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Left emotionally abusive husband, please help

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YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 07:30

Please help, I feel so low.

been with my husband for 10 years. Looking back, I now realise the relationship has been emotionally abusive for some time. There were red flags from the start but things have got much worse over the past few years.

He left the military a few years ago and during this time he became very depressed, refused to accept that he was depressed and blamed me instead for how he is feeling. He used to shut himself in his study for days on end without leaving the house and cut all contact with family and friends. He told me he wanted a divorce - I found it so difficult to come to terms with as I knew how depressed he was and was worried about him. His behaviour towards me was very erratic and difficult to understand - he’d tell me he hated me some days but then bring flowers the next day and tell me how amazing I was.

He was offered a very good job in London and his mood quickly improved. we decided to give it another go and moved there together last summer. I fell pregnant just after we moved and suddenly his mood changed again (coincided with stress of new job) and he told me he wanted to separate again. He told me he didn’t want a baby and put pressure on me to order the termination pills online, but then wouldn’t engage in any constructive conversation around what to do. Every time I asked he blew up and said I was putting pressure on him and should understand how stressed he was.

he left me waiting for 14 weeks before deciding whether to go ahead together with the pregnancy. During this time I’d been so unwell with vomiting I’d lost a lot of weight and been hospitalised with a kidney infection as I was too weak to walk out to the shops for food some days and was too delayed collecting my antibiotics because I was so depressed and weak. Throughout my pregnancy he often had angry outbursts and was very verbally abusive (‘I hate you, you’ve ruined my life, I want this baby but wish it wasn’t happening with you, you’ve got the IQ of a slug etc). One time when I was 6 months pregnant I didn’t want to engage in the argument he was trying to start so I pretended to be asleep and he started shoving my shoulder to try and get a reaction.

I had our baby in April and he’s the best thing that ever happened to me. He was born prematurely and was extremely low birthweight (he weighed 3lb). My husband was immediately besotted with him and is now absolutely obsessed with him. Immediately after the birth he was very supportive but then old habits crept in. When our baby was 9 days old we went for coffee and he was criticising everything I did for the baby. I politely said I’m ok, I can handle this, you’re making me feel like you don’t trust me to look after him’. He flew off the handle and said I was being ungrateful because he’d been so supportive, and stormed out of the cafe with the baby in the pram. I ran after them and he punched my coffee out of my hand. He then stormed off and I had to walk home alone dripping in coffee as I couldn’t keep up (I’d had an emergency c section).

when the baby was 6 weeks old he flew off the handle and told me to leave, but that I wasn’t allowed to leave London with the baby and had to go and rent a flat round the corner. I left and went to stay with my mum two hours drive away. He was furious and demanded I returned as I’d ‘kidnapped his child’. I felt so guilty I went back.

sonce then his behaviour has been erratic, he is very hostile toward me and is still regularly verbally abusive. He tells me we must stay together as outcomes for the baby will be disastrous if we don’t. He tells me that if I ever want warmth or affection from him again I have to earn it.

he is now two weeks into his delayed paternity leave and has 6 weeks off. He’s behaving a bit strangely and I feel he knows I want to leave. I Ieft my laptop open when I went out the other day and he went through it. Id been emailing a solicitor I’ve spoken to and had emailed to ask how I could safely leave london and return to my home town two hours away where I still have a job, a house (it’s currently rented out) and family / friends relatively nearby. I’m unsure whether he saw these emails but he willl have looked at the search history and I’d been looking at properties in my hometown too.

A few days ago he was his usual critical and intimidating self, and something inside snapped. He went out with friends for the evening and I packed some essentials and drove me and the baby to our hometown three hours away. Predictably he has gone absolutely ballistic and is demanding I bring the baby back. If I return then my solicitor told me he could take out a prohibited steps order preventing me from leaving London with the baby until it’s been to court which could take up to 12 months, so I’d be stuck there until then. Financially it would be so difficult for me to live in London, and I worry I’d be under his control.

i feel sick. Incredibly guilty that I’ve uprooted my baby from his home and now living out of a bag in a spare room. Incredibly guilty that I’ve denied my husband his paternity leave. Broken from being emotionally ground down for so long.

