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Left emotionally abusive husband, please help

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YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 07:30

Please help, I feel so low.

been with my husband for 10 years. Looking back, I now realise the relationship has been emotionally abusive for some time. There were red flags from the start but things have got much worse over the past few years.

He left the military a few years ago and during this time he became very depressed, refused to accept that he was depressed and blamed me instead for how he is feeling. He used to shut himself in his study for days on end without leaving the house and cut all contact with family and friends. He told me he wanted a divorce - I found it so difficult to come to terms with as I knew how depressed he was and was worried about him. His behaviour towards me was very erratic and difficult to understand - he’d tell me he hated me some days but then bring flowers the next day and tell me how amazing I was.

He was offered a very good job in London and his mood quickly improved. we decided to give it another go and moved there together last summer. I fell pregnant just after we moved and suddenly his mood changed again (coincided with stress of new job) and he told me he wanted to separate again. He told me he didn’t want a baby and put pressure on me to order the termination pills online, but then wouldn’t engage in any constructive conversation around what to do. Every time I asked he blew up and said I was putting pressure on him and should understand how stressed he was.

he left me waiting for 14 weeks before deciding whether to go ahead together with the pregnancy. During this time I’d been so unwell with vomiting I’d lost a lot of weight and been hospitalised with a kidney infection as I was too weak to walk out to the shops for food some days and was too delayed collecting my antibiotics because I was so depressed and weak. Throughout my pregnancy he often had angry outbursts and was very verbally abusive (‘I hate you, you’ve ruined my life, I want this baby but wish it wasn’t happening with you, you’ve got the IQ of a slug etc). One time when I was 6 months pregnant I didn’t want to engage in the argument he was trying to start so I pretended to be asleep and he started shoving my shoulder to try and get a reaction.

I had our baby in April and he’s the best thing that ever happened to me. He was born prematurely and was extremely low birthweight (he weighed 3lb). My husband was immediately besotted with him and is now absolutely obsessed with him. Immediately after the birth he was very supportive but then old habits crept in. When our baby was 9 days old we went for coffee and he was criticising everything I did for the baby. I politely said I’m ok, I can handle this, you’re making me feel like you don’t trust me to look after him’. He flew off the handle and said I was being ungrateful because he’d been so supportive, and stormed out of the cafe with the baby in the pram. I ran after them and he punched my coffee out of my hand. He then stormed off and I had to walk home alone dripping in coffee as I couldn’t keep up (I’d had an emergency c section).

when the baby was 6 weeks old he flew off the handle and told me to leave, but that I wasn’t allowed to leave London with the baby and had to go and rent a flat round the corner. I left and went to stay with my mum two hours drive away. He was furious and demanded I returned as I’d ‘kidnapped his child’. I felt so guilty I went back.

sonce then his behaviour has been erratic, he is very hostile toward me and is still regularly verbally abusive. He tells me we must stay together as outcomes for the baby will be disastrous if we don’t. He tells me that if I ever want warmth or affection from him again I have to earn it.

he is now two weeks into his delayed paternity leave and has 6 weeks off. He’s behaving a bit strangely and I feel he knows I want to leave. I Ieft my laptop open when I went out the other day and he went through it. Id been emailing a solicitor I’ve spoken to and had emailed to ask how I could safely leave london and return to my home town two hours away where I still have a job, a house (it’s currently rented out) and family / friends relatively nearby. I’m unsure whether he saw these emails but he willl have looked at the search history and I’d been looking at properties in my hometown too.

A few days ago he was his usual critical and intimidating self, and something inside snapped. He went out with friends for the evening and I packed some essentials and drove me and the baby to our hometown three hours away. Predictably he has gone absolutely ballistic and is demanding I bring the baby back. If I return then my solicitor told me he could take out a prohibited steps order preventing me from leaving London with the baby until it’s been to court which could take up to 12 months, so I’d be stuck there until then. Financially it would be so difficult for me to live in London, and I worry I’d be under his control.

i feel sick. Incredibly guilty that I’ve uprooted my baby from his home and now living out of a bag in a spare room. Incredibly guilty that I’ve denied my husband his paternity leave. Broken from being emotionally ground down for so long.

I feel so depressed and at risk of just returning to London. Please help me.

thanks for listening

OP posts:
Crunchingleaf · 11/10/2023 11:39

OP you’re going to need to block him, if you have been advised not to then mute him.
On my phone I have my Ex ‘muted’ for texts and with no ring tone for calls. I also changed his name to his initials. It was less triggering that way. His texts still arrive and I read them on my terms.

