Do they teach children at school about bad people and how to spot them and how to protect themselves? If not shouldn’t they?

[Justwondering3]

Im just wondering as I have small children.

I was not taught this by my parents and got myself in all sorts of mess. Does anything happen at school to prepare our children for the big world in case the parents are not able to for whatever reason? Like myself I was highly academically educated but I was emotionally extremely immature.

Yes it’s up to us as parents to do this but some genuinely can’t.

Slightly un related but a girl in my daughters class has just had 10 baby teeth out because her parents gave her fizzy drinks. The parents for whatever reason have not protected this child but she is the one who suffers.

How do you “spot bad people”

Slightly un related but a girl in my daughters class has just had 10 baby teeth out because her parents gave her fizzy drinks. The parents for whatever reason have not protected this child but she is the one who suffers.

”slightly” unrelated? 😂

I dread to think what third parties might get drafted in to schools to help children spot the bad people.

Yeah I meant that not educating the child means the child suffers in the long run.

Perhaps not worded correctly but I’m trying to say do they teach about boundaries and that some people will try and cross them, how to spot that etc??

I feel like it's our job as parents to do this.
I'm currently teaching my 17 year old about bad people by watching Married at First Sight Australia together.

As Part of the curriculum they cover feelings and relationships at an age appropriate level and then as teens it develops including abuse and healthy relationships . I’d ask school if you want more details.

I’m using the terms good and bad as I’m talking about young children, it’s easy to understand for them.

Yes @corlan it is our job but what about those who don’t have have those parents, they will suffer.

I know Rape Crisis have done outreach work in schools but I don't know if it's a regular thing or any other when or where details.

You can't really define 'bad people.' With most of the children who are abused, it turns out to be a family member. It's very tricky.

This is a parent’s job really. Schools do the reading and writing.

However, yes, our pshe curriculum covers consent, unwanted & unsafe touch, stranger danger, boundaries etc etc. and of course with a class of 30 children we are forever teaching them how to be together, to be respectful of each other and to belong in a group.

Schools can’t do it all though. I’m definitely not taking responsibility for the teeth!

I don't know how a teacher could teach what you're suggesting without landing themselves in a pretty big hot steaming pile of excrement. What is a 'bad' person.

In so far as teaching about boundaries, 'no means no' as part of wider sex education perhaps but everything else is down to parents and most importantly life experience.

We watched Chitty Chitty Bang Bang recently and it did open up some interesting conversations with my 3 and 5 year old about who you can trust after they were horrified by the child catcher!

I think it'll be up to you to do that by your actions and words.

Most bad men are either related or someone close by, friend, neighbor, teacher, etc.

Age gaps. It's not unusual for men in their late teens, 20s or older to coming sniffing around teen girls.

Children are more at risk with parents and step parents and other family than they are with 'baddies'

There is so many hours in the day schools can take over parents responsibilities

I’m just curious really rather then blaming. Do they teach children about parenting at all or are they too young for that?

Yes schools do talk about ways to keep yourself safe but really it needs to be reinforced by parents. Schools just don't have the time to give it the focus that it needs.
As a part of our PSHE and SRE curriculum we do lots on the difference between secrets and surprises, bodily autonomy and good and bad touch.
We talk about thr pants rule, what to do if someone makes you feel uncomfortable and who you trust to talk to about it.
We also use the correct terminology to talk about body parts so that children can be clear when they are talking about something that may have worried them.
Online safety is also a big part of the computing curriculum and covers aspects of this.

But there is an increasing demand on schools to take on things that should be taught by parents which puts such a squeeze on it he job that we are actually meant to do. I have toilet trained countless reception age children where there is no SEN, I brush their teeth with them daily and I regularly teach the very basics of using cutlery.
There seems to be more and more that I am expected to fit in, at the expense of progress in reading, writing and maths.

Parenting?!

Do you suggest we stop teaching the maths, reading, writing, other academic subjects to fit that in?? Schools can’t do it all!

That's good for you but OP is talking about children who have adults in their life that are not teaching their young children about this.

Yes I agree that in theory it is the role of a parent. But if a parent is met interested/isn't willing/isn't equipped to educate their dc in this way do we just accept it and leave the children to (potentially) be exposed to this behaviour and then probably repeat the cycle with their own dc?

My ds is year 1 and so far they have had someone in from the NSPCC where they learnt the pantosaurus song and spoke about their body belonging to them and talking to people if they're worried and they had someone in speaking about keeping safe online, not talking to strangers or sharing personal info online etc. is that the sort of thing you mean? I think they regularly speak about topics like this in PSHE but obviously they need to be age appropriate and not terrify them.

This really is up to the parents.
And sadly if the parents are not modeling this no amount of school teaching can replace it.
School can provide ways for children to report issues that are happening to them.
Also I do think that it’s a natural self learning process as you grow older. Some are better at it than others.

Perhaps that’s what wrong with society, it’s each for their own and we turn away to those who really need the help.

It's the parents job, and this really is the problem with crappy parents because schools, couldn't and shouldn't be teaching basic life skills

Schools do teach basic life skills.

@Phoebo they are not all crappy parents, they could be parenting the way it was modelled to them, how do they know any different if no one showed them. Is it up to their children to learn hard lessons because of that.