I feel so depressed and at risk of just returning to London. Please help me.

thanks for listening

OP posts:
WestSouthWest · 30/09/2023 18:02

Well done for making the right decision to get yourself and your precious baby to safety. It takes courage to do this and you have absolutely done the right thing. He sounds extremely abusive and I think you should contact the police and also a local domestic abuse support service. Abusive men often use threats (including suicide threats) and manipulative tactics to get you back under their control. Stay where you are, stay safe and do not go back to London!

Dippydinosaurus · 30/09/2023 18:02

Try not to feel guilty about taking your DS away from his dad - you are protecting him. He may be a doting dad now as a baby, but when your DS grows up he will have his own mind and want to do his own thing. Your ex will act to him as he's doing to you to try and control him

keffie12 · 30/09/2023 22:10

YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 16:17

Thanks for your replies everyone. All so helpful and supportive. Almost survived another day. Is it normal that I feel worse rather than better?!

and why can’t I shake the guilt of leaving during his paternity leave 😥

Of course you feel worse. We always do before we feel better. Your body and mind have to recover. You've been living in an emotional roller coaster car crash for years.

You need to self care. Selfcare isn't always comfortable as we are used to being on eggshells. You feel guilty because he has conditioned you to feel guilty and his power.

Every part of you is affected. Go and see your Dr's as well, and please get in touch with women's aid. I put the link further up.

AdamRyan · 30/09/2023 22:43

YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 16:17

Thanks for your replies everyone. All so helpful and supportive. Almost survived another day. Is it normal that I feel worse rather than better?!

and why can’t I shake the guilt of leaving during his paternity leave 😥

Instead of feeling guilty about leaving during his paternity leave, you could choose to see it that his abuse became intolerable while he was around you and the baby all the time.
He did this. He chose to be abusive to you. You are responding to that abuse by protecting yourself and your child.
This voice telling you that you should feel guilty is very likely his. You have nothing to feel guilty for.

YogiBear2018 · 01/10/2023 09:32

Thanks everyone. I haven’t slept a wink. I’m missing our flat and London so badly. Feel so so guilty that I’ve taken my baby away from his dad and his home which he loves, to come and live out of a bag in a spare room. Also terrified of whatever my husband is plotting. I’ve offered several times for him to see the baby this weekend but he’s being difficult and saying there are train strikes and I’ve taken the car. I also offered to FaceTime him but he just messaged back saying he wants to hold his son, and to bring him home.

didn’t think it was possible to feel this bad 😰

OP posts:
Tilllly · 01/10/2023 09:45

Thats emotional blackmail

Mirabai · 01/10/2023 09:52

OP - You’ve done very well to get the baby away from him and you’re in the right place.

WRT your DH kindly you need to man up. Accept your husband is abusive and put baby not him first. Stop kowtowing to him, stop being tied into his aggressive manipulations and just ignore everything.

You need to start to detach from him emotionally otherwise he will destroy you and your son.

Stay put and wait for solicitors/court to sort out contact.

Lavenderosa · 01/10/2023 09:54

Please try to stay strong for your son's sake. If you take him back to a home where his mother is abused and his father's behaviour is erratic, you'll be risking his wellbeing (and yours of course). Listen to your solicitor about what could happen if you return and how appalling that would be for you. Far worse than temporarily living out of bags in a spare room where you are right now. At the moment you have the chance to build a new life so grab it while you can.

Lolapusht · 01/10/2023 09:59

You’re likely to feel worse as your body starts to relax as you’re away from immediate danger. You’ve been protection mode (fight or flight) and now you’ve left, the enormity of things will start to hit as you’ve got time to process things without the next onslaught coming.

Your baby isn’t going to notice he’s away from his dad and he certainly isn’t going to notice he’s living in a spare room. You are his world at the moment.

You aren’t responsible for this situation, he is. His behaviour has made it impossible for you to stay. He is an abusive husband. He is a terrible dad. If your son grows up with divorced parents then that will be on your husband as his behaviour is completely unacceptable. Having divorced parents will be far preferable than growing up living with this man who will undoubtedly emotionally, if not physically, damage him.

