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Grown up stepdaughter disowned me

146 replies

2marriages1love · 19/04/2023 14:45

Hi
12 yeas ago I met a man who was separating from his partner.
I had known him 26 years previously - we had a brief affair. We both had partners and I had two children.
cut a long story short, we were going to leave our partners but one of my boys has Cerebral Palsy and my Ex threatened to financially cut me off if I left him (he ran his own business)
so we stopped the affair and that was that. The man I had the affair with had told his partner and, naturally she was furious. I actually wrote her a letter apologising and explained my feelings. She blamed me 100%.
They went on to have two daughters.
i tried to leave my husband many times as I was so unhappy but he was coercive, controlling and had a level of passive aggression you could not fathom.
Bear with me.
I eventually left my husband who I will refer to as S.
The man I had the affair with found out - I will call him B.
B came looking for me and tried and tried to get me to meet with him as he and his partner had agreed to split.
i kept refusing - I guess I was scared of getting back into a relationship.
eventually I gave in, we met up and it was as though no time had passed and we fell straight back in love.
B’s daughters were 4 and 11 at the time. Mine were grown up.
B moved in with me. His Ex kept asking who his new partner was. He avoided telling her for a while but when she found out it was me she was apoplectic and decided she wanted him back. There was a lot of manipulation and he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit.
Meanwhile I had met his girls and we got on really well, particularly the older one. She could be a bit of a diva and was a little histrionic like her mother but she was clever, funny and came to our wedding when B and I married. She moved in with us and refused to speak to her mother for six months. No idea why.
Part of her drama was pretending to be afraid of dogs. I had one at the time and she got used to her and would walk her in the lead.
one day she decided to go back and live with her mother and sister (I had encouraged her continuously to try and keep contact - you only have one mum, blah blah)
B and I bought a brand new house together. My dog had got run over a couple of years previously, it was devastating. The girls continued to visit on weekends.
We decided to get a puppy and B sent pictures of it to his girls.
All Hell let loose. I began getting viscous texts from the older daughter which began with “well you got your new house and now you have a dog which is the cherry in the cake” she went on to bombard me with horrible messages stating that I knew she did not like dogs and basically she would never forgive me. Arguments went on between her and her father and for two years they did not speak until one day her mother phoned B and said she had enough of this division and that she felt they should reconcile. Reconcile they did. However I was still the bad guy and she would not speak to me for a further 9 years.
meanwhile, whilst living at home with a mother who supposedly hated dogs and with a supposed dog phobia that had caused such a massive rift, she bought herself a puppy.
Now this made me quite angry and I told B this.
However he continued as if nothing had happened (although he did agree that they had made themselves look rather stupid) and he and the girls met up regularly.
When B turned 50 I arranged a huge family get together with his family. I texted the elder daughter and asked if she would come. She replied she would come “purely for his sake”. Ok. The day went well but despite me trying to make conversation with her this daughter made Zero effort. She is now 21.
i have heard nothing since.
The crux of my issues with this is that I can’t stop being angry that B and his daughter carry on as if in parallel worlds. He has never pulled her up on the hypocrisy of getting a dog, her previous behaviour and how badly she treated me.
When she lived with us I completely went out of my way to support her, help her with homework, projects etc. Pick her up from school. Take her clothes shopping. She even started her period when she was estranged from her mother and I bought her a “happy grown up present” of some Gucci perfume and looked after her.
I want to know how to stop being angry - couple counselling helped a bit but I feel unsupported by B for playing happy families after the huge hurt she caused me.
He says I overreact- maybe I do?
I know he loves me to bits and I adore him but I just want this angry upset to go away.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Sorry for the long post but this was a quarter of a century in the making!

OP posts:
GulfCoastBeachGirl · 22/04/2023 21:10

have come to realise that I have an amazing life with the man that absolutely loves me unconditionally no matter what

We love each other with every cell I our bodies. That can never change?

I used to write flowery stuff like this when I was a teenager and devouring Romance novels🙄

In your original post you were angry, felt unsupported and had tried couples' therapy. You two are quite the mercurial couple!

justasmalltownmum · 22/04/2023 21:26

The drama is too old and long ago. Just move on for your own peace.

fairycakes1234 · 24/04/2023 11:43

GulfCoastBeachGirl · 22/04/2023 21:10

have come to realise that I have an amazing life with the man that absolutely loves me unconditionally no matter what

We love each other with every cell I our bodies. That can never change?

I used to write flowery stuff like this when I was a teenager and devouring Romance novels🙄

In your original post you were angry, felt unsupported and had tried couples' therapy. You two are quite the mercurial couple!

