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Do I deserve to be validated

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YeahWellWhoKnew · 16/04/2023 09:21

We've been married 2 years. My last marriage ended very quickly and unexpectedly. My ex wife told me she was gay and left me and the kids and moved in with her partner. Years later we're obviously divorced and share equal 50/50 care of the kids. I'll admit I'm bitter. I funded my ex wife's education and life, as soon as she qualified she left. I've never recovered financially and yet she lives the life or Reilly with her partner a geeat job, off on three holidays a year and to be honest, I hate her.

My new wife knows all this. She is so laid back and loving. I trust her 100%, first person in years. She gives me no signs to mistrust her and our relationship is great.

I admit I'm jealous. I try really hard with this and have been in therapy for PTSD (Military related) but this therapy has helped me overall. I hate being this way and my wife knows how I am. She's not a jealous person in the slightest so don't think she really gets it.

She had, let's say, an active sex life over the years. Allthough I hate the thought of that, I work really hard in myself not to let it effect me. I'm a serious overthinker but again try not to let her past bother me (because I know she did nothing wrong) and I don't make her feel bad about it either. Why should I, we didn't know each other and she was single.

All I ask of her is that she doesn't go into detail of her past because I know I'll dwell on things or overthink. I don't want to hear about exes or where they went etc. Now I know many of you will say we all have a past, we do, she did nothing wrong etc etc. I know all this but I can't help how my brain works.

I try to tell my wife how some of her comments dig into me, for example on honeymoon she said let's go have sex in the sea, I say OK and off we go. I stop and she says not here, it doesn't work here we need to go in more, stand up, I'll do this etc etc. I respond with how do you know, and she looks at me in silence. My response was well you've obviously done this before and it put me off so we left.

If the boot waa on the other foot that wouldn't bother her in the slightest. She'd probably laugh and say did it work back then.

I wish i was like that. All I want it for her to validate how I feel and to acknowledge we're different. I have other examples but won't list them all because I know I'll be told I'm being ridiculous and I probably agree.

I don't know if it's even possible to change. I really wish I could but I also wish she acknowledged who I am an give a little more support in it by leaving the past where it belongs and not refer to it

OP posts:
ThisNameIsNotAvailable · 16/04/2023 18:59

Opentooffers · 16/04/2023 18:42

Tbh nobody wants to hear where their significant other has been or done in the past with x, y & z. Given that your DW knows how you feel, it wasn't wise of her to suggest a fun sex activity and then make it so obvious that she'd done it all before. It's a tad cringe and really it's better to be original with suggestions than repeat.
Difficult to know if you are overly jealous or reacting to a bad case of mentionitis by your DW. It's actually bad form to bring up what you've done.

Huge sweeping statement - literally couldn’t care less what DH has done in the past and with who and I’m pretty sure he feels the same.

YeahWellWhoKnew · 16/04/2023 19:07

monsteramunch · 16/04/2023 18:54

I wish absolutely nothing bothered me and my wife and I could laughed joke about exes or experiences.

OP can you identify what it is you feel if you're reminded she has a past before knowing you?

This was the example you assumed most people would also have an issue with:

So you would be ok if he said oh I love this restaurant I've eaten here loads and you knew it was with his ex?

Can you explain what exactly it would make you feel? Is it just the reminder that she's had sex / relationships with people before you? And if so why does that reminder hurt you when you've also had sex / relationships (and marriage and kids!) with people before her?

This isn't me being snarky, I'm genuinely trying to get to grips with why something like that example would bother you.

It's all of it. She once said to me I spent two years shagging about, that eats me up to this day. The thought of the person I love living life like that. It's the disappointment we met so later in life. That I didn't get to experience a lot of the things with her she talks so happily about

I need to say again...I know this is ridiculous. I know we both had lives beforehand I know it's not her fault. I know all of this.

I just want to stop feeling this ridiculous way and not have her tiptoe around

I'm not choosing to be an overthinker and have this anxiety

OP posts:
YeahWellWhoKnew · 16/04/2023 19:08

ThisNameIsNotAvailable · 16/04/2023 18:59

Huge sweeping statement - literally couldn’t care less what DH has done in the past and with who and I’m pretty sure he feels the same.

Really happy you can live like that. Doesn't mean you need to be so disrespectful about those who do.

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MyStarBoy · 16/04/2023 19:09

YADNBU

In my view, she should respect your feelings and take them into account.

If my DH kept bringing up scenarios with his exes it would really piss me off. You obviously care about her a lot, so you don't get pissed off but you are obviously very hurt.

With respect to your wife, she needs to stop, think and engage her brain.

Is she generally tactless with other people as well?

Perhaps she gets a kick out of hurting/making you jealous because it makes her feel secure and wanted, but at your expense.

monsteramunch · 16/04/2023 19:15

It's all of it. She once said to me I spent two years shagging about, that eats me up to this day.

Gently OP if a comment like that is eating you up to this day, you aren't in the right headspace for this relationship or another one until you've worked on this internally.

I really don't think you can have a healthy, happy relationship until you do so.

It's the disappointment we met so later in life.

If you'd met earlier you wouldn't have had your children. Can you try that for perspective? They wouldn't exist. You adore them I'm sure. Meeting her later was for the best otherwise you wouldn't be their dad.

That I didn't get to experience a lot of the things with her she talks so happily about

You say you love her. Reframe this. Someone you love feels and talks happily about her past. That's a good thing! She hasn't had a tortured, sad existence, she's had fun and lived by her own rules. She has closed one chapter and is now choosing to be in a relationship with you as the previous phase of her life is over.

You seem upset that she has positive memories that don't involve you. That's an incredibly unsettling thing to hear and something again to address in therapy.

You urgently need some counselling specific to this issue if you aren't willing to end the relationship to work on yourself.

YeahWellWhoKnew · 16/04/2023 19:25

Thanks to you all for inputing and those who offered constructive criticism and support. It's certainly helped me put sone things into perspective.

Goodnight all

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CombatBarbie · 16/04/2023 19:32

YeahWellWhoKnew · 16/04/2023 18:25

That's my point. Of course it's OK to go, but there is no need to say anything about any experience with an ex

But your assuming anything she suggests has a direct link to her ex. It could be a restaurant she went to with a friend, her parents etc.... You are catastrophising everything.

Like I said before, make your choice. Let the ptsd control you or take control of it! Your demons are in the past, do not allow them to control your future.

ThisNameIsNotAvailable · 16/04/2023 19:43

YeahWellWhoKnew · 16/04/2023 19:08

Really happy you can live like that. Doesn't mean you need to be so disrespectful about those who do.

Reread my message. It’s not remotely disrespectful to anyone.

Choconut · 16/04/2023 20:33

I think you have to think about it like this, is she using her past to deliberately make you feel insecure and not good enough or is she just using her past experience to inform her future.

If she was saying 'oh I had the most amazing sex in the sea with my ex, he was so great, we were always having sex in cool and interesting places' then it would be understandable that you might not really appreciate that, but her saying 'sex in the sea really only works standing up' and just using her experience to inform her behaviour is just normal and natural. Pretending she'd never had sex in the sea and had no idea what to do would just be odd and fake wouldn't it?

I'd concentrate on the fact that all that practice has made her into a confident, fantastic lover that is now just for you!

Xarrie · 16/04/2023 22:02

It's retroactive jealousy. CBT is supposed to be the best chance of a cure.

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