RandomMess · 11/10/2023 11:44

It is worth it.

It's difficult and painful but very worth it.

Please look at doing the Freedom Program now.

Please speak to Rights of Women and get a non-harassment order. This is all more evidence of how abusive he is and will protect you and DC.

Please block him. All contact via your solicitor or your Mum. He has no justification for bullying and harassing you.

He will have contact with DC in due course. It's just an excuse to continue to bully you.

He is angry that you dared to leave him, he thought you would stay and be his whipping boy forever.

It's not love or caring it's about him having power.

Quitelikeit · 11/10/2023 13:14

You need to block him.

He is dangerous. He won’t change.

Please don’t go back

Loubelle70 · 11/10/2023 13:16

If he texts again...tell him(only once..dont get into conversation ) not to keep harassing you and to go through his solicitor. If he contacts you after that warning, seek a non molestation order.

Loubelle70 · 11/10/2023 13:17

And contact us at womens aid for support. You're doing right thing..for you and DC

jellajello · 11/10/2023 13:35

Just seen this, and I see you've had good advice but haven't read it all. I would reiterate please contact your local Women's Aid or Domestic Abuse service where you are. Google domestic abuse services in your home town and a number will pop up, they will talk to you, support you and help you with legal aid. What you say about how you feel is totally normal - it's a storm, and you will feel rudderless, you've been criticised and broken down by this man. The Refuge website is there for you (list of local services doesn't seem to work for me at the moment) or try calling the Live fear free helpline in Wales on 0808 801 0800 and ask them for details of UK services (lovely kind women will talk to you in complete confidence). You do have support remember that, and you can talk through your feelings and fears as long as you want. All best as you navigate this. x

Frazzledandfried · 11/10/2023 14:30

Do not let him threaten you. This man sounds dangerous as fuck and he is doing everything he can think of to scare you into coming back.
I think you should be reporting to the police. It is as bad as you remembered it to be initially and it really sounds like he wouldn't think twice about hurting you or taking your baby boy away from you if it's not supervised contact. Please don't be intimidated into going back. You're in charge now and it's your job to keep yourself and your baby safe. From what you've said I would genuinely fear for your safety if you went back to him. You've been so strong so far, don't waver now.

Spencer0220 · 11/10/2023 14:40

Massive hugs OP.

You know you are doing the right thing. We are all here to support you.

Don't be put off by the letter from his solicitor. It's likely they don't know the full story

Redruby2020 · 11/10/2023 14:59

YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 11:55

@ElephantGrey101 thanks for sharing this. I’m so sorry you went through this too, and glad to know it gets easier. I feel sick because I want my son to have a great relationship with his father and to avoid and contact centres etc. he’s a terrible husband but a good father to our son. I’m worried that restricted access wouldn’t be good for either of them. I’m so scared of his reaction once the solicitor outlines my reasons for leaving.

Edited

But this tells you everything, you are scared and if he is not abusive why would he react 🤷🏻‍♀️ exactly!
Sorry but good fathers but abusive partner don't have two different sides, if they can do what they do to the mother they can do anything.
And they often carry things on through the child after you split.
You have done very well to get away, do not return!
Take all support and help/advice available to you!

StrawberryWater · 11/10/2023 17:22

Op if you haven’t already go and see your GP for a wellness check for you and the baby (to say you’re not suffering from mental health issues, post natal issues and baby is thriving etc etc) and get it in writing so you can give it to your solicitor. He’s already bringing it up that you have issues so nip it in the bud asap so his solicitor can’t use it as a tactic.

YogiBear2018 · 22/10/2023 04:22

Hi everyone, thanks for all your support and words of encouragement. You’ve all helped me more than you’ll ever know. I’m now almost 4 weeks in. Some days I feel like I’m making progress, other days I feel so depressed I’m not sure how I’ll make it through the day. My husband was ringing and texting a lot to tell me how much he misses us both and that he wants to make it work. I’m just not sure I believe him - he’s saying he’s ‘sorry that I feel this way’ (not sorry for his behaviour) one minute, and then sending me very factual and formal texts that he’ll obviously use in court, mainly accusing me of withholding contact with our baby and breaking up our family.

my solicitor has now advised that we don’t have contact at all, so I followed her advice. I feel sad that he’s going to miss out on so many of our baby’s firsts. We’re still staying with my mum and she’s been fantastic, but I knew I needed to create our own space so I put an offer on a rental property and it’s been accepted. I’m now panicking about whether I can afford it, and struggling with the concept of making such a big decision without his approval.

sorry for the rant with no real focus, just needed to get some words out!