I wouldn’t let him have contact with just the three of you. Make sure someone else is with you or meet in public as he sounds utterly dangerous. What you have said about him makes me think he is a very real threat to the safety of you and your child. You don’t grab 5 weeks old babies and threatening to give him formula so you’re not needed is a massive red flag.

Do you have professional support? Women’s aid/counsellor etc?

Lolapusht · 01/10/2023 10:05

Also, for your sanity, disengage from communication. You don’t need to read his texts. Keep yours to arranging for him to see your son. As he’s bf’d, it can be short and regular visits rather than overnights (under no circumstances agree to that any time soon).

You text offering a time then don’t engage with anything other than “Ok, I’ll see you then”. If you want to talk about your relationship etc then state your position and don’t budge from it. If he rants at you, say you’re not going to respond then don’t. Grey rock, rinse and repeat.

You need to protect yourself and part of that is deciding not to listen to his abuse any more. You don’t need to. You can now control how you interact with him

WinterDeWinter · 01/10/2023 10:07

Please please tell him to communicate only via your mum or solicitor’s email and block him, op.

he will start to try and sweet talk you soon and because of the effects of his years of abuse you might find it hard to stand firm. Please do that.

you have been so so brave.

2jacqi · 01/10/2023 10:08

YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 11:43

I keep getting waves of panic and anxiety about taking our baby away from his dad. I’m getting messages off him begging me to bring him back. He’s also messaging our friends to tell them I’ve been emotionally abusive, calling him every name under the sun and making suicidal threats!! I’ve never done this and never even called him a name in my life. I feel so so so depressed x

why cant your solicitor start proceedings for an interdict (injunction in england) and residency order? interdict to stop him being abusive and threatening to you. screen shot all messages and do not interact with him at all except through solicitors

AdamRyan · 01/10/2023 10:14

YogiBear2018 · 01/10/2023 09:32

Thanks everyone. I haven’t slept a wink. I’m missing our flat and London so badly. Feel so so guilty that I’ve taken my baby away from his dad and his home which he loves, to come and live out of a bag in a spare room. Also terrified of whatever my husband is plotting. I’ve offered several times for him to see the baby this weekend but he’s being difficult and saying there are train strikes and I’ve taken the car. I also offered to FaceTime him but he just messaged back saying he wants to hold his son, and to bring him home.

didn’t think it was possible to feel this bad 😰

Stop messaging him, stop reading his messages. Turn your phone off and put it away for the day. He's going to try his hardest to manipulate you into doing what he wants, don't give him the opportunity.

Can you do something to distract you today? Go for a walk somewhere with the baby, go for a coffee, just get a change of scenery and spoil yourself a bit.

Please speak to your solicitor tomorrow about your options and please please go to the gp and try to sort counselling out.

Are you talking to anyone in real life about this? What does your mum say about his behaviour?

parietal · 01/10/2023 10:18

I would not offer any contact. There is a risk he will take the baby. Just stop communicating with him and focus on your lovely baby.

Summer2424 · 01/10/2023 10:18

@YogiBear2018
You absolutely done the right thing for you and your baby.
Your life with your baby is where you are now. He is just making empty threats to intimidate you. Go to your local Police station and report him. Sending you lots of strength to get through this, not that you need it, you are amazingly strong already! Xx ❤

mrswinter69 · 01/10/2023 10:27

I'm a prison officer and I've seen this time and time again. Get a restraining order,organise any contact he wants with your child through a contact centre. Don't become a statistic... I don't mean to frighten you but some men can't take not being in control and the consequences can be awful. Much love and good luck 😊

MintJulia · 01/10/2023 10:33

Well done for getting yourself and your child away from this abuser. You've put up with months of abuse and now you've had enough. That is perfectly reasonable.

Write down every piece of abuse you can remember. any texts, emails, any witnesses. Record everything.

If you are in an abusive relationship, the best time to get a child away is as soon as possible. Staying just enables more damage to be done. Your child needs a happy relaxed mum or he will sense your anxiety.