@GulfCoastBeachGirl what benefit is it you being so horrible, she asked for advice, either give her advice or be quiet. Are you like this in real life? God help the people around you.

GulfCoastBeachGirl · 24/04/2023 18:52

what benefit is it you being so horrible, she asked for advice, either give her advice or be quiet. Are you like this in real life? God help the people around you

@fairycakes1234 If you find my fairly benign post "horrible" then MN must be an endless source of disappointment to you🙄

In dozens, if not hundreds, of posts the OP has gotten some variation of the same advice: Move on, let your husband sort out his relationship with his daughter, let go of past grievances. Seems like pretty sound advice.

In her recent updates the OP has chosen to cast herself as the heroine in her own fairytale, conveniently absolving herself of any responsibility in the situation. Pointing out that she's coming across as something of a fantasist is hardly "horrible".

And the people around me are doing just fine, thanks😀

Mycathatesmecuddling · 24/04/2023 21:25

fairycakes1234 · 24/04/2023 11:43

@GulfCoastBeachGirl what benefit is it you being so horrible, she asked for advice, either give her advice or be quiet. Are you like this in real life? God help the people around you.

What benefit is it you being so horrible to @GulfCoastBeachGirl , she gave an opinion either augment it or be quiet. Are you like this in real life? God help the people around you.

readbooksdrinktea · 24/04/2023 21:34

She could be a bit of a diva and was a little histrionic like her mother

You have some cheek.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 24/04/2023 22:26

Houselamp · 20/04/2023 16:16

@22marriages1love
"There was a lot of manipulation and he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit.
Meanwhile I had met his girls and we got on really well"

This is the bit where you broke their family up, because he went back to her repeatedly.
If you hadn't been an option any of those times, he wouldn't have left again. I get they were already seperated by the second time you got together- but there were at least periods where they were a family again "because of the children" and then that stopped because he "couldn't bear to be without" you.

I'm not saying this is on you- it was his choice and he was the one messing his kids around by doing this, but for the daughters perspective- this is the main bit where you directly caused her family to break up. Especially as you were meeting the daughters at this time, so you are the one they were going to blame. That is how it seems from what you have written.

This.

2marriages1love · 08/05/2023 14:33

Oh. So it’s all my fault.?!Don’t think so - do you really believe that men are so stupid they can be manipulated by their ex? Do you honestly think they are so stupid that they will be controlled by their previous partner who they really don’t want to be with?
get a grip. This is real life and we as both parents have taken a solid, balanced attitude and have made sure we have taken care of all children involved.
we have NOTHING to be ashamed of and all of you that find yourselves judging is through anger and vitriole need to take a good look at yourselves and your own life. Look at yourselves and your issues very carefully. It’s always hard to separate your own experiences and anger from your life experiences but are you really happy? If you are not then you need to look a little deeper into yourself and have some humility and def awareness.

OP posts:
PaintedEgg · 08/05/2023 14:42

you actually have a lot to be ashamed of and while you're both guilty, a kid will probably try and have some sort of relationship with their actual parent, while the annoying stranger does not need or deserve the same treatment

monsteramunch · 08/05/2023 14:43

He does have something to be ashamed of though. This.

he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit.

His poor kids must have been so confused and felt in a cycle of rejection and relief.

Hopefully he's trying to make up for it now by not putting them last again because at the time they absolutely weren't being put first by the adults involved.

Good luck with everything.

Dilemma19 · 08/05/2023 15:45

You really sound like an awful person and living the life you've sown. Your affair partner doesn't support you, the kids don't like you and you are miserable. Sounds about right.

Dilemma19 · 08/05/2023 15:47

And the audacity of you to think they owe you anything. You played a part in wrecking their home, they owe you nothing.

Mycathatesmecuddling · 08/05/2023 15:48

2marriages1love · 08/05/2023 14:33

Oh. So it’s all my fault.?!Don’t think so - do you really believe that men are so stupid they can be manipulated by their ex? Do you honestly think they are so stupid that they will be controlled by their previous partner who they really don’t want to be with?
get a grip. This is real life and we as both parents have taken a solid, balanced attitude and have made sure we have taken care of all children involved.
we have NOTHING to be ashamed of and all of you that find yourselves judging is through anger and vitriole need to take a good look at yourselves and your own life. Look at yourselves and your issues very carefully. It’s always hard to separate your own experiences and anger from your life experiences but are you really happy? If you are not then you need to look a little deeper into yourself and have some humility and def awareness.

