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Just found ive been cheated on

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babygirl88 · 21/07/2023 21:01

After 6 years. My partners in the shower, i tapped his phone and saw another womans whatsapp message with an explicit message.

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MotherofTerriers · 30/07/2023 20:23

The massage probably made you relax and the images from Friday came back. It will happen. It doesn't mean you aren't going to get over this. Give yourself time to cry, and with time the sad thoughts will come less frequently and with less intensity. Eventually you will be able to say to yourself, yes, that reminded me and made me feel sad, accept feeling sad for a little while and then put the sad feeling away again.
Don't beat yourself up for your own feelings, they are yours and you are perfectly reasonable to feel sad, let down, disappointed, all of this.
It will get easier, and the more new things you can fill your life with the smaller his part of it will become
Big unmumsnetty hugs from someone who has been there

NoraButty · 30/07/2023 21:17

I do feel for you babygirl, the thoughts on repeat are awful, absolutely awful.

A few things that helped me were, this book from Amazon. It’s like journaling but with extra bits. I found the gratitude bit especially helpful as it forced me to be positive

https://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Worries-Practice-Positive-Thinking/dp/1952676002

Walking helped a lot. I downloaded audio books, popped in some ear buds and set off walking.

I was particularly preoccupied with not knowing who I was, as I’d spent so many years being who he wanted me to be. So, I wrote lists of things I wanted to achieve in one week, one month, one year. Things like, drive on the motorway, re-style my hair, clear out my wardrobe, get a promotion. Small stuff, big stuff.

The best thing I did though was join a hobby. I thought I was joining a self defence course but it’s more like a fight club! Fab way of keeping fit and the people are awesome. This keeps me busy up to three nights a week.

Amongst the stuff I read in the early days someone wrote that when you are anxious you need to close the loop of anxiety and only three things can do that, crying, exercising and hugging (fortunately pets count!). I’m 12 months on and still regularly cry, I’m not ashamed of that. Like you I have been through trauma and loss and have accepted that it will take time to heal. The exercise and cuddling dogs and cats also make me feel so much better.

Im at the stage now where I could kick myself for not ending things with him sooner. I once hung on his every word and believed everything he said. It seems so obvious now that it was all bullshit, said only to get what he wanted when he wanted. So, ive gone from upset and anger to sadness to regret. Im just waiting on the no longer giving a shit phase to appear and then I’ll be happy.

Youll get there. Pick and choose what works for you but the main thing is, you clearly want to move on from that life, you should be so proud of yourself for that. Seriously, it’s not easy, but so very much worth it.

oakleaffy · 31/07/2023 01:34

babygirl88 · 29/07/2023 20:39

cant believe ive made it though tbh. friday last week i wouldve bet my life it was gonna kill me, the pain i felt

People are tougher than that, @babygirl88 .

But I do know the shock and horror of finding out something like that.

You can do so much better, and thank goodness you DID find that horrible message- You are no longer his victim.

babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 10:21

Reading isnt helping me. I have bad concentration as it is, i either read 2 words and close the book or i read pages and havent taken in one word.

I havent spoken a single word for 4 days as i dont want to tell anyone what happened but i cant talk about anything else as im not with it.

The eating has come back a bit and im sleeping better with the occaisional 4am wake up with anxiety.

I dont want to say this but i feel sorry for myself. I didnt deserve it. He couldve just said if he wasnt happy, but 5 mins before his shower i was being told how much he loves me, how beautiful and great i am.? Yes he will have another victim but i really love him. And im angry that im not angry or hate him. I dont wish him bad or hope he's miserable. I just want peace. I can get to the point where i function but i cant see how im going to ever recover from the only person i loved and been with, betraying me. I gave 17 years to have it over in 5 seconds.

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HeadacheEarthquake · 31/07/2023 10:41

babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 10:21

Reading isnt helping me. I have bad concentration as it is, i either read 2 words and close the book or i read pages and havent taken in one word.

I havent spoken a single word for 4 days as i dont want to tell anyone what happened but i cant talk about anything else as im not with it.

The eating has come back a bit and im sleeping better with the occaisional 4am wake up with anxiety.

I dont want to say this but i feel sorry for myself. I didnt deserve it. He couldve just said if he wasnt happy, but 5 mins before his shower i was being told how much he loves me, how beautiful and great i am.? Yes he will have another victim but i really love him. And im angry that im not angry or hate him. I dont wish him bad or hope he's miserable. I just want peace. I can get to the point where i function but i cant see how im going to ever recover from the only person i loved and been with, betraying me. I gave 17 years to have it over in 5 seconds.

