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Grown up stepdaughter disowned me

146 replies

2marriages1love · 19/04/2023 14:45

Hi
12 yeas ago I met a man who was separating from his partner.
I had known him 26 years previously - we had a brief affair. We both had partners and I had two children.
cut a long story short, we were going to leave our partners but one of my boys has Cerebral Palsy and my Ex threatened to financially cut me off if I left him (he ran his own business)
so we stopped the affair and that was that. The man I had the affair with had told his partner and, naturally she was furious. I actually wrote her a letter apologising and explained my feelings. She blamed me 100%.
They went on to have two daughters.
i tried to leave my husband many times as I was so unhappy but he was coercive, controlling and had a level of passive aggression you could not fathom.
Bear with me.
I eventually left my husband who I will refer to as S.
The man I had the affair with found out - I will call him B.
B came looking for me and tried and tried to get me to meet with him as he and his partner had agreed to split.
i kept refusing - I guess I was scared of getting back into a relationship.
eventually I gave in, we met up and it was as though no time had passed and we fell straight back in love.
B’s daughters were 4 and 11 at the time. Mine were grown up.
B moved in with me. His Ex kept asking who his new partner was. He avoided telling her for a while but when she found out it was me she was apoplectic and decided she wanted him back. There was a lot of manipulation and he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit.
Meanwhile I had met his girls and we got on really well, particularly the older one. She could be a bit of a diva and was a little histrionic like her mother but she was clever, funny and came to our wedding when B and I married. She moved in with us and refused to speak to her mother for six months. No idea why.
Part of her drama was pretending to be afraid of dogs. I had one at the time and she got used to her and would walk her in the lead.
one day she decided to go back and live with her mother and sister (I had encouraged her continuously to try and keep contact - you only have one mum, blah blah)
B and I bought a brand new house together. My dog had got run over a couple of years previously, it was devastating. The girls continued to visit on weekends.
We decided to get a puppy and B sent pictures of it to his girls.
All Hell let loose. I began getting viscous texts from the older daughter which began with “well you got your new house and now you have a dog which is the cherry in the cake” she went on to bombard me with horrible messages stating that I knew she did not like dogs and basically she would never forgive me. Arguments went on between her and her father and for two years they did not speak until one day her mother phoned B and said she had enough of this division and that she felt they should reconcile. Reconcile they did. However I was still the bad guy and she would not speak to me for a further 9 years.
meanwhile, whilst living at home with a mother who supposedly hated dogs and with a supposed dog phobia that had caused such a massive rift, she bought herself a puppy.
Now this made me quite angry and I told B this.
However he continued as if nothing had happened (although he did agree that they had made themselves look rather stupid) and he and the girls met up regularly.
When B turned 50 I arranged a huge family get together with his family. I texted the elder daughter and asked if she would come. She replied she would come “purely for his sake”. Ok. The day went well but despite me trying to make conversation with her this daughter made Zero effort. She is now 21.
i have heard nothing since.
The crux of my issues with this is that I can’t stop being angry that B and his daughter carry on as if in parallel worlds. He has never pulled her up on the hypocrisy of getting a dog, her previous behaviour and how badly she treated me.
When she lived with us I completely went out of my way to support her, help her with homework, projects etc. Pick her up from school. Take her clothes shopping. She even started her period when she was estranged from her mother and I bought her a “happy grown up present” of some Gucci perfume and looked after her.
I want to know how to stop being angry - couple counselling helped a bit but I feel unsupported by B for playing happy families after the huge hurt she caused me.
He says I overreact- maybe I do?
I know he loves me to bits and I adore him but I just want this angry upset to go away.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Sorry for the long post but this was a quarter of a century in the making!

OP posts:
Bumblebeestiltskin · 20/04/2023 10:13

2marriages1love · 20/04/2023 09:14

Again, I did not split their family up. They had separated. I’m not sure why nobody is getting this - they had split - through her choice- she has her own partner - we got together a year after they split.
I am happy to acknowledge everything everyone is saying but he came looking for me. I ignored him for a year. She was happy for them to separate.

But you had an affair with her dad, behind her mum's back. Even though she wasn't even born, that's still likely to make her angry - can't you see that?

monsteramunch · 20/04/2023 10:20

The second time we met and got together, both he and his partner had separated and their relationship was OVER, by her choice. She asked him to get out and find a bedsit near to their home so he would be able to be available when required.

Missing out some key points from your first post though.

B moved in with me. His Ex kept asking who his new partner was. He avoided telling her for a while but when she found out it was me she was apoplectic and decided she wanted him back. There was a lot of manipulation and he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit.

