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Left emotionally abusive husband, please help

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YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 07:30

Please help, I feel so low.

been with my husband for 10 years. Looking back, I now realise the relationship has been emotionally abusive for some time. There were red flags from the start but things have got much worse over the past few years.

He left the military a few years ago and during this time he became very depressed, refused to accept that he was depressed and blamed me instead for how he is feeling. He used to shut himself in his study for days on end without leaving the house and cut all contact with family and friends. He told me he wanted a divorce - I found it so difficult to come to terms with as I knew how depressed he was and was worried about him. His behaviour towards me was very erratic and difficult to understand - he’d tell me he hated me some days but then bring flowers the next day and tell me how amazing I was.

He was offered a very good job in London and his mood quickly improved. we decided to give it another go and moved there together last summer. I fell pregnant just after we moved and suddenly his mood changed again (coincided with stress of new job) and he told me he wanted to separate again. He told me he didn’t want a baby and put pressure on me to order the termination pills online, but then wouldn’t engage in any constructive conversation around what to do. Every time I asked he blew up and said I was putting pressure on him and should understand how stressed he was.

he left me waiting for 14 weeks before deciding whether to go ahead together with the pregnancy. During this time I’d been so unwell with vomiting I’d lost a lot of weight and been hospitalised with a kidney infection as I was too weak to walk out to the shops for food some days and was too delayed collecting my antibiotics because I was so depressed and weak. Throughout my pregnancy he often had angry outbursts and was very verbally abusive (‘I hate you, you’ve ruined my life, I want this baby but wish it wasn’t happening with you, you’ve got the IQ of a slug etc). One time when I was 6 months pregnant I didn’t want to engage in the argument he was trying to start so I pretended to be asleep and he started shoving my shoulder to try and get a reaction.

I had our baby in April and he’s the best thing that ever happened to me. He was born prematurely and was extremely low birthweight (he weighed 3lb). My husband was immediately besotted with him and is now absolutely obsessed with him. Immediately after the birth he was very supportive but then old habits crept in. When our baby was 9 days old we went for coffee and he was criticising everything I did for the baby. I politely said I’m ok, I can handle this, you’re making me feel like you don’t trust me to look after him’. He flew off the handle and said I was being ungrateful because he’d been so supportive, and stormed out of the cafe with the baby in the pram. I ran after them and he punched my coffee out of my hand. He then stormed off and I had to walk home alone dripping in coffee as I couldn’t keep up (I’d had an emergency c section).

when the baby was 6 weeks old he flew off the handle and told me to leave, but that I wasn’t allowed to leave London with the baby and had to go and rent a flat round the corner. I left and went to stay with my mum two hours drive away. He was furious and demanded I returned as I’d ‘kidnapped his child’. I felt so guilty I went back.

sonce then his behaviour has been erratic, he is very hostile toward me and is still regularly verbally abusive. He tells me we must stay together as outcomes for the baby will be disastrous if we don’t. He tells me that if I ever want warmth or affection from him again I have to earn it.

he is now two weeks into his delayed paternity leave and has 6 weeks off. He’s behaving a bit strangely and I feel he knows I want to leave. I Ieft my laptop open when I went out the other day and he went through it. Id been emailing a solicitor I’ve spoken to and had emailed to ask how I could safely leave london and return to my home town two hours away where I still have a job, a house (it’s currently rented out) and family / friends relatively nearby. I’m unsure whether he saw these emails but he willl have looked at the search history and I’d been looking at properties in my hometown too.

A few days ago he was his usual critical and intimidating self, and something inside snapped. He went out with friends for the evening and I packed some essentials and drove me and the baby to our hometown three hours away. Predictably he has gone absolutely ballistic and is demanding I bring the baby back. If I return then my solicitor told me he could take out a prohibited steps order preventing me from leaving London with the baby until it’s been to court which could take up to 12 months, so I’d be stuck there until then. Financially it would be so difficult for me to live in London, and I worry I’d be under his control.

i feel sick. Incredibly guilty that I’ve uprooted my baby from his home and now living out of a bag in a spare room. Incredibly guilty that I’ve denied my husband his paternity leave. Broken from being emotionally ground down for so long.

I feel so depressed and at risk of just returning to London. Please help me.

thanks for listening

OP posts:
keffie12 · 08/10/2023 11:13

Yes I have said it does. It's been a week. It doesn't get better that quick. If you went back it would be worse. It will get back. This to will pass. For every year you have been with him, thank goodness it doesn't take that long to start feeling better.

Remember my story, hidden homeless, children in the care system for 18 months and all that to sort too. Thats what can come with keep going back, as I did.

