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What makes somebody a serial cheat?

129 replies

TYb · 02/10/2023 07:40

Why do you think they do it?

Selfishness?
Ego?
Insecurity?
Immaturity?

Just pondering over my cereal why my DC's father was never 'able' to keep it in his pants.

OP posts:
GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 11:53

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 09:28

I'm gonna be hated for this...But

Why should we be limited to being with one person?

Such a societal and human condition.

I completely understand it is deemed as wrong and I don't subscribe to it. But....

Women cheat as much as men.

Everybody is different and wants different things from life. Society and rules condition us to think it is wrong.

It takes a village to raise a child, in many tribes they don't even know who the father is.

Not condoning cheating. I just find it fascinating that it's an actual thing that humans need that loyalty.

Then practice ethical non monogamy.

These guys are not.

And do you know why they're not .....

Because they want multiple women but they don't want to share those women. The don't want 'their" women to have other men.

It's the most laughably naive thing to think that polygamy would solve cheating .... Cheaters don't want polygamy, male cheaters want polygyny. Big difference.

Cheaters on general want to cake eat ... And most of them would be extremely upset and often violent if they were being run alongside other men or women.

Oh and btw monogamy - for a period anyway - is absolutely the most natural and evolutionary thing.

Not a social construct. It's about reproduction and resources and survival. People who claim it's a social construct have their head in the clouds.

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 11:59

It takes a village to raise a child, in many tribes they don't even know who the father is.

Most children are not raised by a "village".

They are raised by the parents grandparents and close relatives. Even in primitive times, and most definitely in modern societies.

And that's not true about fathers in tribes either. Wives, single or multiple are "taken" by men in tribes and the penalties for sex with other men are usually severe.
They are not ok with taking on other men's children, even from previous relationships - they get farmed out to relatives or at worst abandoned.

All the fkg time.

It has always been of the utmost importance to most men to know they are not cucks, putting resources into other men's kids.

It has always been of the utmost importance to women to try to secure a man's resources for her kids with him.

Children usually resemble their parents strongly too.

You seem woefully uneducated about anthropological and social history.

Sapphire3 · 02/10/2023 12:01

@Lucious1000 lack of sleep, or lack of morals? Nobody’s forcing you into society’s box, just most people don’t want to share a partner or be shared, they want a real connection and family structure, to have kids and raise them in stability. Society thinks a certain way because of the majority.

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 12:02

It's a man

Spouting nonsense all over MN.

Why don't they just fuck off.

PaintedEgg · 02/10/2023 12:13

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 11:16

Read my other comment.

I'm not going to get into an argument. I'd prefer a discussion

this is not a thread about why monogamy exists - this thread is about people who enter those monogamous relationships with no intention of being monogamous

and part of the reason why they do that is that they themselves want exclusivity from their partners, otherwise they'd just be in open relationships

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 12:35

and part of the reason why they do that is that they themselves want exclusivity from their partners, otherwise they'd just be in open relationship

Exactly.

They could be polygamous all they wanted ... There's a community.

They don't want to be polygamous, they want all the benefits of monogamy for themselves while not tolerating the disadvantages and sacrifices of monogamy for them.

Most men I know who are cheaters and sleazes are possessive of their partners and have massive double standards for them. My mum has three sisters and the only two who don't socialise alone - because they are heavily "discouraged" from socialising alone, have cheating, sleazy, sex industry using husbands. And they are double standarded, jealous, posessive, controlling men.

Look at what men with ultimate power in past times did - kept hundreds of women in harems , fucked their way through them and produced hundreds of kids with them; while it was punishable by death if the women interacted with another man. They even castrated their guards and used guards of different races so it would be obvious if they'd had sex and fathered any kids in the harem.

That's what these men are a low income, Jeremy Kyle version of.

They don't want polygamy.

Cheating is not because monogamy is forced on them. They want & choose monogamy, just a fake, one sided, manipulative version of it where they sacrifice nothing to get what they want from their partners.

GreyCarpet · 02/10/2023 12:54

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 09:28

I'm gonna be hated for this...But

Why should we be limited to being with one person?

Such a societal and human condition.

I completely understand it is deemed as wrong and I don't subscribe to it. But....

Women cheat as much as men.

Everybody is different and wants different things from life. Society and rules condition us to think it is wrong.

