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Left emotionally abusive husband, please help

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YogiBear2018 · 30/09/2023 07:30

Please help, I feel so low.

been with my husband for 10 years. Looking back, I now realise the relationship has been emotionally abusive for some time. There were red flags from the start but things have got much worse over the past few years.

He left the military a few years ago and during this time he became very depressed, refused to accept that he was depressed and blamed me instead for how he is feeling. He used to shut himself in his study for days on end without leaving the house and cut all contact with family and friends. He told me he wanted a divorce - I found it so difficult to come to terms with as I knew how depressed he was and was worried about him. His behaviour towards me was very erratic and difficult to understand - he’d tell me he hated me some days but then bring flowers the next day and tell me how amazing I was.

He was offered a very good job in London and his mood quickly improved. we decided to give it another go and moved there together last summer. I fell pregnant just after we moved and suddenly his mood changed again (coincided with stress of new job) and he told me he wanted to separate again. He told me he didn’t want a baby and put pressure on me to order the termination pills online, but then wouldn’t engage in any constructive conversation around what to do. Every time I asked he blew up and said I was putting pressure on him and should understand how stressed he was.

he left me waiting for 14 weeks before deciding whether to go ahead together with the pregnancy. During this time I’d been so unwell with vomiting I’d lost a lot of weight and been hospitalised with a kidney infection as I was too weak to walk out to the shops for food some days and was too delayed collecting my antibiotics because I was so depressed and weak. Throughout my pregnancy he often had angry outbursts and was very verbally abusive (‘I hate you, you’ve ruined my life, I want this baby but wish it wasn’t happening with you, you’ve got the IQ of a slug etc). One time when I was 6 months pregnant I didn’t want to engage in the argument he was trying to start so I pretended to be asleep and he started shoving my shoulder to try and get a reaction.

I had our baby in April and he’s the best thing that ever happened to me. He was born prematurely and was extremely low birthweight (he weighed 3lb). My husband was immediately besotted with him and is now absolutely obsessed with him. Immediately after the birth he was very supportive but then old habits crept in. When our baby was 9 days old we went for coffee and he was criticising everything I did for the baby. I politely said I’m ok, I can handle this, you’re making me feel like you don’t trust me to look after him’. He flew off the handle and said I was being ungrateful because he’d been so supportive, and stormed out of the cafe with the baby in the pram. I ran after them and he punched my coffee out of my hand. He then stormed off and I had to walk home alone dripping in coffee as I couldn’t keep up (I’d had an emergency c section).

when the baby was 6 weeks old he flew off the handle and told me to leave, but that I wasn’t allowed to leave London with the baby and had to go and rent a flat round the corner. I left and went to stay with my mum two hours drive away. He was furious and demanded I returned as I’d ‘kidnapped his child’. I felt so guilty I went back.

sonce then his behaviour has been erratic, he is very hostile toward me and is still regularly verbally abusive. He tells me we must stay together as outcomes for the baby will be disastrous if we don’t. He tells me that if I ever want warmth or affection from him again I have to earn it.

he is now two weeks into his delayed paternity leave and has 6 weeks off. He’s behaving a bit strangely and I feel he knows I want to leave. I Ieft my laptop open when I went out the other day and he went through it. Id been emailing a solicitor I’ve spoken to and had emailed to ask how I could safely leave london and return to my home town two hours away where I still have a job, a house (it’s currently rented out) and family / friends relatively nearby. I’m unsure whether he saw these emails but he willl have looked at the search history and I’d been looking at properties in my hometown too.

A few days ago he was his usual critical and intimidating self, and something inside snapped. He went out with friends for the evening and I packed some essentials and drove me and the baby to our hometown three hours away. Predictably he has gone absolutely ballistic and is demanding I bring the baby back. If I return then my solicitor told me he could take out a prohibited steps order preventing me from leaving London with the baby until it’s been to court which could take up to 12 months, so I’d be stuck there until then. Financially it would be so difficult for me to live in London, and I worry I’d be under his control.

i feel sick. Incredibly guilty that I’ve uprooted my baby from his home and now living out of a bag in a spare room. Incredibly guilty that I’ve denied my husband his paternity leave. Broken from being emotionally ground down for so long.

