice on separating.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/12/2023 15:22

I agree it’s a shame you didn’t call the police. I can understand why. Your dd’s immediate safety was far more important. Please do not go back to him. He is horrible and abusive.

Needanewnamebeingwatched · 17/12/2023 18:23

You can still ring and report to the police, this relationship is no good for you or your child

grumpycow1 · 17/12/2023 20:04

Hello OP, please still log this with the police. He is abusing you, it’s not ok. Womens Aid are just a call away too. Hope you manage to get him out of your home for your daughter’s sake. Most abusers don’t just stop with their partner, they also abuse children eventually :(

Opentooffers · 17/12/2023 21:12

What to do is either find a way in, or phone the police if that fails. So now you know.
Next consider your situation. This needs to stop repeating as you say he's always like this when drunk. Just how often is he drunk? Who owns the house, who leaves, is the next question? If he refuses, it will have to be you that goes. So, could your mother put you up for a while till you get things sorted?
Somehow I doubt he's is suddenly DH of the century during sober times. I bet he shows distain generally, but at a low level, then can't repress it after he's has a few.

haXXor · 18/12/2023 03:13

DragonMama3 · 17/12/2023 08:57

police can find her location from her phone? degree in criminology

No.

Your phone talks to Mumsnet using something called "Transmission Control Protocol", which is part of the Internet Protocol Suite. TCP works the same way no matter whether your phone is using wifi or 5G to use the Internet

Cell phone triangulation, as used to find out where Jessica Chapman's phone was turned off, relies on cell phone providers' logs of which cell tower your phone is "associated with" (that's mobile telecoms speak for "currently making use of").

Your phone's current cell tower association is not provided to Mumsnet, so Mumsnet cannot know where you are.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 18/12/2023 03:46

MuddyPaws1993 · 17/12/2023 14:37

hi everyone. Some very mixed but thank you to all the ones who were so kind I appreciate you so much. It was a very hectic night and I didn’t get chance to post. I had managed to get in through the back of the house through the living room window. There’s 2 large windows and 1 little, I remembered I had left the little one open very very slightly. Husband fell asleep and little one was in bed. When he’s drunk it’s always me it’s taken out on. I managed to get her and took her to my mums house and we stayed the night there. I’m autistic so really struggle to cope with stress nevermind this and I just didn’t know what to do 😞

I’m autistic so really struggle to cope with stress

Same here, and I suspect that's why I understood straight away why you posted here instead of just calling the police.

I'm going to suggest that you get a notebook that will fit in your handbag and a pen, even if you have to buy them, and keep them with you at all times. Leave the first couple of pages blank for writing the table of contents as you go. Number and date the pages as you write in them.

Once you have those stationery items, take your time to write down a timeline of events last night, what order things happened in with rough times. If you have texts and calls in your phone history (perhaps you tried to phone him or someone else?), put those in too with their exact time and put in the times of your posts on this thread and the URL of the thread. Then you don't have to use mental energy trying to remember in days or weeks time what order things happened in and you can focus on leaving him.

Once you have written the timeline, call Women's Aid, and take notes during that call. I suggest that you then call the police on 101 because what your "D"H has done is abuse. If you choose to call the police, take notes during that call as well. The important call, now that you and DD are safe, is the call to Women's Aid, as they can advise you on your rights and what help is available to you.

What you should do immediately after that will depend upon what Women's Aid advise. At some point, when you have time, Advanced Search your username and any previous usernames you've used on here to find your previous posts about "D"H, as they give a partial timeline of his previous abuse. Again,

As insurance against losing the notebook, don't write your name or DD's names in it and take photographs of the pages as you fill them. The main point of it is as a tool to organise your thoughts and plan your exit from your marriage without having all your ideas buzzing around inside your head like a swarm of angry wasps.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 18/12/2023 03:55

Ulysees · 17/12/2023 13:03

It's not that people don't believe this happens. But it's the posting on MN rather than being sensible and ringing 999. It's the dd I'd be worried about.

The op has posted previously so probably is a genuine thread. That child needs protecting.

But you wouldn't phone 999 if you thought that men locking their DWs out of the house was normal, so if you weren't sure if it's normal or not, you'd check first.

And even if you were sure it wasn't normal, but:
a) you have a neurodivergent condition that means that you follow rules to the letter,
b) you've had it reinforced to you that 999 calls about not-crimes are deemed "false calls" and against the rules, and
c) you're not sure whether what your husband has done is actually illegal,

you'd check in the only place you could at that time of night, which is here.

This thread is a prime example of the double empathy problem.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 18/12/2023 04:21

If you believe in good faith that your child is at immediate risk, you can and should call the police. Child welfare trumps most other considerations. Domestic abuse is also a criminal offence worthy of a police call.

Hopefully you will never face a situation like this ever again, but if you do, you know that you can call 999 and you won't be placing a false call nor wasting police time.

emmetgirl · 18/12/2023 09:10

Is anyone else worried about OP? There's been no update. I hope she's ok.

Ofcourseshecan · 18/12/2023 09:14

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/12/2023 15:22

I agree it’s a shame you didn’t call the police. I can understand why. Your dd’s immediate safety was far more important. Please do not go back to him. He is horrible and abusive.

I agree.

Thanks for the update, OP. I’m glad you and DC are safe. Please don’t go back to this dangerous man.

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