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porn and internet dating

144 replies

scaredwife · 14/02/2008 21:14

Have just found out that dh has been looking at porn for god knows how long. Ok that is one thing. What is worse is that there are internet dating sites on the files in his browsing history and some of them are recent. He denies this vehemently, saying that these porn sites cause these other sites to appear on the history. Obviously I am dubious - particularly as payment for one of them is on his credit card statement. He looked completely stunned when I asked him about it. I have to say, I would give him an oscar if he is lying. I don't know what to think tbh.

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scaredwife · 16/02/2008 00:44

ladies, you are really outstanding. I am in utter gratitude. I asked a friend tonight whether she thinks I am a minger - she said no - I am beautiful. I think she meant it, but I don't feel it.

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scaredwife · 16/02/2008 00:45

Sorry - I am pissed.

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ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 00:55

did you go has it been a shit night

DrLurker · 16/02/2008 01:02

really sorry about this scaredwife, you clearly deserve better

and I would bet any money you're not a 'minger'- this is nothing to do with you, it is his problem.

He has probably got caught up in fantasy and the excitement of deception and being 'naughty'. I think that is sadly really common.

scaredwife · 16/02/2008 07:58

I think you are right lurker. The night was difficult to say the least. Harder knowing I might not see them much more as they are dh's friends iyswim. These two are the only combined friends on dh's side. The rest are all mine. Lucky me.

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scaredwife · 16/02/2008 09:03

Well I actually did hit him. Had a few drinks which probably brought out a nastier side of me. Clumped him around the head while we were in bed. I phoned her this morning (on his phone as she was ignoring my calls - surprisingly)and do you know she had the cheek to say she doesn't want to continue this conversation as she's personally moved on. I told her that was nice, but I would also like to move on and to do that I need to know details such as when they last had sex. Can't remember - she said. I said, c'mon you must know.........roughly when.........a ball park figure. 4 weeks ago she finally told me. 4 fucking weeks ago. He told me it had finished last September. Basically, it was still going on. I hate him. I don't know who this person is I that I happen to have spent most of my life with. God I wish I could wake up and realise this was all a terrible nightmare.

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ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 09:07

have you any thoughts on what to do next

scaredwife · 16/02/2008 09:26

Yep plenty. Been checking out divorce websites and rental properties. Can't afford to rent, but might be able to get shared ownership or something like that.

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scaredwife · 16/02/2008 09:28

Oh and he was finally honest about something - told me that he has sex with her less than 2 weeks ago. So she was lying as well.

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VictorianSqualor · 16/02/2008 09:58

Ugh, how horrid, doesn't rain but it pours.
I feel for you, I really do.
I hope you can move on and be happy, you deserve more than this.

ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 10:01

so in fact it was continuing and they have been found out and he was even a coward up to the last

you don't want to try and rescue things?

do you want him to move out for a while

ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 10:03

or him move out permanently

i think it should be the one who is in the wrong who moves out in the first instance

VictorianSqualor · 16/02/2008 10:08

I agree with Zippi, I assume DS will be atying with you? Why should you two be uprooted because he can't keep his trousers on?
If he has any decency left he'll go and leave you in the house.

ZippiBabes · 16/02/2008 10:15

why doesn't he go to a mates or b and b as a temproary measure and you meet up to decide the future

do you really want things to finish or time to think

stuffitllama · 16/02/2008 10:17

I'm so for your betrayal, have just read this whole thread. I don't want to fling insults at him after what you said earlier but am inclined to. Zippi's right, he should move out, not you and your children. Is changing the locks too drastic.

stuffitllama · 16/02/2008 10:18

I meant to say, your child. How could he do this during your terrible times last year.

scaredwife · 16/02/2008 11:42

Good question. I asked him the same thing. Oh and yesterday he told me he wanted to tell me about it but there was never a right time I accused him of lying. He pointedly denied it, saying it was over. Now I know it was still going on. She's a liar as well - she said she didn't know I was pregnant (when they shagged at the hotel)but he said she did.

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scaredwife · 16/02/2008 11:43

I just paid £200 to get my rings adjusted (wedding and engagement) and one of them needed a new claw. What a waste of money.

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scaredwife · 16/02/2008 13:17

Everyone thinks he is such a wonderful person. If only they knew.

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WiiMii · 16/02/2008 13:58

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scaredwife · 17/02/2008 11:19

I'm in a living hell right now. I can't eat, can't sleep, have a painful lump in my throat. I feel sick but can't vomit as there is nothing there to come up. I've got a permanent headache. The worst thing is that every time I look at ds I see him - I can hardly bear to look at him I am in a total mess. I'm supposed to be working today but obviously can't. I feel like handing in my notice but the mortgage needs to be paid. I can see myself going on ADs - after struggling without them throughout all of last year's trauma.

He admits he has a problem with porn. Finally getting some truth out of him. He did join the dating site (friendfinder) so he could have sex chat with real women as opposed to looking at porn stars. He said he never met any of them, but then he probably would've struggled to - given that he was knocking off the work colleague (he wasn't going out that regularly iyswim). Also found out he has been to a lapdancing club (yeuch)

He wants to get help and is desperately trying to make amends. How do you make amends for this kind of betrayal. Someone said earlier I must be pretty marvelous to be able to go out after finding out such info, well yes I actually think I am a very brave person and I have a lot of dignity. However, I don't know how this disaster can be repaired.

He reckons he can change (this perversion has developed over the past 1-2 years)and go back to being the amazing man I met/married I believe he wants to but is that enough? He has deleted everything from the computer, kindly leaving me the hotel itinerary in case I want it as evidence eg for divorce. He is willing to get counselling , change job and go for STD investigations (though he promises they used condoms). It makes me sick to think that he could've impregnated me (we had sex recently during my fertile period). At the same time I am mourning not being able to try for another. It's what I've wanted for so long. I feel gutted for me and for ds - who would love a sibling. I can't stop crying. I look awful. Red, puffy eyes and a snotty nose. We had so much to look forward to, e.g. ds starting school this year, maybe a pregnancy, a family holiday to the caribbean next year. All that is so elusive now. I've called him a few choice words (including one that I never use). I asked him to leave, but he won't. He is scared that it will make it final - plus there is the awkwardness of his family finding out that he is not quite the Mr Wonderful they thought he was.

I wish I could wake up from this awful awful nightmare. I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for your supportive words. I'm also sorry for those of you who have been through similar (re.the porn discovery). I have to hope that I will not always feel the way I do now and that eventually things will get better. That day seems so far away right now.

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ZippiBabes · 17/02/2008 11:23

after the initial adrenalin yiou are now faced with the reality and the exhaustion

i dont know what to say

i am sure others will be more helpful

if you want him to go then i thin k you should ask him to even if it is temproary

scaredwife · 17/02/2008 13:34

Yes. He said he will give me breathing space (how kind of him) but I can't while he is here.

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evertheoptimist · 17/02/2008 13:58

I am hardly qualified to comment as I am having problems myself but maybe if he is actually willing to admit guilt and to go to counselling, maybe you should give him a chance? Sometimes people do things like he did because they are not happy about some other 'buried' part of their lives - maybe the counselling would help you to communicate with each other without descending into a row. Maybe if you still feel things aren't working after that, then call it a day, but at least you will have tried your hardest. Big virtual cuddles for you whatever you decide x

DualCycloneCod · 17/02/2008 14:01

ohg od the non appettie thign soudsn like a rl mate of mine had
she lost loads of weight