I feel so depressed and at risk of just returning to London. Please help me.

thanks for listening

OP posts:
marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/10/2023 15:22

There are SO many women in your situation in the past who you then read "and then stupidly I went back to him". Don't be one of them.

YogiBear2018 · 02/10/2023 06:34

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter I’m trying so hard. It’s so difficult when every bone in my body is trying to drag me back to London where my life and home is. Mondays are my baby’s music classes which he loves 😢 I know it sounds silly in the grand scheme of things but my heart is just bleeding for him! making a plan from here feels daunting.

planning to try and find a mediation service today - I don’t see how I can communicate or plan with him otherwise.

OP posts:
Redlarge · 02/10/2023 06:43

He wont ever get a prohibited steps preventing you from leaving london. Do not go back. Go no contact. Reestablish support. Hes a massive fucking danger.
Do not go back and do not communicate with him.

Loubelle70 · 02/10/2023 06:46

He cannot stop you moving away...unless it was out of country. I work at womens aid, ring us. Due to previous abuse you can take out a non molestation order. You have strength.

Redlarge · 02/10/2023 06:50

YogiBear2018 · 02/10/2023 06:34

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter I’m trying so hard. It’s so difficult when every bone in my body is trying to drag me back to London where my life and home is. Mondays are my baby’s music classes which he loves 😢 I know it sounds silly in the grand scheme of things but my heart is just bleeding for him! making a plan from here feels daunting.

planning to try and find a mediation service today - I don’t see how I can communicate or plan with him otherwise.

Your baby wont be effected by missing classes. He will be you or him being injured, controlled or worse. Stay away

HappyHedgehog247 · 02/10/2023 06:50

Please please don't go back at this stage. I left an abusive ex and this is the hardest bit but in time you'll rebuild a life and it will be good. Mute or divert his messages, constant engagement will make you feel worse. Great that you have your team: you need solicitor, counselling etc. Court will want baby to grow up in safe and structured environment, you can't do this living with him.

HappyHedgehog247 · 02/10/2023 06:50

I recommend the freedom program

YogiBear2018 · 02/10/2023 07:27

@Loubelle70 how do I organise a call with womens aid asap? I only ever seem to be able to contact them via the live chat - it’s helpful but I feel disjointed communicating like this rather than by a call!

OP posts:
Loubelle70 · 02/10/2023 07:32

@YogiBear2018
Try refuge too... The Freephone National Domestic Abuse Helpline, run by Refuge on 0808 2000 247 0808 2000 247
Xxx

Loubelle70 · 02/10/2023 07:33

If you type women's aid and the area you live in it should come up with a number closer to you xx

YogiBear2018 · 02/10/2023 07:38

@Loubelle70 thank you. I tried refuge a few times but it gets so busy and I never seem to have time to wait - I was number 19 in the queue last time I tried! Will try to find a local womens aid number xx

OP posts:
Loubelle70 · 02/10/2023 07:41

Yw. Yes sadly since the pandemic domestic abuse helplines have been really busy. If you can try to hold on and wait for them to answer. You wont regret it. Gl OP XXX

keffie12 · 02/10/2023 10:20

YogiBear2018 · 02/10/2023 07:38

@Loubelle70 thank you. I tried refuge a few times but it gets so busy and I never seem to have time to wait - I was number 19 in the queue last time I tried! Will try to find a local womens aid number xx

You have to hang on the phone. You can do other things whilst waiting for them to answer. Just have your phone on loud speaker.

It's what I do when waiting on a call to get answered by any compony. You have to be patient.

Regarding your things, you take your baby to, in London. Find local groups. That is the way to start building a néw life.

Google Women's Aid contact no for your area. You may find one that way

serene12 · 02/10/2023 11:01

Mediation is not recommended when there is domestic abuse, as it just allows the perpetrator further opportunity to abuse the victim.
Hopefully you’ll be able to speak to a domestic abuse charity soon.

