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Can someone tell me how I should feel over DH's bombshell? Money

591 replies

ASeagullNamedDog · 26/05/2023 22:41

It turns out H has been raiding our savings for the last 18m-ish on the secret

He has spent £45k behind my back on fuck all - 37k of that in actual saved money, and wasting at least £800 per month out of his wages somewhere else

Nothing to show for it, says he doesn't know where it's gone

I've only found out as I asked him to transfer £15k for a big purchase

This money was earmarked for our children's future

This is divorce material, isn't it?

No secret children or other women, apparently not a gambling habit

I'm very calm but I'm not sure if I'm calm because I'm gonna crack up in an hour or two and bury him

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GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:13

@Kennykenkencat

Within a few days I had reduced our outgoings by £2000 per month.

how so? That’s not being bad with money. That being catastrophic with money

FavouriteDogMug · 27/05/2023 15:21

It's £45K he knows where the vast majority of it has gone! Ok a few thousand can disappear on food and stuff over a year if you are not careful things do add up, but not that amount. It doesn't matter if he returns it he needs to tell you what he has done with it.

ChristmasFluff · 27/05/2023 15:25

For your marriage to survive he would have had to admit to everything almost immediately, including full disclosure on where the money has gone.

The fact that he hasn't - yeah you are right to think it is done.

I am so sorry, but it's the very best thing for you and the children.

CabernetSauvignon · 27/05/2023 15:32

Have you seen his bank and credit card statements? Do they throw light on what has been happening?

oviraptor21 · 27/05/2023 15:34

PineappleLatte · 27/05/2023 12:12

Agreed. This doesn’t make sense. Why touch joint savings if you have so much available.

In case this hasn't already been said (and just quoting one of the many on the same lines) because he wants to keep his own pot of money - likely to send it the same way as the savings.

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:40

So he would have just blown his own money and you’d be none the wiser

but he chose to use joint money

and then when you find out, he transfer the £60k to you anyway without hesitation

odd 🤔

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:41

oviraptor21 · 27/05/2023 15:34

In case this hasn't already been said (and just quoting one of the many on the same lines) because he wants to keep his own pot of money - likely to send it the same way as the savings.

Yes but he’s transferred it all anyway. Without argument

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:42

I've only found out as I asked him to transfer £15k for a big purchase

I would love to know what your £15k big purchase is!

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:44

I plan to go through the bank statements shortly

“shortly”? After starting a Mumsnet thread and updating multiple time with detailed posts 🤷‍♀️

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:45

* I haven't been to bed because I've had thoughts of husbands murdering their wives and children while they sleep*

come again?

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:46

So he’s gone from ideal perfect husband to one with spending tens of thousands secretly and you worrying about him murdering you and your children during the night??

Sighhhhh · 27/05/2023 15:47

@GiveupHQ maybe go away. You’re very unhelpful

sixpencenonethepoorer · 27/05/2023 15:50

Sighhhhh · 27/05/2023 15:47

@GiveupHQ maybe go away. You’re very unhelpful

Agreed. Shock and despair does dreadful things to people. Belittling the OP is possibly the least helpful comment on this thread.

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:53

but the op in post 2 says she hasn’t gone to bed because she’s thinking about husbands murdering families in the night

and that’s just been glossed over

this doesn’t strike you as a slightly fucking concerning worry to have about someone who you have known and loved for years who you’ve uncovered a financial issue rather than anything remotely indicating murder plus tendencies

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/05/2023 16:00

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:53

but the op in post 2 says she hasn’t gone to bed because she’s thinking about husbands murdering families in the night

and that’s just been glossed over

this doesn’t strike you as a slightly fucking concerning worry to have about someone who you have known and loved for years who you’ve uncovered a financial issue rather than anything remotely indicating murder plus tendencies

Men can turn violent when they realise that the game is up. Remember that school headmistress whose husband shot her and their daughter?

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 27/05/2023 16:12

@GiveupHQ

So you've never heard of a man turning on his family when cornered? Crime history is full of it. And a lot of times it will be someone who you wouldn't have ever thought was capable of it.

OP has been totally blindsided by her husband's deception, she never thought he would do something of that sort. If it were me I couldn't help thinking that I clearly don't know this person as I had thought, and who knows what else they may be willing to do?

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 16:16

Ok then I’ll bow out

because at no point would it have ver crossed my mind for a nano second that my ex husband was going to murder me and the children whilst we slept when I found out he had told me multiple lies over over a year.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/05/2023 16:19

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 16:16

Ok then I’ll bow out

because at no point would it have ver crossed my mind for a nano second that my ex husband was going to murder me and the children whilst we slept when I found out he had told me multiple lies over over a year.

I think we can assume that OP knows her husband rather better than you do. Her fear might be unfounded but for some reason it has occurred to her, and IMO it's pretty poor form to imply that just because YOU wouldn't think your husband's capable of killing his family then another woman shouldn't think so either.

Bye bye.

raincamepouringdown · 27/05/2023 16:26

EdinaCrump · 27/05/2023 11:09

Yes very bizarre that he has £60k in his account but chose to raid the joint savings…

Quite

GarlicGrace · 27/05/2023 16:30

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 16:16

Ok then I’ll bow out

because at no point would it have ver crossed my mind for a nano second that my ex husband was going to murder me and the children whilst we slept when I found out he had told me multiple lies over over a year.

Didn't cross my mind, either. But he did. Not when I found out, but just before I left. These are the two most critical trigger points (there are others).

Weallgottachangesometime · 27/05/2023 16:33

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:46

So he’s gone from ideal perfect husband to one with spending tens of thousands secretly and you worrying about him murdering you and your children during the night??

You need to get on google and look at some news headlines…it’s not that unheard of

Therealjudgejudy · 27/05/2023 16:43

Of course he knows what he spent the money on

Tabitha1960 · 27/05/2023 16:52

I think you have to ask him straight: did it go on gambling, class A drugs, or prostitutes? Or what combo of those 3?

Irritateandunreasonable · 27/05/2023 16:54

ASeagullNamedDog · 27/05/2023 10:55

I'm back

He hasn't lost his job, we work together

He has agreed to transfer me what remains in his account - around £60k

No drug usage. Definitely not.

Maybe another woman? Probably

My marriage is over.

I can max out the children's Premium Bonds under their own names - can he access these as parent? He isn't named on their accounts, just me

I’m so sorry but I have seen so many women have absolutely no idea that their partners were drug addicts until something like this happened. This is gambling or drugs.

CurlyQueues · 27/05/2023 16:56

GiveupHQ · 27/05/2023 15:53

but the op in post 2 says she hasn’t gone to bed because she’s thinking about husbands murdering families in the night

and that’s just been glossed over

this doesn’t strike you as a slightly fucking concerning worry to have about someone who you have known and loved for years who you’ve uncovered a financial issue rather than anything remotely indicating murder plus tendencies

Jane Monckton Smith's In Control: Dangerous Relationships and How They End in Murder might help you understand.