Ah yes your humility and awareness is just shining through here as you berate other posters based on your assumptions about them

baileys6904 · 08/05/2023 18:09

@2marriages1love u OK hun?

wineNcheeseifYplease · 08/05/2023 20:26

It's not all your fault, but you are at fault.

Irritateandunreasonable · 08/05/2023 21:55

2marriages1love · 08/05/2023 14:33

Oh. So it’s all my fault.?!Don’t think so - do you really believe that men are so stupid they can be manipulated by their ex? Do you honestly think they are so stupid that they will be controlled by their previous partner who they really don’t want to be with?
get a grip. This is real life and we as both parents have taken a solid, balanced attitude and have made sure we have taken care of all children involved.
we have NOTHING to be ashamed of and all of you that find yourselves judging is through anger and vitriole need to take a good look at yourselves and your own life. Look at yourselves and your issues very carefully. It’s always hard to separate your own experiences and anger from your life experiences but are you really happy? If you are not then you need to look a little deeper into yourself and have some humility and def awareness.

I think the problem here is more about what you believe.

You’ve been well and truly mugged off.

Liorae · 08/05/2023 22:18

Irritateandunreasonable · 08/05/2023 21:55

I think the problem here is more about what you believe.

You’ve been well and truly mugged off.

And that's why you're crying for advice from strangers on a discussion board.

GiveOverRover · 09/05/2023 09:08

2marriages1love · 08/05/2023 14:33

Oh. So it’s all my fault.?!Don’t think so - do you really believe that men are so stupid they can be manipulated by their ex? Do you honestly think they are so stupid that they will be controlled by their previous partner who they really don’t want to be with?
get a grip. This is real life and we as both parents have taken a solid, balanced attitude and have made sure we have taken care of all children involved.
we have NOTHING to be ashamed of and all of you that find yourselves judging is through anger and vitriole need to take a good look at yourselves and your own life. Look at yourselves and your issues very carefully. It’s always hard to separate your own experiences and anger from your life experiences but are you really happy? If you are not then you need to look a little deeper into yourself and have some humility and def awareness.

To be fair, you initially said that any advice would be appreciated as to why your stepdaughter has disowned you.

You've had some takes on this, most of them in agreement that you're not fully comprehending the situation, or showing any sense of empathy for who were the children at the time when you and your lover were doing the Hokey Cokey with every cell of your being.

This is real life, yes. It's also the real life of your stepdaughter who is still showing you that she's got issues with you, yet you seem to be incapable of accepting that it's anything to do with your actions?

You didn't get the replies you were looking for here, but maybe you've answered your own question.

are you really happy? If you are not then you need to look a little deeper into yourself and have some humility and def awareness.

Darby3785 · 09/05/2023 12:32

Hi OP

The best advice I can give you from one step parent to another is to step back. Give your husband the freedom to have a relationship with his daughter away from you. Yes it hurts, yes it feels like a stab and it feels personal but being a step mum doesn't give you an automatic right to a relationship with your husbands kids. They already have a set of parents. Being kind to them, buying treats and making sure they are comfortable during their childhood doesn't make them owe you anything when they enter adulthood. Like with any relationship.

You do also need to see this from your SD's point of view to gain understanding which i think will help you a lot. You are the villain in their story whether you like it or not, if it wasn't for you, their parents would still be together - whether that's true or not nobody will ever know. She's disowned you due to her own issues.

If you try and stand in the way of a relationship between your husband and his daughter....it will be you who comes off as the bad guy not your husband. Your SD will find it hard to blame her Dad , your Dad is meant to be perfect, superman, no flaws yet her Dad has shown massive flaws - we are all human and we all make mistakes nobody has the right to judge anybody but she will find it easier to blame you as a root cause of the problems rather than the state of her parents relationship.

So just chill, enjoy your marriage and see if time heals...hopefully it will but if it doesn't OP you and your husband will need to find a way to navigate a way through this together.

mycoffeecup · 09/05/2023 12:32

TBH if my Dad left my Mum for another woman I wouldn't want anything to do with her, ever, and would make that clear as soon as I had the option to.

DeadButDelicious · 09/05/2023 13:43

She isn't required to like you. Or her father to be frank, he isn't exactly covering himself in glory here! How many times did he leave? Only to return home and then go again, how many times did that child have to witness that? Look, I'm not saying you are a bad person but you have to accept that you and her father caused severe disruption in her life and that will have taken its toll. This is the price you pay.

This isn't some epic romance, where love conquers all, you can't hide from the fact that for two children it's been a traumatic time where they have witnessed the messy break up of their parents relationship. That's reality.

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