Your no longer a prisoner of him. \Look at what you have got. Not what you haven't. Make a gratitude list

A roof over your head
Your baby with you
Support of family and friends
Not having to live in a refuge co you have got your mom
Food in your stomach
All the things that come with having a roof over your head such as a shower, toilet etc. There are people in the world who don't have what you have.
That was what | was told to do, make a gratitude list daily so I could learn to look back to life and smile.

Give time, time hey please

Redlarge · 08/10/2023 12:19

YogiBear2018 · 08/10/2023 08:31

Has anyone been through this with a small baby and has a positive story to tell please? I feel like every day is darker and it’s just getting worse not better. I’ve done everything people have advised me, rang womens aid, got a solicitor, staying with my mum for support, viewing houses to find a more stable base.

desperate to hear it gets better.

thank you 🙏🏼

Speak to your doctor for support. You will get through this x

AdamRyan · 09/10/2023 10:57

How are you doing today yogi? What have you got planned for the week?

YogiBear2018 · 09/10/2023 17:46

@AdamRyan thanks for checking in. Today I’ve been to view a few houses which feels productive. Just feel too scared to go ahead and rent one as I’m so used to having to run everything by him! I’ve had another message from him demanding that I bring the baby home and if not he will immediately send me some legal correspondence which will order me to bring him back to London. Feel scared about the journey ahead.

OP posts:
Loubelle70 · 09/10/2023 18:48

YogiBear2018 · 09/10/2023 17:46

@AdamRyan thanks for checking in. Today I’ve been to view a few houses which feels productive. Just feel too scared to go ahead and rent one as I’m so used to having to run everything by him! I’ve had another message from him demanding that I bring the baby home and if not he will immediately send me some legal correspondence which will order me to bring him back to London. Feel scared about the journey ahead.

He can't do that OP. Only if you propose to moved abroad does he have a case, youre not so he doesn't. Its all yap to force you back...tbh hes digging himself a deeper hole legally, because you have proof (texts etc c) hes bullying, trying blackmail...the courts do not look kindly upon that.
Youre safe OP. Go breathe and look at it as a fresh start without abuse xx

AdamRyan · 10/10/2023 09:55

YogiBear2018 · 09/10/2023 17:46

@AdamRyan thanks for checking in. Today I’ve been to view a few houses which feels productive. Just feel too scared to go ahead and rent one as I’m so used to having to run everything by him! I’ve had another message from him demanding that I bring the baby home and if not he will immediately send me some legal correspondence which will order me to bring him back to London. Feel scared about the journey ahead.

Right! Time to start breaking his stranglehold...its renting so the worst that can happen is you move in, don't like the house but have to stay for 6 months!
So if there's one you like, start thinking about what you can do to turn it into a nice home for you and baby. Get on marketplace/free cycle and see what cheap furniture/furnishings you can pick up. The British heart foundation furniture stores are good too!
Then baby steps...just rent one. Force yourself over the threshold of the agents, sign the paperwork. It's the hardest bit, I remember that feeling well. But then you'll have your new home to focus on...

Mmhmmn · 10/10/2023 10:03

You did absolutely the right thing in leaving and getting yourself and your baby out of there. He is violent, abusive and unstable. He’ll do what he’ll do, just keep in touch with your solicitor. Are you staying with family, do they understand what he’s like and what he’s been doing?

Summer2424 · 10/10/2023 10:16

Hi @YogiBear2018
You're doing so great, there's nothing like the feeling of peace and being able to breathe. Also, being able to focus on yourself and baby without all the stress. Enjoy every moment going forward x

YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 10:59

Thank you @AdamRyan @Summer2424 @Mmhmmn . so good knowing there are people out there supporting me!

Yesterday I had a barrage of texts from him threatening legal action unless I return. today I’ve had a letter from his solicitor demanding I return the baby to London by tomorrow otherwise they will ask the courts to demand I return him. They have accused me of child abduction. Obviously have asked my solicitor to respond!

OP posts:
YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 11:07

@Mmhmmn yes I’m staying with family and they understand the situation and are being very supportive. I know I’ll feel better once in my own space but taking the steps to do this feel daunting!

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Summer2424 · 10/10/2023 11:08

@YogiBear2018
Child abduction! Absolutely ridiculous!
You've done the best thing for your baby, getting out of there to a safe peaceful environment. Enjoy your day with your baby xx

AdamRyan · 10/10/2023 11:23

YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 10:59

Thank you @AdamRyan @Summer2424 @Mmhmmn . so good knowing there are people out there supporting me!

Yesterday I had a barrage of texts from him threatening legal action unless I return. today I’ve had a letter from his solicitor demanding I return the baby to London by tomorrow otherwise they will ask the courts to demand I return him. They have accused me of child abduction. Obviously have asked my solicitor to respond!