You need to stop rehashing it all, and at least stop trying to rationalise what he said.

People can love someone and still cheat, it's fucking horrible.

It's been a good window of time now so I really suggest you pick yourself up a bit and call a friend, go out or do something.

If you really can't see yourself getting over it then you should see a counsellor.

If you're struggling with anxiety could you get some medicine?

7eleven · 31/07/2023 11:32

@babygirl88 You’re wallowing now. I understand why, but it won’t help you.

He behaved like a shit. End of. Going over and over it won’t change a thing and will drag you down.

Of course you’re grieving, but try to stop analysing, I’d suggest. It’s not getting you anywhere.

babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 11:43

definitely in self pity mode today. im going to sleep and then go and see my nephew.

i feel like ive been conditioned and brainwashed by an arsehole and im in the 2 second week of adjusting and acknowledging it all. weird example but it feels like those videos of babies getting hearing aids for the first time, they're scared and overwhelmed because its so different but its so much better for them in the long run.

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7eleven · 31/07/2023 11:49

You can do it @babygirl88!

roses321 · 31/07/2023 13:01

Hiya, I feel like I am eminently qualified to add to this post so I will do, and it'll be a decent amount of reading.

So, I had a partner who I knew had previously sexted (because i was one of the sextees and always told him to eff off) when he'd had a girlfriend. I ended up getting into a relationship with him purely by chance years later. I asked him about this stuff and he told me he was older now and ready to settle down/had changed etc etc. He was VERY convincing.

Thing is though, I never really felt safe with him, always had a thought in my mind that I might lose him. I was codependent and never really even knew it but I'll get to why that's relevant in a minute.

He would come over to my house, hang out, message me constantly and tell me how beautiful I was. I thought I'd met my soulmate, he was so attentive and wonderful. Or so I was telling myself. He later suggested we should move in with one another, so I did, thinking that wow.... the stars had aligned and I'd met "the one".

The punchline is: I found him doing the same things to me. Sexting tons of different women online. No mention of me in any of those messages, sending photos of himself to them, had no idea who they were. In the meantime playing happy families with me and sleeping with me, even telling me he'd never hurt me in the middle of "the act" at one point. Vomit.

When I found the evidence I felt like I'd been punched in the stomach, I couldn't help but look because i needed to know. I relate to everything you are saying, I couldn't eat, sleep, didn't know what to do with myself and couldn't believe he could do that with me when he'd told me that he felt so different about me from every other. Gave me the story about how he'd never loved his ex etc etc. I was different though. I was special.

I didn't leave, I stayed and of course he gaslit and switched it around to me "invading his privacy" - so first things first, congratulations to you on a MASSIVE scale for actually saying f this, and leaving and doing it with grace and poise and not blowing his phone up.

You are a class act. I wish I had done what you did because trust me you'll get the last laugh. I never recovered from him doing that, he proposed to me a few years later and I said yes and he bought me the most beautiful ring, but I never stopped worrying and it caused fights. Eventually I did leave though (although it was after we bought a house, you can read my story in my previous posts), but that's because he became abusive verbally and mentally on top of his cheating.

Few points to make about your messages:

  • Ignore anyone who says you're not reacting well or you're x y or z. You're in shock, you've just had the rug pulled out so you need to vent and get it all out. You're in pain and it's ok and a lot of us know how you feel. For those who don't, lucky them but they will one day most likely.
  • Your messages are talking about this girl and how she's not his type and you always made an effort and how could he do this to you. There are a ton of messages you've written attributing what he's done to how you look/she looks etc. You're missing the point here sweetheart, none of this is about you or her. It's about him. All of it. It's about him and who he is, his character, his dishonesty and what HE is lacking. Not you. And hey, if there was something he was missing if he had any sense of decency he'd have spoken to you about it.
  • I've learned from my experience to WATCH ACTIONS. Watch very very fucking carefully as well. You mentioned he was "put off" moving in with you, i'm sorry I don't buy that. 6 years, nothing has moved forward, that's the take home here. I'm sure others have said it as well but he's had it all very cushty with you, you've been on call to be wifey but not asked for anything actually resembling commitment. I wholeheartedly recommend a book called "Why men love bitches" because it very neatly explains the way men think and their mindset and I have found it very much to be true. He's done just enough to keep you happy, but look at it from the POV of what is he getting in return? Sex? Company? Stability without commitment? Your commitment? You think all of that is worth nothing? It's worth everything.
  • As to why he's done it... ultimately because he could, because by nature people like new and shiny and if they're emotionally immature and emotionally unavailable like your cunty ex then they don't see a problem with it. Also because they can, also because he never thought you'd find out and the biggest reason of all? It strokes his pathetic little ego and he feels like a man because ohhh look at me, i'm getting ALLLL the women. They all want me. There is no good reason, no good reason why he couldn't have spoken to you about anything that he wanted more of in the relationship, no good reason to not move things forward with you, no good reason he couldn't have NOT done what he did. He just did it because he's immature and selfish and driven by his own ego.