I'm not surprised he's trying to make up for lost time with her now because he was a pretty rubbish father to have been doing that back and forth between you and his kids.

baileys6904 · 20/04/2023 10:20

"when she found out it was me she was apoplectic and decided she wanted him back. There was a lot of manipulation and he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit."

Sorry op, you said it right there. He was 'going back to her for the children'... If they were truly seperate as your update seems to imply, he wouldn't be going back to her, he'd just be splitting with you.

Maybe she can't deal with you whilst you absolving yourself off blame

FrippEnos · 20/04/2023 10:30

You are not the victim in this.
Take a step back and allow your partner to have a relationship with his daughter without you.
Invite her to things if appropriate but take a back seat.

Landndialamrhf · 20/04/2023 10:37

You, your DP and the childs mum handled every step of the way horrifically.
this is the result.

id be more concerned that I was with a man who can cheat on his wife and the mother of his children, go back and forth between us and then happily settle with me not being fully part of his family whilst I take the blame for some of his actions.

Boughtitdownthemarket · 20/04/2023 10:45

You've made a dog's dinner of her life - you and her father - why would you expect her to like you?

NCforthis123456 · 20/04/2023 11:00

Sorry but I don't think you really have any right to expect her to like or accept you..

LadyEloise1 · 20/04/2023 15:41

@2marriages1love
Just trying to clarify in my own head -
Did you have an affair with your partner while he was married to the mother of his children but before they were born ?
Have i read this correctly ?

YouveGotToGrooveIt · 20/04/2023 15:54

I don't believe anyone grows up through the situation you described, a happy and healthy person. Her father has made an absolute mess of her childhood, by the sounds of it.

All your posts seem (to me) to be filled with "this is what she DID and this is how I FEEL".

You may find it insightful to try to rephrase it - even in your own mind - along the lines of "this is what I DID and this is how she FEELS". I suspect she feels very uphappy and angry herself. You may find the answer to you own anger is to understand hers and see things from her POV.

Houselamp · 20/04/2023 16:16

2marriages1love · 20/04/2023 09:14

Again, I did not split their family up. They had separated. I’m not sure why nobody is getting this - they had split - through her choice- she has her own partner - we got together a year after they split.
I am happy to acknowledge everything everyone is saying but he came looking for me. I ignored him for a year. She was happy for them to separate.

@22marriages1love
"There was a lot of manipulation and he kept going back to her because of the children and then couldn’t bear to be without me so would move back in with me. This went on a bit.
Meanwhile I had met his girls and we got on really well"

This is the bit where you broke their family up, because he went back to her repeatedly.
If you hadn't been an option any of those times, he wouldn't have left again. I get they were already seperated by the second time you got together- but there were at least periods where they were a family again "because of the children" and then that stopped because he "couldn't bear to be without" you.

I'm not saying this is on you- it was his choice and he was the one messing his kids around by doing this, but for the daughters perspective- this is the main bit where you directly caused her family to break up. Especially as you were meeting the daughters at this time, so you are the one they were going to blame. That is how it seems from what you have written.

crazeekat · 20/04/2023 16:18

Forget the lot of it. Ur husband still has a relationship with her, let them do it between them but don't have her in your house. This is ur safe haven and no one should disrespect u in it. She is 21, an adult. She can grow up and stop being a spoilt brat or she can hold her grudge till the day she dies, either way, not ur problem anymore. Yes u are not blameless but u have been decent to her for years. Time for her to move on, enjoy her life and not bother about urs if she hates u so be it. Enjoy ur dogs!! X

2marriages1love · 22/04/2023 08:38

I have been really humbled by the responses that I have got on here - good and bad.
i know I’m not a nasty person and would do anything for anyone but perhaps that is why I let things hurt me so much.
i have come to realise that I have an amazing life with the man that absolutely loves me unconditionally no matter what.
i would be willing to fix any problems but you can’t fix what don’t wanna be fixed.
At the end of the day, I am lucky
We are both where we want to be , my children absolutely adore my children and I cannot be held responsible for his ex, her demons and issues and how she has chosen to continue her life.
We love each other with every cell I our bodies. That can never change? Unfortunately!

OP posts:
Pashy · 22/04/2023 09:17

2marriages1love · 22/04/2023 08:38

I have been really humbled by the responses that I have got on here - good and bad.
i know I’m not a nasty person and would do anything for anyone but perhaps that is why I let things hurt me so much.
i have come to realise that I have an amazing life with the man that absolutely loves me unconditionally no matter what.
i would be willing to fix any problems but you can’t fix what don’t wanna be fixed.
At the end of the day, I am lucky
We are both where we want to be , my children absolutely adore my children and I cannot be held responsible for his ex, her demons and issues and how she has chosen to continue her life.
We love each other with every cell I our bodies. That can never change? Unfortunately!

