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Cohabiting couples- do you ever share surnames?

137 replies

Greenbanana5 · 21/04/2023 08:43

Hiya,

I wondered how many, if any, women have changed their surname to match that of their unmarried partner?

I am divorced and now with my partner of 4 years. I don’t want to keep my married name and never felt comfortable with my maiden name as my childhood wasn’t particularly great. I love my partner’s name and our baby has his surname so I’m considering changing too, to be more of a family unit, but wondered how common that is?

OP posts:
Channellingsophistication · 21/04/2023 11:54

It seems odd to me to change your name to your partners name without being married, although I knew someone who did that.

I am divorced (for years now) and with DP, but kept ExH surname thinking me and DP would marry at some point and I would change. DP doesn’t want to marry me (thats another story) so I have now reverted to a new name.

My maiden name felt like my baby name. Luckily my middle name can be used as a surname so I have changed to use that instead (essentially just chopping off old surname). Very happy that I have done so!

is there another option for you?

sugarspices · 21/04/2023 11:57

What is odd about wanting to have the same name as your child? I would think it's more odd to want to have a different name to your child.

aberlot · 21/04/2023 11:58

CapaciousHag · 21/04/2023 11:47

Why would you expect her to mention her financial situation on a thread where she is asking about names?

@aberlot The OP mentioned her baby, so she almost certainly has already suffered some financial disruption through maternity leave and/ or childcare. She also made it clear she is unmarried. In the general run of things that combination puts women at a disadvantage. So it is crucially relevant - and papering over by changing your name might seem a bit … pointless. If the OP had said “But don’t worry, my decision not to get married is informed by my current strong financial position” no one would need to waste time querying her situation.

Anyway, the thread has moved on …

OP didn't ask about any of this. OP asked about names. Not finances. Not marriage. Names.

SufferingCarlos · 21/04/2023 12:09

aberlot · 21/04/2023 11:58

OP didn't ask about any of this. OP asked about names. Not finances. Not marriage. Names.

Why do people keep saying this?
You ask on a public forum, you don't get to control the answers. It's not an exam. People can reply however they wish and she can disregard comments. These issues were brought up because they are directly relevant and connected to the question. It's not a 1+1 calculation it's a discussion. That's how it works on chat forums.

RuthW · 21/04/2023 12:12

Call yourself whatever you like, just do a deed polll.

SufferingCarlos · 21/04/2023 12:13

And better for her to know in advance that most people as demonstrated here think it's strange and offered a very valid alternative to achieve what she wants to achieve which is marriage.
I bet if it were about something else that is less triggering like a style and beauty topic she would have welcomed alternative suggestions and ideas, it's only because she and other posters had this hit a sore spot for them that they are being arsey about widening the discussion.

pinkyredrose · 21/04/2023 12:22

AbsolutePixels · 21/04/2023 10:35

Get married, then change your name. Marriage will protect you financially and provide a more stable environment for your child.

Marriage can also leave you in a lot of debt!

pinkyredrose · 21/04/2023 12:25

Lcb123 · 21/04/2023 11:09

Why not just get married, even small at registry office. It would make the admin of name changing easier. Saying that I'm married and won't be changing my name as can't face the admin!

How would it make it easier? Surely the admin of the wedding would be more of a ballache?

aberlot · 21/04/2023 12:32

@SufferingCarlos

Why do people keep saying this?
You ask on a public forum, you don't get to control the answers.

It was part of a wider conversation where someone thought OP should have mentioned her financial position when she posted.

I don't give a shit what people say and I'm not here to control answers but equally it's reasonable to ask why something thought that should have been disclosed on a thread about names.

Megifer · 21/04/2023 12:33

I'm not married, its not for me, but I sometimes refer to DP as DH or don't correct people if they assume I'm married and I wear an engagement looking ring on my ring finger <gasp>

Some people can get a bit weird if it looks like you're married but not, like its taking something away from their relationship 🙄

I know a few people who have changed their name for various reasons. If you want to just go for it, no one else's opinion on this subject matters and if people think you're married who cares!

Mylittlesandwich · 21/04/2023 12:37

My mum did this before she had her children so we would all have the same surname. They split and she stuck with the name so we would remain the same. Now both her children have different surnames and she still has his. She may change it but at this point it's been 30 years so she'd have a lot to change.

mindutopia · 21/04/2023 12:39

The only person I know who did it basically did it because she wanted to seem married when her partner wouldn't marry her. He's a millionaire many times over now (they met late teens/early 20s and are in late 60s now), so he's really managed to short her sadly and kept her tied to a relationship she should have left decades ago (the lack of marriage, not the name change). I always assumed they were married, so I think you will run into that issue - or having to explain to people why you didn't invite them to the 'wedding'.