OP posts:
Totaly · 22/10/2023 07:08

Teaming up with an abusive man is very much like breaking an addiction, you are constantly thinking about him, his needs, his wants, his opinion, you have been conditioned to do so.

I hope you are feeling so much better and in 12 months you’ll re-read this and wonder why you were so worried.

Nobody can force you back - that’s not going g to happen. The courts see this type of manipulative behaviour all the time. Even the texts accusing you of being mentally unstable are typical of his manipulation. He’s so used to getting his own way, that now that isn’t happening it must be your fault.

You can do this, you’ll find more friends and build your own community. Let go of any guilt. You’ll also fine that you are so used to running on adrenaline that your body is withdrawing f from that as you start to relax - it takes time.

YogiBear2018 · 22/10/2023 07:33

@Totaly thanks so much. You’re definitely right about the adrenaline. I can feel myself start to relax but every time I see his name on my phone or have to have any dealings with him my heart races, I start sweating and feel sick 😰 I’m scared because he’s so good at manipulating me I was finding myself agreeing to all sorts of things and really questioning myself, as well as feeling horrific after speaking to him. That’s why my solicitor said no contact now.

OP posts:
Outwiththenorm · 22/10/2023 08:08

You’ve done so well, Op. I hope the hardest is over now.

Comtesse · 22/10/2023 11:52

Keep swimming OP. You have already got through so much.

Your husband is a nasty bully. At this point I think I would block him. This is harassment not well-meaning communication.

keffie12 · 22/10/2023 13:14

YogiBear2018 · 22/10/2023 07:33

@Totaly thanks so much. You’re definitely right about the adrenaline. I can feel myself start to relax but every time I see his name on my phone or have to have any dealings with him my heart races, I start sweating and feel sick 😰 I’m scared because he’s so good at manipulating me I was finding myself agreeing to all sorts of things and really questioning myself, as well as feeling horrific after speaking to him. That’s why my solicitor said no contact now.

I'm pleased to hear your solicitor has confirmed what we all said about nc. I hope you have now blocked him. Well done on 4 weeks, taking it One Day At A Time.

Treat yourself like you have been in intensive care. It takes time to feel better again.

You're doing well. It's OK to feel sad. However, allow yourself the opposite side of relief and freedom for your baby and you.

He won't grow up thinking abuse is normal now. You have left. Keep us informed of how you're getting on from time to time, please 🙏

MsRosley · 22/10/2023 17:47

YogiBear2018 · 22/10/2023 04:22

Hi everyone, thanks for all your support and words of encouragement. You’ve all helped me more than you’ll ever know. I’m now almost 4 weeks in. Some days I feel like I’m making progress, other days I feel so depressed I’m not sure how I’ll make it through the day. My husband was ringing and texting a lot to tell me how much he misses us both and that he wants to make it work. I’m just not sure I believe him - he’s saying he’s ‘sorry that I feel this way’ (not sorry for his behaviour) one minute, and then sending me very factual and formal texts that he’ll obviously use in court, mainly accusing me of withholding contact with our baby and breaking up our family.

my solicitor has now advised that we don’t have contact at all, so I followed her advice. I feel sad that he’s going to miss out on so many of our baby’s firsts. We’re still staying with my mum and she’s been fantastic, but I knew I needed to create our own space so I put an offer on a rental property and it’s been accepted. I’m now panicking about whether I can afford it, and struggling with the concept of making such a big decision without his approval.

sorry for the rant with no real focus, just needed to get some words out!

Stay firm. Do not believe him when he's playing nice.

AdamRyan · 22/10/2023 18:07

Well done OP - and well done for renting your place. Keep on moving forwards - it's going to be great to have your own space.

Mumtime2 · 22/10/2023 18:29

I'm so glad to read you have a job, house, family.
The guilt and hurt need to be kept at bay while you get yourself settled because you are doing the right thing for both yourself & baby.
Please seek out someone to reassure you and counsel you out of this mess he has made of your mind.
Well done op.
Legally can an arrangement be made visits for baby with someone supporting you so you are not alone or tormented by him.
Otherwise if this is out of the question stay put, keep moving forward!.

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