Cringe.

Honestly OP, if telling yourself that you’d do anything for anyone and are one of these people who just care soooo deeply gets you through your day, go for it.

The reality is that someone (well, probably at least two people) hates you because of your actions. Perception is reality- you say you’re not nasty but that’s not what the daughter (and ex) have experienced through you choosing to involving yourself in their lives.

Lavenderlaze · 22/04/2023 09:44

That seems to be a strange takeaway from the responses tbh. It looked like you might have been listening but clearly not.

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 22/04/2023 09:48

You're not a nasty person yet you spilt up a family and a marriage. Lol.

Landndialamrhf · 22/04/2023 13:14

If this is how you handle feedback it’s not a wonder she can’t be arsed trying to talk to you

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 22/04/2023 13:19

i know I’m not a nasty person and would do anything for anyone but perhaps that is why I let things hurt me so much.

Such a good person you helped to break up a family. Aren't you just lovely?

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/04/2023 18:18

i know I’m not a nasty person and would do anything for anyone but perhaps that is why I let things hurt me so much.

Every time he went back, and then left her again to go to you, their hearts were broken. If you didn't allow it, it wouldn't have happened. You can paint yourself as the star-crossed lover caring empath if you'd like. People who say this are frequently narcissists.

You broke up a family over and over and over 'for a bit'. Nice people don't do that.

DartmoorWild · 22/04/2023 18:34

2marriages1love · 22/04/2023 08:38

I have been really humbled by the responses that I have got on here - good and bad.
i know I’m not a nasty person and would do anything for anyone but perhaps that is why I let things hurt me so much.
i have come to realise that I have an amazing life with the man that absolutely loves me unconditionally no matter what.
i would be willing to fix any problems but you can’t fix what don’t wanna be fixed.
At the end of the day, I am lucky
We are both where we want to be , my children absolutely adore my children and I cannot be held responsible for his ex, her demons and issues and how she has chosen to continue her life.
We love each other with every cell I our bodies. That can never change? Unfortunately!

Your response actually made me feel a bit sad for you. It has the feel of someone who is insecure trying to convince themselves that everything is okay.

It's not okay because someone your husband loves with every cell in his body and just as much as you is probably hurting very much deep down. That will not sit well with him deep down.

Liorae · 22/04/2023 18:45

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/04/2023 18:18

i know I’m not a nasty person and would do anything for anyone but perhaps that is why I let things hurt me so much.

Every time he went back, and then left her again to go to you, their hearts were broken. If you didn't allow it, it wouldn't have happened. You can paint yourself as the star-crossed lover caring empath if you'd like. People who say this are frequently narcissists.

You broke up a family over and over and over 'for a bit'. Nice people don't do that.

Every time he went back, and then left her again to go to you, their hearts were broken. If you didn't allow it, it wouldn't have happened.
If he didn't do it it wouldn't have happened. The married person.

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/04/2023 18:48

Don’t get me wrong @Liorae he’s an arsehole too. And massively more to blame in every way, particularly the harm to his children.

But OP doesn't get to pretend she’s a selfless, empathetic, sweet-natured victim in all this. She chose this too.

monsteramunch · 22/04/2023 20:18

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/04/2023 18:48

Don’t get me wrong @Liorae he’s an arsehole too. And massively more to blame in every way, particularly the harm to his children.

But OP doesn't get to pretend she’s a selfless, empathetic, sweet-natured victim in all this. She chose this too.

I agree, they both behaved horribly.

I can't fathom being attracted to a man repeatedly going back and forth between you and his children. Hurting them every single time he did it. What a wanker. Such shit parenting.

Delphinium20 · 22/04/2023 20:29

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/04/2023 15:30

You helped a girl for a short time who was probably only there because she felt abandoned (repeatedly) by her father and therefore wanted to be near him, even though he (and you) was the issue. She blamed her mother and didn't speak to her for 6 months because her mother was safe to do this to. Her father wasn't because he kept leaving and coming back.

This small amount of entry level 'parenting' you think entitles you to forget ruining her life.

Seek family therapy to understand how she feels. You need an empathy chip installed. Yours has malfunctioned.

Agree.

Liorae · 22/04/2023 20:35

Delphinium20 · 22/04/2023 20:29

Agree.

Disagree. Her parents responsibility 100%. No get out of jail free for either.

baileys6904 · 22/04/2023 20:49

Op you still don't seem to be taking any responsibility in this. Perhaps once you do, and have empathy with the family, you might be able to start mending