It takes a village to raise a child, in many tribes they don't even know who the father is.

Not condoning cheating. I just find it fascinating that it's an actual thing that humans need that loyalty.

You're notngoing to be hated for it but those people shouldntnget married in that case. Not when the vows include the line 'forsaking all others' and the other party has entered into it believing that both parties ae on board with it.

Marriage isn't necessary or a requirement.

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 15:12

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GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 16:05

No-one is a Nazi for pointing out that you're talking shite.

What a lazy and offensive label to give ppl who call you out on your BS.

Noone who actually knew anything about what the Nazis did would use that label.... So you're ignorant about that too apparently.

Either that or you're actually disrespectful & inappropriate enough to use a label referring to perpetrators of mass genocide on people who disagree with your (ill thought out) opinions.

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 16:07

have been hated into deleting this app many many times.

You don't say.

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 16:09

Women cheat as much as men

There are no stats that back up that statement.

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:10

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 16:05

No-one is a Nazi for pointing out that you're talking shite.

What a lazy and offensive label to give ppl who call you out on your BS.

Noone who actually knew anything about what the Nazis did would use that label.... So you're ignorant about that too apparently.

Either that or you're actually disrespectful & inappropriate enough to use a label referring to perpetrators of mass genocide on people who disagree with your (ill thought out) opinions.

Edited

Here we go.

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:11

GilbertMarkham · 02/10/2023 16:09

Women cheat as much as men

There are no stats that back up that statement.

nypost.com/2022/08/23/women-are-more-likely-to-cheat-than-men-heres-why/amp/

PaintedEgg · 02/10/2023 16:19

@Lucious1000 was it you who wrote a post about your partner calling you arrogant?

CandyLeBonBon · 02/10/2023 16:24

Oh behave yourself @Lucious1000

I was cheated on by a serial cheat who, whilst not being able to keep his dick in his pants all the time we were together had the bloody nerve to go full on batshit crazy unhinged stalker type (successfully prosecuted and everything) because I finally finished it and he couldn't beat the idea of me moving on with someone else.

If you want to be in a polycule, go for it, but make sure everyone is on the same page. Pretending to be monogamous when your partner has no idea you don't mean it is just shitty lowlife behaviour.

So take your insults and share them elsewhere.

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:25

PaintedEgg · 02/10/2023 16:19

@Lucious1000 was it you who wrote a post about your partner calling you arrogant?

It was.

She thought I came across as arrogant, but then she met me and realised I'm far from it. Her words not mine.

Lost in txtstraltion

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:27

I REALLY wish people would find the post that I made saying I was WRONG and agreed with another poster.

Of course that is toooooo much to ask on Mumsnet.

Better to just read a quote and hate

CandyLeBonBon · 02/10/2023 16:33

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:27

I REALLY wish people would find the post that I made saying I was WRONG and agreed with another poster.

Of course that is toooooo much to ask on Mumsnet.

Better to just read a quote and hate

The minute you start calling people nazis you lose any goodwill you may otherwise have been granted. Them's the breaks.

jlpth · 02/10/2023 16:34

Selfish, ego

therefore own desires put above spouse/family

PaintedEgg · 02/10/2023 16:35

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:27

I REALLY wish people would find the post that I made saying I was WRONG and agreed with another poster.

Of course that is toooooo much to ask on Mumsnet.

Better to just read a quote and hate

i really wish people could read and didn't go off topic on a long rant about society expectations (and still being wrong) but we cannot have it all, right?

OhWellNeverMindMoveOn · 02/10/2023 16:42

I wish I knew.

My ExH has left a trail of emotional devastation behind him now for over 20 years. Multiple OW, partners, 'step children', and devastated elderly parents. The DC can't stand him.

He's still got (yet another) partner and step child though. She sold her house to move in with him. She must be mistaking arrogance for personality. God knows.

HoneyBadgerMom · 02/10/2023 16:43

Selfishness, egomania, childish mindset.

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:43

Isn't this place about being heard?

I had a moment and I apologised for it.

I'm more than happy to admit I'm wrong and move on!!

Lucious1000 · 02/10/2023 16:44

Now I'm getting ABUSE

Moveoverdarlin · 02/10/2023 16:45

Boredom and ego.