Listen to your solicitor and stay put. Don't respond to your ex's bullying because that is what it is. HE caused this situation. HE needs to own it.

YogiBear2018 · 01/10/2023 10:37

I have a counsellor who has been instrumental in helping me recognise the situation wasn’t right. she even phoned me the day after I left to check how I was. For years I was blaming his military service, his stress, myself, and now I realise he has a choice.

I have so many close friends and family who are all being supportive. For some reason though it just doesn’t feel any easier even with them around.

busy torturing myself with thoughts of ‘if I’d just hung on a bit longer we were going to go on holiday in October etc.. in reality it wouldn’t have been a lovely holiday, it would have been ok, but with a few explosive arguments thrown in.

tonight going to sit down after the baby has gone to bed and write an email to my solicitor with all my questions.

xx

OP posts:
Lavenderosa · 01/10/2023 12:35

It sounds like he's taught you to accept that a holiday would be 'OK' even if it included a few explosive arguments. That sort of holiday would be awful, not OK. Thanks goodness you're not going. You don't have to endure what he classes as acceptable behaviour any more. You can raise your bar, expect better for yourself and your son. You're being brave and you should be proud of yourself for leaving.

YogiBear2018 · 01/10/2023 12:44

@AdamRyan my mum has thought for years that his behaviour was terrible, but he’s managed to drive a wedge between me and my family so we haven’t been that close over the years. My mum is being extremely supportive now though.

I’m about to drive out to see a friend who also has a baby, so it will be nice to feel as though I can vent, and my baby will really enjoy playing with her little one too.

OP posts:
Didsomeonesaydogs · 01/10/2023 12:59

mrswinter69 · 01/10/2023 10:27

I'm a prison officer and I've seen this time and time again. Get a restraining order,organise any contact he wants with your child through a contact centre. Don't become a statistic... I don't mean to frighten you but some men can't take not being in control and the consequences can be awful. Much love and good luck 😊

@YogiBear2018

I hope you saw this post - please be super careful offering STBXH any contact with your son. Make sure to do it through a contact centre as this poster suggests.

Lavenderosa · 01/10/2023 13:38

Agree with above - make sure you keep any messages where he threatens suicide - you might need them as evidence why he can't have unsupervised access.

keffie12 · 01/10/2023 14:03

YogiBear2018 · 01/10/2023 09:32

Thanks everyone. I haven’t slept a wink. I’m missing our flat and London so badly. Feel so so guilty that I’ve taken my baby away from his dad and his home which he loves, to come and live out of a bag in a spare room. Also terrified of whatever my husband is plotting. I’ve offered several times for him to see the baby this weekend but he’s being difficult and saying there are train strikes and I’ve taken the car. I also offered to FaceTime him but he just messaged back saying he wants to hold his son, and to bring him home.

didn’t think it was possible to feel this bad 😰

How can your baby love his home? He is a baby. He does not understand what a home is. What he understands is his mom's love, and that's where he needs to be and is.

As I and others have said, it's going to take time to feel better. You have been preconditioned by your ex to feel comfortable in misery.

You're not missing London or your home. It's the comfort of the safety blanket of misery you're missing, which is natural

Remember, I, as many other posters, have been their with this. I hope you took on board what the prison officer said above, too

RandomMess · 01/10/2023 14:31

Stop feeling guilty for protecting your son and his primary caregiver which is you.

Please speak to women's aid and start their freedom programme immediately- it is offered on line as well as in person.

Gather your friends and family close by. Call 101 and ask to speak to the domestic violence/abuse unit and see if he has done anything he can be charge for. Coercive control is no illegal as well as physical and emotional abuse.

FusionChefGeoff · 01/10/2023 15:05

You have done a wonderful thing. Your baby knows that YOU are his home; not a flat, not a spare room, it's YOU he needs and you have given him that above everything you are fabulous!

A good father loves and cares for the mother of his children - your husband is a terrible terrible father and an awful human by the sounds of it.

Fuck his paternity leave - that should be about caring for the mother, helping her to recover and he was actively endangering your health!!

Stay strong and build a better life for your son.

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