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DP and boundaries. Am I just crazy?

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randommangoandpear · 13/06/2023 12:16

DP and I have been together 8 years, 1 DS3 and another on the way. No ring on my finger, various excuses over the years ranging from “my parents never married, I don’t see the importance” to “I want to make it special” and “why would I marry you when you’re constantly having a go at me.”

DP was less than faithful in his previous relationship and was open with me about this on our first few dates, stating it was towards the end of an unhappy relationship that he should have ended.

When I was pregnant with DS, DP developed a habit of going out for a few drinks and happening to stay out until the early hours, often ignoring his phone. The worst occasion I locked him out and sent him to his parents when he tried coming in around 6 AM.

Months down the line, I found a small hand written note fallen from a cupboard, detailing how he had met this wonderful woman and he had “never felt a connection” like this before and never felt more understood. Admittedly there was nothing specifically romantic about this letter but it was enough to spark the fury and pain in me. After a bit of digging, it transpired he had been with said woman (and other friends) on the night he had stayed out and I locked him out. He was apologetic, adamant it was platonic however said that “if I wasn’t so horrible to him then he’d have spoken to me about his feelings and life, instead of that woman. She was there to listen to him and understood him.”

I asked around and was told by everyone that nothing happened between them and it was just platonic, and that this woman was just “one of those harmless women.” Nevertheless, it left a sour taste in my mouth, hurt me deeply and I’ve never fully recovered. To add insult to injury, he explained that he had written said “note” (or love letter as I call it) whilst on a painting trip and ASKED TO WRITE ABOUT SOMETHING MEANINFUL OF LATE. Forget his unborn son, of course!

This was years ago and I set boundaries then re various things that had irked me, like his occasional like of semi naked women on social media.

Fast toward to a couple months ago, I’m pregnant again, randomly scrolling social media and find that DP has liked a lingerie photo of a woman he knows, but doesn’t follow. They have mutual friends and he has met her, so it’s not some random model on the other side of the world, and he KNOWS I’m not ok with this because we’ve discussed it in the past when he has done it. We live in a digital age, and a like of a lingerie photo is more than just a like, if you know the person.

I’m furious, and I tell him he’s not welcome home that night and he should go to his parents. I’m hopeful he’ll show some remorse, but instead he goes out drinking with friends. When I speak to him on the phone and admittedly lay in to him, saying some things I regret, he hangs up the phone and stays out with his phone off until 7 AM, having said he can’t bare coming home to me and my “abusive verbal assault” leaving me pregnant and stressed with our 3 year old.

We talked things over the next day, but he turned it on to me and basically said that he feels like he has no life anymore, no hobbies, can’t go out for a drink with friends because he knows I’ll apparently be upset about it etc. I said I would play my part but still wasn’t happy about what he had done, as it wasn’t the first time and he has repeatedly disrespected my boundaries re other women and things like this. He doesn’t go out drinking often anymore, but when he does I rarely have an issue, I just don’t want him out until the early hours.

I didn’t actually believe he was remorseful but fast forward to last night and he is trying to gaslight the shit out of me, telling me I’m crazy and it’s “not a big deal” and even my best friend told him that it was a “bit much” which I’m also furious about, as I confided in her about this argument, not for her to go discussing it with him and sympathising.

At the end of the day, we share a child and I’m pregnant with another, I don’t think I’m unreasonable for being furious that my DP has yet AGAIN ignored my boundaries. It doesn’t matter what it is, if we have discussed it and he has promised not to do it, then does it, it’s not ok. He of course thinks I am the unreasonable one, and as mentioned has turned this all on to me and wants ME to change. I’m a SAHM for a year now, a joint decision because I hated my job and DP wanted to go back to his business full time. We moved out of the city and I fucking hate it here too, it makes me miserable but he’s had a go at me for saying that because it’s “negative.” My mental health is in tatters renting here, but I’m wrong for not “making the most of it.”

I feel like I am completely alone now, I know pregnancy hormones are raging but my family live abroad, I feel betrayed by DP and now my best friend, and I just want to run away. My family aren’t even that supportive generally and I didn’t have a great upbringing, which doesn’t help my loneliness now.

