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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
WingingItSince1973 · 10/05/2023 21:42

@kokotheguerilla wanted to add my respect to you also for your response.

OP if this is real. This is no way to live. He's only using you as a place to sleep by the sounds of it. So sorry x

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 10/05/2023 21:42

Anyone else dying for an update

XelaM · 10/05/2023 21:45

It's most likely an affair:(

SplendidUtterly · 10/05/2023 21:49

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 10/05/2023 21:42

Anyone else dying for an update

Me!!

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 10/05/2023 21:50

😂😂

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 10/05/2023 21:50

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 10/05/2023 21:42

Anyone else dying for an update

This isn’t an episode of Eastenders. Why are you ‘dying for an update’ when it’s literally someone’s life? If this is real ofc

Hairday · 10/05/2023 21:51

Omg leave the poor man alone! No wonder he hesitates to share his emotions. He was sad. Sympathy is the only reasonable response and don't hunt him down!

Chocrock · 10/05/2023 21:51

It doesn’t sound good OP but I hope that there is a plausible explanation and a good outcome for you

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 10/05/2023 21:52

Because, like I can bet most people are on this thread, I’m rather invested in this woman’s experience. Real life or not. It’s an intriguing situation and not a very nice on for the OP. So yes I’m dying for an update…that okay?

WordHelp · 10/05/2023 21:52

SplendidUtterly · 10/05/2023 21:49

Me!!

On the basis that MN admin has taken out the trollhunting posts and left this thread intact and still up, we can assume this is actually someone's life.

Unbelievable.

Greyarea12 · 10/05/2023 21:52

At least now he can't keep gaslighting you. He deserves his bags to be packed for that alone.

Sarahtm35 · 10/05/2023 21:55

Hairday · 10/05/2023 21:51

Omg leave the poor man alone! No wonder he hesitates to share his emotions. He was sad. Sympathy is the only reasonable response and don't hunt him down!

So if you were in OP situation you wouldn’t think anything of it? If someone you love is crying you ask them what’s the matter. If they try and hide the reason you worry. It’s perfectly normal for OP to be determined to find out why given the circumstances.

Comeonskinnylove · 10/05/2023 21:55

Hairday · 10/05/2023 21:51

Omg leave the poor man alone! No wonder he hesitates to share his emotions. He was sad. Sympathy is the only reasonable response and don't hunt him down!

Yeah because it's totally normal to display these emotions to your neighbour while just popping out to "cut the grass"

MsJinks · 10/05/2023 21:56

All Jill knows about you is what your partner has been telling her. She hasn’t spoken to you for a while - my guess is that he told her stuff about you back then - if it’s something around an affair it’s usually ‘psycho ex’ and ‘I can’t leave her as she’d crack up without me’. So he may from then have told her that you’ll do crazy stuff to her/her family if you find out re an affair/loan/whatever.
I’m not sure he’s having an affair with her/relative, or it’s something else, but she’s worried you’re going to cause trouble - unfortunately going round just sorta encourages that belief, however rational you are with her.
It’s easy to say, and it’s true, that whatever the reason for your partner crying your relationship isn’t worth saving and you’re better than this. However, it’s hard to do and the desire to ‘know’ is desperate at times. There’s things you can search to try and find out but it does just prolong it all. Whatever you choose take care.

Hairday · 10/05/2023 21:56

This thread is actually scary, all the mad people on it.

Men can have moments of sadness. It's not a crime, and we're not entitled to an explanation.

StaunchMomma · 10/05/2023 21:59

Sounds to me like they've been having a fling and she's worried you're going to tell her husband and hence wreck her family.

He's a spineless shit, OP. A gaslighting one at that.

Hairday · 10/05/2023 22:00

Sarahtm35 · 10/05/2023 21:55

So if you were in OP situation you wouldn’t think anything of it? If someone you love is crying you ask them what’s the matter. If they try and hide the reason you worry. It’s perfectly normal for OP to be determined to find out why given the circumstances.

It's really not normal. If my husband was crying unexpectedly (completely out of character for him) I'd be giving love and support. I wouldn't be peppering him with questions and stalking him, accusing him of cheating. I mean, no wonder he tried to hide it.

Flowertight · 10/05/2023 22:05

Oh come the fuck on

Evanna13 · 10/05/2023 22:05

I hope you get some answers x

CaroleSinger · 10/05/2023 22:06

Definitely something going on. That's a really weird reaction from her right from the second you just asked to talk that she stormed off and told you to leave her and her family alone. Seriously wtf?? I'm convinced he's been seeing her and she gave him an ultimatum.

CaroleSinger · 10/05/2023 22:09

StaunchMomma · 10/05/2023 21:59

Sounds to me like they've been having a fling and she's worried you're going to tell her husband and hence wreck her family.

He's a spineless shit, OP. A gaslighting one at that.

Sounds like she gave an ultimatum and is angry that he didn't leave OP. She probably thinks OP knows he's been playing away and is avoiding her because she can't face up to the fact she's been dumped.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 10/05/2023 22:09

@Hairday

The op looks as though she tried to do that initially and it's his behaviour and his moodiness with her that's made her wonder what's going on. The poor woman doesn't even appear to have considered that he may be cheating until the vast majority of women on here suspect it from the multiple clues that he has given via his behaviour.
Can you explain no phone calls to op but happy to take calls off anyone else? The only explanation I can see is cheating.

Dweetfidilove · 10/05/2023 22:13

WalkingOnTheCracks · 10/05/2023 19:22

How well do you know the neighbour? Is it possible that she's a post-op transexual who was mentoring him through the process in secret and they've fallen out because the name he wants to adopt happens to be her mother's?

I mean, I have absolutely no evidence to suggest that that might be accurate, but apparently that's not a prerequisite for speculation on this thread. I mean, something's going on, obviously - but 'has she got any young female relatives'?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stop! You might hurt yourself 🤦🏾‍♀️

LaDamaDeElche · 10/05/2023 22:15

ilovewispas · 10/05/2023 21:38

Confront him. If he refuses to tell you, tell him to leave.

This!

Snowdrop90 · 10/05/2023 22:18

I’m also thinking an affair with a relative of hers. I know this is a reach and my mind is going wild for you, but if there is another woman, what if something tragic has happened to her, unrelated to your dp like a serious injury, death even. Your ndn was very hostile.

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