My advice to you:

Don't put pressure on yourself to feel amazing or better. You will feel like absolute shit so make friends with those negative emotions and ask them what they're trying to tell you. Oh hello misery, fear, self doubt and self loathing and heartbreak. Want a coffee with me? What are you trying to say to me? Just be cool with the fact you're going to feel like that, don't live there, but don't try to push it away and cover it up. You need to feel that right now.

Define your idea of what love looks like. It obviously doesn't involve sexting/cheating and a partner who would do that kind of thing, what else does/doesn't it involve? Perhaps someone who makes up pathetic excuses not to move the relationship forward would be a good one to add in there.

Look at what you could have done differently/better in the relationship, not because any of this is your fault - it ISN'T. Seriously. But so that you can identify any weak spots you might have and regrets you have for the NEXT person who comes into your life, NOT for your slimy ex.

I'm nearly 39 with no kids, I live in a room share and i've gone from living with a partner in our first home and being engaged to being a 38 year old with a room to my name having to sell all my beautiful dreamed for furniture and not being able to go into my own house.

HOWEVER, I now go to pilates, socialise, spend money on myself, don't worry about his phone beeping and who it is, don't constantly worry about my relationship and if he loves me, I go to counselling weekly and I know that regardless of how much he wants to make me the bad guy, he knows deep down what he did. It sucks right now there is no getting away from it, but at the same time as good times don't last, neither do fucking bad ones.

I chose me and you've done the same, you have no idea how proud of yourself you should be. It isn't that this girl is better than you or has something you don't, because how he treated you will be how he treats everyone else... trust me it absolutely is. Read that book I recommended and you'll probably find that you were giving everything and he was giving very very little.

It's hard to accept that some of these men are so devious and such con artists, but they are! They love you yes, but not in the same way we love them and if you're going to pick on yourself for anything it's probably that you weren't selfish enough and gave him too much of yourself when he never deserved it.

This is going to suck but you WILL be ok. Trust me I thought I was going to die, I felt so much pain I couldn't get up and even brush my teeth, I had stomach upsets and couldn't even face work or do anything. I felt like my world collapsed and I clung to him because I had so little self respect. You're already streets ahead on that front.

I'm sending you all my love and hugs and I hope this is helpful. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. x

babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 13:32

@roses321 this was so so so helpful, thank you. i found myself nodding and really understanding the things you wrote. thank you.

he always wanted to buy us a house to live in together but going by his past behaviours, i wanted to protect myself financially if nothing else. we lived together at mine with him paying for everything but officially on paper, i wouldnt have ever agreed to it. thank fuck i didnt. the one thing i have is my own house with no ties to someone so heartless.

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babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 13:45

@roses321 and thankyou for reiterating multiple times that it isnt about me/what i did wrong or right, or the other girl, but him. thats really helpful for me to hear ans makes me feel alot better, thank you.

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babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 13:50

@roses321 and thank you for the praise of me leaving him alone. im angry at myself that i even let on that night that i knew, i wish i didnt so he could be as confused as me. but i have kept my silence since (not hard when someone isnt trying to talk to you) but yea, small win and some dignity left i guess

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7eleven · 31/07/2023 14:13

@roses321 what a powerful and supportive message.

Shame in your first bullet you felt the need to put other posters’ opinions down, like yours is the one and only ‘right’ one.

You have no idea whatsoever if people who are saying ‘don’t dwell’ are saying it from experience or not, so it’s not really on to urge the OP to ignore everyone who doesn’t think like you?

babygirl88 · 31/07/2023 14:42

@7eleven I dont think she meant it like that, I just took it as just to not be hard on myself if people have said 'pull yourself together/get over it' (not just on here but real life too) and im still in the same emotional state and not understanding why i havent been able to yet. Im so not articulate so hope i worded that ok

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roses321 · 01/08/2023 14:01

7eleven · 31/07/2023 14:13

@roses321 what a powerful and supportive message.

Shame in your first bullet you felt the need to put other posters’ opinions down, like yours is the one and only ‘right’ one.

You have no idea whatsoever if people who are saying ‘don’t dwell’ are saying it from experience or not, so it’s not really on to urge the OP to ignore everyone who doesn’t think like you?

