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Stand off with DH over bathing making me so anxious

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tomcat73 · 11/06/2023 09:42

LTR, both in 50's. This has been going on for some time (I would say this stand off is a year or 2 but making me more and more stressed).

It will sound so minor and ridiculous but it is creating such stress and anxiety for me.

My DH likes to have a bath, not a shower. He likes the "soak" and feels like he doesn't get clean properly in a shower (he has job where he can get quite dirty), and also he likes to wet shave in the bath (hates doing it just at a mirror with a sink).

He also has a thing about saving water. So this means that he wants me to have a bath first and then he can get in afterwards.

So as not to drip feed - i guess we have done this a lot for our relationship - early days we had properties that didn't have a shower, and then with small children we would jump in the water after them for convenience. (and he says why do we have to change?)

However I find having a bath time consuming, I often want to shower in the morning not bathe at night, or want to shower when I feel dirty/sweaty (my job can be quite physical). I also think my hair washed much better in shower than rinsing with a jug in the bath.

He has a habit of saying "can we bathe tonight" and gets really arsy if I say I don't want one as I have already showered or like last night it was so hot yesterday I showered not bathed. He was sulking and angry all evening (made it about something else but I know it was about this). He has asked again this morning "can we bathe tonight". I have said it is too hot, and he just goes on about how I can have a cold bath (it's apparently no different to me getting in a lake when i swim???), and that he wants to shave.

We end up in this argument of why can't I just have a bath, it saves water if the two of us share a bath (I actually disagree on this as the 2nd person always puts more water in so I think a one person bath and one person shower would be the same - i have quick showers and we don't have a crazy power shower).

He has even in the past then refused to have a bath himself and had a strip wash instead (making a point that he hates showers).

There is total major guilt trip and such anger from him - i know this is totally weird and out of proportion and I can't live my having this much anxiety over a fucking bath, but equally I can't deal with the fall out when I stand up to him.
He thinks I am being totally unreasonable.

I am going away for work for a few weeks tomorrow, and seriously thinking of sending an email about this to him when I am away so I can clearly lay down boundaries whilst having some space away.

Not sure how else to deal with this in an assertive way without ending up in a major row :(

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MetalFences · 11/06/2023 14:14

ABugWife · 11/06/2023 14:03

Have a shower with the plug in, he can bathe in your run off.

And is it OK with you if she has a shower when she likes or should she just have one before he wants a bath like he's telling her to?

napody · 11/06/2023 14:16

Also:

  • does he respect you having different preferences to him in other things?
And
  • do you have to stay in while he shaves?! Yuck.
napody · 11/06/2023 14:16

Could he have OCD?

diddl · 11/06/2023 14:17

It's surely abuse because he gets angry & manipulative.

Op if you never have a bath again it shouldn't matter to him at all.

You want to shower.

That's it.

There should be no discussion after that.

I hope that you manage to get away.

Maray1967 · 11/06/2023 14:20

determinedtomakethiswork · 11/06/2023 09:47

He sounds like a nutcase. Tell him he can do what he wants and you can do what you want. The idea of someone saying can we bathe tonight actually makes me shudder.

This was my response as well.

OP, the only compromise I can think of, is for you to shower with the plug in and then get out leaving him with a bath with the water in.

Maray1967 · 11/06/2023 14:21

Just spotted do some has suggested that.
But I agree with others that his attitude is controlling- I don’t usually shower at night.

Maray1967 · 11/06/2023 14:22

Spotted that someone!!!

toodlesofoodles · 11/06/2023 14:37

"Can we bathe tonight" has given me so much ick I could barely read the rest.

It's control, do not "compromise" and shower with the plug in etc as he'll just then be telling you when to shower.

I'd be wary of sending any emails while away as you might come home to find the shower gone. I believe he would easily go to this level in order to try to keep his control over you.

In the kindest way, you really, really need to leave him.

Jesseweneedtocook · 11/06/2023 14:43

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 11/06/2023 09:47

"can we bathe tonight"

Ick

This exact part squeeved me out too. Yuck 😂😂 I couldn't handle this op I hate baths it's just lying in your own dirt showers are much more refreshing

whynotwhatknot · 11/06/2023 14:47

its about control-whats he going to do when youre away with work

ifIwerenotanandroid · 11/06/2023 14:53

I'd be wary of sending any emails while away as you might come home to find the shower gone. I believe he would easily go to this level in order to try to keep his control over you. @toodlesofoodles

I was going to suggest OP gets the bathroom remodelled secretly & gets rid of the bath.

Purplepeaches123 · 11/06/2023 14:54

Absolutely bonkers and sharing bath water is disgusting anyway.

queensonia · 11/06/2023 14:55

If it’s really just about saving water tell him to use his own bath water to flush the toilet and water the garden (if you have one). If your shower is the kind that is over the bath you could leave the plug in while you shower and he can use that water too. But don’t change your own showering routine to suit him

FFF3 · 11/06/2023 14:55

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 11/06/2023 09:47

"can we bathe tonight"

Ick

Haha I thought exactly the same.

keyboardkat · 11/06/2023 14:55

Again, does he demand that the kids save water by using his/yours/their run offs?

I'd guess it is just you.

HowardKirksConscience · 11/06/2023 14:58

What a bloody awful way to spend your life, being married to someone as controlling and wearing as this. Remember your wedding day? Did you think it would come to this?

Kamia · 11/06/2023 15:02

It sounds a bit nasty. Him washing in all your dirt and sweat. That would put me off.

I also wouldn't want that sort of intrusion into my private self care schedule.

JudgeRudy · 11/06/2023 15:03

Does gour OH have autism or OCD. This behaviour is very rigid. ....and weird. In fact I completely agree with @DannyLaRuesBestFrock .....'Ick 🤢 '

It's so odd I'm unsure if simply being annoyed or even raging is quite right. No wonder you feel anxious. Mu head wouldn't know how to digest this. Maybe fight odd with odder? Each time he brings it up burst into song, do a Hakka, count the prime numbers aloud....anything to stop him in his tracks and realise how odd he is behaving.
Oh and ask your water supplier for some saving tips....they will undoubtedly tell you the shower is cheaper.
Of course you could just pacify him and say yes dear....take your showercand leave the plug in....then he can bathe away in your like warm dregs.

CosmosQueen · 11/06/2023 15:06

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 11/06/2023 09:51

Ick 😳

My husband used to say this, I just ignored him.
🤢

Maddy70 · 11/06/2023 15:06

Just have a shower and let him have a bath both do what you want

tothelefttotheleft · 11/06/2023 15:07

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That's one of the weirdest things I've read about relationships!!!

BrownOwlknowsbest · 11/06/2023 15:10

So, get the shower fitted over the bath if it isn't already. Put the plug in the bath. Have your shower and let the water collect in the bath. Dry off and add water to make a usable depth. He can then have a bath in your washing water. End of problem????

Twilight7777 · 11/06/2023 15:11

I got the ick reading that so I don’t know how you cope. It’s control.

INeedAnotherName · 11/06/2023 15:13

BrownOwlknowsbest · 11/06/2023 15:10

So, get the shower fitted over the bath if it isn't already. Put the plug in the bath. Have your shower and let the water collect in the bath. Dry off and add water to make a usable depth. He can then have a bath in your washing water. End of problem????

Well no. That still means he gets to choose what time/day she can shower. That's not normal either.

He's being abusive OP, and that's why you are feeling this way.

usernother · 11/06/2023 15:16

This is one of the weirdest things I've ever read on MN.

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