Redlarge · 02/10/2023 12:30

YogiBear2018 · 02/10/2023 07:38

@Loubelle70 thank you. I tried refuge a few times but it gets so busy and I never seem to have time to wait - I was number 19 in the queue last time I tried! Will try to find a local womens aid number xx

There are local dv charities. Mine was amazing. Google your local area or ring 111 and ask the police they will know. Or local soc services

YogiBear2018 · 03/10/2023 07:27

Day 5 and feeling horrific. Getting worse not better. Hating living out of a bag. Just want to go home and have some routine for my baby 😰

OP posts:
RandomMess · 03/10/2023 07:48

Focus on the long term. It does feel incredibly difficult and uncomfortable leaving an environment however abusive it is.

Have you looked at signing up to do the Freedom Programme on line?

Lavenderosa · 03/10/2023 07:54

Hang in there - you're brave and you'll get through this. It's distressing to be away from home and living out of bags but it's even more distressing to be trapped in an abusive relationship. Please try again to make contact with Women's Aid - they know what you're going through and they'll help you.

Redlarge · 03/10/2023 07:59

YogiBear2018 · 03/10/2023 07:27

Day 5 and feeling horrific. Getting worse not better. Hating living out of a bag. Just want to go home and have some routine for my baby 😰

Your now is not your forever my love. You are doing what is best fir your child. Just get through each day. Take any help on offer. Rest. Eat well and lots of water. You will feel different soon. I promise you and you will feel like the sun has come out being away from that oppressive man and lifestyle. Its not going to be better to return. Keep going xxxxx

Redlarge · 03/10/2023 08:00

YogiBear2018 · 03/10/2023 07:27

Day 5 and feeling horrific. Getting worse not better. Hating living out of a bag. Just want to go home and have some routine for my baby 😰

Did you find any local services. Use online support too. Honestly there will be someone local. Ask the doctors or nearby hospital if you cant find anything

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/10/2023 08:28

You are doing brilliantly lovely xxx I know it’s hard atm but it will pass. You’ve given DH umpteen opportunities but he’s not taken them. Stay strong 💐

Crunchingleaf · 03/10/2023 08:37

In an ideal world a baby gets two loving parents. Unfortunately that doesn’t always work out and some children have a parent that does more harm than good. My teenager is in counselling now because he has been very, very impacted by witnessing his father verbally attack me for years. I wasn’t strong like you and didn’t leave when he was a baby. The abuse wrecks havoc. Even the mother child bond is affected because you are so under stress and on edge all the time you’re not the mother you need to be. Don’t be tempted to go back OP.
Your ex doesn’t deserve to have a son. You don’t need to feel guilty. You are protecting your son. Every time you are struggling OP remember you are protecting your son. You’re under huge stress right now and you haven’t realised it but you have been in a high state of stress for a long time. It takes time to reset your mind and body to adjust to your new normal.

Automaticforthepeople · 03/10/2023 08:46

So sorry to hear what you have been going through OP.

Sorry if any of this has been said before, I haven’t read the whole thread.

He is responsible for this situation, no one else. His abusive, cruel and damaging behaviour is the reason you needed to leave. The shame and guilt belongs to him.

He is attempting to deflect the responsibility (look up DARVO). It’s a common tactic.

He is also gaslighting you. An after effect of this can be questioning and doubting yourself.

I found it really helpful to write down encouraging words in a notebook that reflected the truth of the situation, to reassure myself that I really hadn’t done anything wrong. Then, to re-read it whenever I started to blame myself. It may help to write down some of the phrases and responses on this thread.

You have been very courageous. You 100% did the right thing by leaving. You will come out the other side.

MsRosley · 03/10/2023 09:06

I'm a prison officer and I've seen this time and time again. Get a restraining order,organise any contact he wants with your child through a contact centre. Don't become a statistic... I don't mean to frighten you but some men can't take not being in control and the consequences can be awful. Much love and good luck 😊

I really do think you should take this very seriously, OP. If you go back, he will have a very strong urge to punish you for going.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 03/10/2023 09:09

You’re playing the long game @YogiBear2018 . This is for the long term good of your son, it’s natural to grieve the loss of what you’d hoped would be your happy family, but your husband is abusive.

it will get better, keep on going, but please please please don’t go back.

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