I'd just let him carry on with this! You have plenty of evidence that he is abusive and you've tried to facilitate him seeing the baby. He's just throwing money at something that makes him look even more ridiculous in court.
Alternatively you could speak to your solicitor about what legal avenues you have. Maybe a non-molestation order?

Loubelle70 · 10/10/2023 11:41

YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 10:59

Thank you @AdamRyan @Summer2424 @Mmhmmn . so good knowing there are people out there supporting me!

Yesterday I had a barrage of texts from him threatening legal action unless I return. today I’ve had a letter from his solicitor demanding I return the baby to London by tomorrow otherwise they will ask the courts to demand I return him. They have accused me of child abduction. Obviously have asked my solicitor to respond!

They're not allowed to do that. It would have to go to court. They cannot tell you to go back. Get your solicitor to write letter to his solicitor outlining the abuse youve suffered and show them the bullying texts . You dont legally have to go back at all.

Loubelle70 · 10/10/2023 11:43

They can only accuse you of child abduction if you leave the country. Even if there was a court order in place for him to see baby , a solicitor letter wouldn't do that...he would have to take it back to court ... he hasn't even been to coury yet. Its coercion to get you back. Stay where you are.

ElephantGrey101 · 10/10/2023 11:43

I have left with a young baby. It is hard but it gets easier. I did not go back and did not allow him to have unsupervised contact with the baby.
I would go to the police. Tell him that you are only prepared to give him contact in a contact centre ( the most secure type) due to the fact he has attacked you while holding your baby. One you have informed him of this block his texts.

Loubelle70 · 10/10/2023 11:44

If he texts again..tell him(only once..dont get into conversation ) not to keep harassing you and to go through his solicitor. If he contacts you after that warning, seek a non molestation order.

YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 11:55

@ElephantGrey101 thanks for sharing this. I’m so sorry you went through this too, and glad to know it gets easier. I feel sick because I want my son to have a great relationship with his father and to avoid and contact centres etc. he’s a terrible husband but a good father to our son. I’m worried that restricted access wouldn’t be good for either of them. I’m so scared of his reaction once the solicitor outlines my reasons for leaving.

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ElephantGrey101 · 10/10/2023 11:58

It is worth knowing that you can get divorced without him knowing your address as there is abuse. Don’t tell him your new address ( I presume he knows where your family are). Every day you don’t have contact with him improves your mental health. You are constantly under stress as you are used to giving in to his every demand.

Lavenderosa · 10/10/2023 12:06

"he’s a terrible husband but a good father to our son"

He is NOT a good father to your son. What 'good father' grabs a 5 week old breast feeding baby from his mother and threatens to feed him formula so he doesn't need his mother? What 'good father' treats his baby's mother the way he treats you? You can't trust him to return the baby to you if he has unsupervised contact. For your baby's welfare and your own sake, please insist on supervised contact and keep well away from him.

Quitelikeit · 10/10/2023 12:15

Please please understand this man is dysfunctional and will remain so. He has clearly witnessed abuse growing up and he is now a product of that.

If you take your child back there and resume the relationship your child will also turn into his father and that’s how the subsidise cycle gets passed down the generations.

Do not believe that this man can change - he cannot undo the seeds of his character that were sown many years ago as a child.

I understand your head is all over the place right now and I wonder if you would consider taking some SSRIs for a few months to help stabilise your thoughts.

Start looking to the future - your home, your job, nurseries

You will get through this

Quitelikeit · 10/10/2023 12:16

Abusive not subsides

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 10/10/2023 12:22

YogiBear2018 · 10/10/2023 11:55

@ElephantGrey101 thanks for sharing this. I’m so sorry you went through this too, and glad to know it gets easier. I feel sick because I want my son to have a great relationship with his father and to avoid and contact centres etc. he’s a terrible husband but a good father to our son. I’m worried that restricted access wouldn’t be good for either of them. I’m so scared of his reaction once the solicitor outlines my reasons for leaving.

Edited

Well done on getting out but please be reassured that this man is NOT a good father to his son. No good father would treat their child’s mother this way. This stuff matters. YOU matter.

YogiBear2018 · 11/10/2023 10:57

Day 13. Every part of my body hurts. Not slept a wink. He continues to text and call me continuously. Waiting for my solicitor to send his solicitor a letter stating I left due to domestic abuse - he’s going to go beserk.

now questioning whether he was that bad and if it was worth it.

m sorry to be a drain, just need to get it out somewhere.

OP posts:
twinklystar23 · 11/10/2023 11:17

I've only read the first page so it's probably been recommended to apply for a non-molestation order. You can do this if you need help with women's Aid or national domestic violence service. I think the government website has I formation on this. However be sure to try and EVIDENCE if he breaks it.

Good luck

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