Amber heard Johnny depp

[Chéri44]

I’ve just started watching this on Netflix. Is anyone else watching it ? Thoughts ?

I don't really know what drinking and drugs has to do with it.

Yes, they can cause some people to act out of character and maybe even provoke violence, but abuse has a psychological basis.

An abuser is abusing you from the minute they meet you whether they are drunk, sober or otherwise.

I find it beggars belief that a hugely wealthy and successful man would somehow be trapped in an abusive relationship by a woman half his age and half his size.

Why?

Why exactly?

Also while she is half his age, she is definitely not half his size. They are the same height, and he is not a large man.

I agree, I found her dissasociation quite frightening.

The videos of her in England when being questioned she appeared so nonchalant, sipping water and quickly grabbing a bite in between answers as though she had no anxiety or care of the gravity of the situation.

In court her demeaner when she recalled events that clearly were exagerated without true feeling and her lack of what those arround her were actually thinking. It was incredulous, only someone with such thick skin could have not understood the atmosphere in that courtroom.

It was as though everyone had to keep a straight face because it actually felt like a farce and Heard was manipulating the whole show, I bet most sane people would have actually wanted to stand up and say this is rediculous, but she played to the system of it.

Crazy stuff, at least Jonny exposed us to that delusion, I'm not saying Jonny is great, he's a shit that left his wife, but at least he seems to be based in reality, Amber to me is worryingly detatched from reason and logic and I also agree that this may not be the last time she tries to punish him.

He was a vehicle to be used for his fame, wealth and power and she used that to her advantage, to the point she completely took over his properties, with her family and friends supporting her, he seemed sidelined in his own homes, to the point she felt confident having lovers come when he was away, not a woman who was afraid of her husband I think.

He took back his life and she did not like that, so she had to destroy that life that he denied her.

I doubt whether she misses him one bit, his possesions and attributes yes, but not him, whilst I bet Jonny misses her, the Amber he first met when she love bombed him.

All this talk of NPD and ‘Cluster B’ and discussing the right and wrong behaviour for giving evidence. It’s sickening.

Where are you watching this, I’ve searched on Netflix and it says not available?

Then you have (luckily) no experience of domestic psychological abuse.

As, if you had, 5 minutes in, it would have been screaming at you. Female/male is irrelevant. I have never seen a single JD film, nor do I know who she is. Try to get rid of your preconceptions.

It is sickening? Why? Sorry you feel sickened. The judge will feel sorry you feel sickened.

He wanted it televised. For good reason.

we're not Heard supporters, we just know Depp was the violent one on the relationship. his poor victims have had so much to suffer, esp his poor crew member, he assaulted Greg "Rocky" Brooks during filming for the movie City of Lies in downtown Los Angeles in April 2017. Mr Brooks said he had screamed obscenities at him, hit him twice in the ribs and then offered him money to punch him back. I can't imagine defending this type of person.

so the audios of him yelling were fabricated? and his violent texts ? if a man yelled at you "you don't exist" would you find it normal ?

drugs will 100% affect your recollection of events and combined with alcohol can 100% make you violent. once you sober up again you will have forgotten everything. let's not romanticize and downplay their role

he wanted it on TV simply to punish her and "put her in her place".
He barely faced any backlash for her accusations in the first place, J K Rowling took his side and he did multiple film projects between 2016-2019, he did many TV interviews like Graham Norton and nobody cared. So it seemed fairly obvious that his only mission in doing this big expensive PR circus was to punish the ex that he was still obsessed with.

I was just looking up music videos on YouTube during that time and was bombarded by a ton of trial videos popping up in the algorithm that I had never seen before. it had red flags all over. especially my being recommended hospital visits when he was dressed up as the pirate.
he spent millions for the entire PR campaign and bots at the time. if you're innocent you don't need to do this.

yeah it's giving armchair youtube psychologist

I really doubt he misses her, you are romanticizing their relationship and esp. when he said he wanted her dead, it's giving me chills down my spine reading that. here are the texts one more time:

“Let’s burn Amber!!!”
to which Bettany responded: “Having thought it through I don’t think we should burn Amber – she’s delightful company and easy on the eye, plus I’m not sure she’s a witch. We could of course try the English course of action in these predicaments ­– we do a drowning test. Thoughts?”
Depp responded: “Let’s drown her before we burn her!!! I will f* her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead.”