Yeah I agree with you, it seemed a few people were being fairly dismissive to my eye that's all, and frankly I think when you find something like this out, it's maybe advisable to have a bit of compassion.
I'm all for the "get over it" message but that comes a lot later down the line and this poor woman is still in shock so she needs a bit of a hug in my opinion.

Wasn't trying to disparage other posters, I just want OP to feel as though she is completely within her rights to feel all the crap she's feeling right now but I probably could have done that differently so I hope no offense caused. x

trixylittlehobbit · 02/08/2023 09:38

Morning OP!
How you doing today?
Hope you’re managing to get out and about and eating better. Just wanted to check in. Here if you need a rant or some reassurance, each day gets a tiny, tiny bit easier, though you might not be feeling that yet. Lots of emotions to work through, much like grief. But unlike grief, there will be a day when you are thankful they are out of your life! Big hug! X

babygirl88 · 02/08/2023 11:09

trixylittlehobbit · 02/08/2023 09:38

Morning OP!
How you doing today?
Hope you’re managing to get out and about and eating better. Just wanted to check in. Here if you need a rant or some reassurance, each day gets a tiny, tiny bit easier, though you might not be feeling that yet. Lots of emotions to work through, much like grief. But unlike grief, there will be a day when you are thankful they are out of your life! Big hug! X

Thank you so much for checking in, really kind of you. Means alot to me.

Im doing OK. Appetite it slowly coming back. Had a productive day yesterday, got lots of errands done.

Im just taking it easy and doing what works for me atm. Its a huge adjustment but each time facing a reminder is becoming a % less painful. Its like im desensitizing. Ive had to completely silence all my notifications on my phone - feels the most pathetic as he literally isnt contacting me - but any notification was making me jump and its helping to calm my nervous system down. The no apology or attempt really fucking hurts, makes me feel very worthless, but what can i do 🤷🏻‍♀️

Thanks for checking x

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trixylittlehobbit · 02/08/2023 13:41

Sounds like you’ve got this!
My ex pretty much blamed me for seeing someone behind my back while I was pregnant and had our daughter.
Until the sneaky detective in me found out he was at it at any given opportunity. Even people I worked with. And he had been like it for most of the relationship. Quiet ones are the worse…. very true! Any how’s, hurt like hell. I had (his) young children and so had to try and carry on as near normal for them. That’s why I would cry in the shower!
Very much like you said, it feels like he’s just carrying on as normal and I felt broken, but I knew my moral compass was where I wanted it and my integrity in tact! Karma does come round, but you can’t sit waiting for it. It will come when you least expect it! By then, hopefully you’ll be mended and won’t give 2 figs! Keep going! X

babygirl88 · 02/08/2023 14:08

@trixylittlehobbit exactly. i feel humiliated and look pretty fucking stupid, but there isnt anyone crying in bed because ive hurt and betrayed them. my conscience is clear and id rather be good than a prick. today is a bed day again but im just allowing what comes atm x

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allmyliesaretrue · 02/08/2023 17:00

You haven't done any to feel humiliated about and you don't look stupid at ALL. The only thing you have done is to love someone who didn't deserve it xx

Itistimeandiamscared · 02/08/2023 17:05

You are sounding stronger, OP. You are doing so well.
He will get in touch eventually but be prepared, it may not be an apology as you expect.

Just take each hour as it comes, little by little, you will get stronger, feel better and this time you would be able to resist going back to him.

He has been stringing you along. From what you have said about him and how your relationship was, I don't think he would have ever committed.

Well done, op. Hang in there. Glad to hear you are getting to eat...even if it's little bits.

babygirl88 · 02/08/2023 18:03

@allmyliesaretrue thank you for saying that x

@Itistimeandiamscared i do feel a bit stronger, nothing can ever be as bad as that first week and if i can make it through that all on my own, then i can carry on. I dont think he'll contact again tbh which as much as it hurts me that i was easily forgotten about, it makes it easier in a way.

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babygirl88 · 03/08/2023 11:30

Lol back to not strong and crying. Really horrible, detailed dream last night ☹️

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roses321 · 03/08/2023 16:02

Remember what I said, this is going to happen for a while. Honestly I went through it during May, June and July, feel shit still to be honest sometimes but it's getting better. Hold in there.

TattoedLady · 03/08/2023 19:27

Totally normal, let it all out...cry and be sad, it will help you heal. Just be kind to yourself in the process ok, no shaming yourself because you feel sad. There is no humiliation in what you're going through and you are by no means stupid. You are very clearly a loyal woman with a massive heart and you'll get through this.

A little guided meditation maybe? 10 minutes (more tears maybe but hey, let them flow!) s

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