In his mind I’m just a raging lunatic with potentially undiagnosed BPD. Thanks to ME telling him this, it’s not a weapon he can use, but he has done many shady things that have led us here.

Another example is when he was in London working for the day, then text me around 7pm saying he was finishing a drink at the pub then getting the train. Fast forward to 9pm, he says he’s running for the train. His phone goes off, and I don’t hear anything until 6 AM when he’s knocking at our front door. The train journey is 1 hour. He “missed the last train and slept in a park.” Yeah, pull the other one. I’m expected to believe this, and I let it go.. eventually. Would you have?

Still, when I think about a break up my heart breaks for our son and the new baby. I don’t know what to do. Counselling?

OP posts:
Thisisworsethananticpated · 14/06/2023 14:53

Watchkeys

sometimes I really like your posts 🙂

this is true for all of us
op I agree that this man is a shit show and to be fair he’d trigger anyone

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 14/06/2023 15:21

you need to reframe how you talk about boundaries.

as PPs have said, your boundaries are about what you think is acceptable.
they're not about controlling other people.

you need to say "you are free to do as you please. but when you go out, and go AWOL until the early hours, i feel abandoned. if you choose to do this anyway, knowing how it makes me feel, i am equally free to decide i do not want to be with someone who has so little regard for my feelings"

but really, you are both past this point i think.

you seem fundamentally incompatible, and i would say a split would give your children a much healthier example of what good, happy parenting looks like.

crew2022 · 14/06/2023 20:35

@Watchkeys good advice

BenandGerrys · 14/06/2023 22:46

randommangoandpear · 13/06/2023 19:41

@monsteramunch I don’t know what to think anymore. Our son doesn’t see this side of things, we make sure of it. I think I’m more scared of my children having a broken home, in a way I’m willing to sacrifice my happiness for them.

It's better for your kids to come from a broken home than live in one.

Please put a stop to this toxic situation.

Nelly10 · 14/06/2023 23:06

Op leave now. I had all this when I was pregnant with my daughter I was going to leave. I didn’t 7 years later I had to face the reality of what exactly my husband was, a liar and a cheat. Basically a horrible person.

Don’t be me get out now!

Crazycrazylady · 14/06/2023 23:06

Honestly I agree that neither of ye are good for each other . You're pregnant and lonely and would prefer him home with you each night. He is feeling trapped and constricted and wants to let his hair down regularly without getting 'abuse' as he calls it. I just think that you are not compatible anymore and I honestly don't see it improving . It's an awful way to live for both of ye.

Sothisisitthen · 14/06/2023 23:56

do you have the finances to leave? Then do so. If not figure out how you can get a job as soon as next baby is old enough, then go.

Seriously what some women will put up with.

And for gods sake don’t get pregnant to him again!

DeeCeeCherry · 15/06/2023 00:25

He's a cheater, and you already know that. Your choice is whether to put up with this or not. There's no in-between it's yes or no. Shouting at him and locking him out won't change a thing. I don't know how you can even be bothered to live with all this drama and stress but, its up to you. Put up with it, or end relationship.

SarahDippity · 15/06/2023 01:13

You can’t argue an asshole into not being an asshole. Save your energy for creating a new life for yourself. He sounds dreadful and incapable of a stable relationship. Don’t bother trying to rescue or persuade him. You will only lose yourself and your own emotional needs if you invest all your mental energy in trying to change him. Sorry.

Seddon · 15/06/2023 01:29

@Watchkeys has said everything you need to hear OP. Read it over and over again until it sinks in.

OhcantthInkofaname · 15/06/2023 01:46

In a normal relationship stopping for a couple of drinks does not mean in all nighter. Something is wrong.

ShandaLear · 15/06/2023 04:25

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 13/06/2023 12:34

Why choose a cheating asshole to be the father of two children? Why?

I don’t understand the point of comments like these. They’re irrelevant and don’t help the OP in any way.

OP, you don’t trust him and you’re incompatible. He’s sounds pretty awful and in your shoes I would leave him.

QueenBitch666 · 15/06/2023 14:09

Why do some women have children with absolute scrotes and then complain about them? 🤷‍♀️
Raise your standards and for your children's sake don't have any more kids

Thisisworsethananticpated · 15/06/2023 14:20

QueenBitch666

jesus 🙈
very apt username !!!

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