@paperflowers55

drugs will 100% affect your recollection of events and combined with alcohol can 100% make you violent. once you sober up again you will have forgotten everything. let's not romanticize and downplay their role

You've missed my point. You seem to think getting drunk and being violent makes you an abuser. It might make you behaviour abusive but an abuser is something you are, whether drunk, sober or whatever.

An abusive relationship is a term that describes any relationship where one person exerts power and control over the other in a negative way. One person in that dynamic starts off with genuine intentions, and is slowly broken down psychologically by a cycle of love-bombing and fear.

Listening to their tapes, testimonies and transcripts it's very obvious which one that is. I understand not everyone is wise to what this is. It's very easy to confuse, but when you've got experience of it, it's very obvious.

@paperflowers55 every post you make shows you really know absolutely nothing about psychological abuse. Sorry!

paperflowers55

Except that you don't actually know do you, you assume that he was.

As for putting the trial on tv, have you thought that this was so that everyone could see what she was like?
Otherwise there would be many more like you chastising him and supporting her.

i think he was genuinely brave (or very beaten down and desperate) to make this trial public. it made him look really bad, aired all his sins for all to see - and yet she came off way worse than him

@PaintedEgg

Completely agree. She'd done what every abuser I've ever encountered does - go off into the world and tell everyone (quite convincingly) that they were the victim.

He had real courage to stand up and refuse to let her lie. As you say, airing his own shame wasn't easy, and standing up to someone like her is definitely never easy, even in private, but he showed the world the truth.

You've missed my point. You seem to think getting drunk and being violent makes you an abuser. It might make you behaviour abusive but an abuser is something you are, whether drunk, sober or whatever.

I agree, being an addict doesn't always mean they are the abusive person in the relationship.

Take for instance the pictures Amber took of Jonny laid passed out with ice cream running down his body, why did Amber take those ? I would say it was for evidence that he was an abusive alcoholic. It didn't show that, it showed a middled aged man tired, drunk, slavering, looking pathetic but more than that it showed her niavely thinking that she could manipulate others into thinking she was abused, passed out drunk = abusive alcoholic, when in fact he just looked a weak pitiable man, he had to face this in court against his swash bucking personna, never again would his fans think of him being the hero, he knew this, she knew this.
She manipulated this for future reference, abusers think ahead, the abused don't.

And the slamming doors in the kitchen, please, anyone who has been in an abusive relationship will see this video and recognise, she had no fear, she was mocking him, smirking in her facial features and tone of voice, his anger was not that of rage directed towrds her, she was not frightened, he looked like a deshevelled comical fool, who could have been pushed over at any point. If an abuser is in a violent rage you don't video them, you escape, you don't stand there and question their actions and smirk.
She wasn't in fear of this man.

All this she didn't act like a perfect victim nonsence, that in my opinion could only be applicable to Jonny.

She on the other hand acted like the perfect abuser, clean cut, always impecably turned out, still caring about her appearance and persona, not harming herself with self abusing substances to the point she lost her looks, on the other hand Jonny looked a complete mess, beyond caring.

He had got to the point whereby he knew she never loved him, he recognised she was never capable of loving him.

@RandomForest I completely agree with every word there.

Could someone pls tell me where to watch this i can't find it on Netflix.

Its called Depp v Heard.

It is still available for me, but I am not in the UK.

It is irrelevant really, but when he slammed the doors I think he had found out at that moment his mother had died.

I remember her taunts "is that a pint of wine Johnny" while filming. A nasty, nasty abusive planner with zero empathy.