That said, while it would be my personal preference to be married, I do get the desire to change your name and be a family unit. I was very ready to get rid of my dad's surname as he was a jerk and never involved in my life and long dead at that point. It didn't feel like 'my' name. The name I share with dh and dc is much more 'my' name than that one ever was. So I do get the desire to do it.

I can't see any reason not to as long as you're prepared to do lots of explaining at first because I expect people will be confused.

CapaciousHag · 21/04/2023 12:39

someone thought OP should have mentioned her financial position when she posted.

Slightly more nuanced than that. As a matter of thread etiquette I generally hope that a poster would make it clear if they’re in a situation that is not the standard one people might assume. When an OP doesn’t do that you can get dozens of responses based on a misunderstanding.

CapaciousHag · 21/04/2023 12:43

The other issue!

MercyChant66 · 21/04/2023 13:40

WilkinsonM · 21/04/2023 10:39

Marriage might protect her financially but it might not! I'm getting married soon and having a legal contract drawn up around MY property as I have more and earn more than DP. Don't make assumptions. As to whether it's more stable for children - again the assumptions! Who's to say they are planning on children together? Married couples are no more likely to stay together after children than cohabiting ones.

Exactly - in my co-habiting situation, I'm financially much better off being unmarried!

PousseyNotMoira · 21/04/2023 13:41

SleepingTilSummer · 21/04/2023 09:49

Many women’s surnames would originally be from a man though, their fathers. That’s why the idea of choosing my own surname appealed to me. It’s mine.

The ‘originating from a man’ thing never really made sense to me, either. Men’s names generally also came from their fathers. It’s not considered a mark of transience for them. Why is it the case for women?

I genuinely don’t care where my name came from. It’s my name.

That said, I completely understand your approach of choosing your own name. That’s entirely yours and I get the motivation behind it. I don’t get the motivation of changing your name (and, in OP’s framing, your identity) multiple times for multiple relationships.

Suprima · 21/04/2023 13:48

Looks desperate.

One of my grandmothers did this because my grandfather refused to marry her, so that’s what I think of when I hear of people doing this. It’s pretty common.

if you don’t want to get married for whatever reason- choose a new name for you both and both change your name via deed poll.

I’m married and I haven’t changed my name out of principle, so the thought of adopting this patriarchal custom for a man who didn’t even propose to me is absolutely mind boggling

Whenisitsummer · 21/04/2023 13:53

I don’t know anyone who has took their partners surname when cohabiting. I know a few married women who have kept their maiden name though. I don’t think there is a right or wrong.

Lastnamedidntstick · 21/04/2023 14:08

SleepingTilSummer · 21/04/2023 10:10

Because they presume everyone is desperate to be married. 😬

Weird isn’t it.

i didn’t change my name but still many people still address me as “Mrs dh”. They don’t seem to understand that it isn’t some sort of compliment that I’ve managed to snag a man.

the posters getting upset here seem to think that there’s some sort of cachet to being married and are pissed off that someone could get the marital privilege of name changing, without actually being married.

o/p do what you want. So what if people think you’re married?

fwiw I like having a different name to my kids. I don’t quite get why people are so tied to it, it’s for a relatively short period in my life and tbh it’s never really come up. Especially if you have girls- if you think women should change their names, then you aren’t going to have the same name forever anyway.

Nocutenamesleft · 21/04/2023 14:12

Greenbanana5 · 21/04/2023 08:43

Hiya,

I wondered how many, if any, women have changed their surname to match that of their unmarried partner?

I am divorced and now with my partner of 4 years. I don’t want to keep my married name and never felt comfortable with my maiden name as my childhood wasn’t particularly great. I love my partner’s name and our baby has his surname so I’m considering changing too, to be more of a family unit, but wondered how common that is?

Yes I did. I’m married now but I changed mine deed poll when my children were born because I didn’t want a different surname

Nocutenamesleft · 21/04/2023 14:13

Can I just say it’s a pain in the arse for car insurance. Computer says no when I lived with my husband. Wasn’t married but had mrs and the same surname

just to warn you!

CapaciousHag · 21/04/2023 14:14

the posters getting upset here seem to think that there’s some sort of cachet to being married and are pissed off that someone could get the marital privilege of name changing, without actually being married.

This is the most egregious misstating of facts I’ve seen all year! Grin

Nocutenamesleft · 21/04/2023 14:14

And yes people thought we were married and it was particularly funny when we did get married as it was

dl you sammy fisher take Freddie fisher (same Surnames). Hehehe.

apart from that I don’t know if people thought I was married. It never really came up….

Nocutenamesleft · 21/04/2023 14:17

SufferingCarlos · 21/04/2023 09:26

Does anyone here HONESTLY know anyone who has done this????
I can't think of any unmarried couples who did this.

Me!!!

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