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I just can't cope with my husband's crazy making, contempt, and cruelty anymore

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Wildfloral · 26/02/2023 02:59

My husband and I had a fight because I woke him up last night asking him to change positions, so he'd stop snoring.

My husband snores like a monstrous beast crossed with a gravelly, raspberry-blowing, vibrating truck. But because he need his sleep for work, I don't disturb him on weekdays. I wear earplugs or leave him on the sofa if he falls asleep there for a night of good sleep.

Last night, being Friday night, I decided to tell him to stop snoring ("please for the love of god, stop!") as I'd been awake for nearly two hours trying not to murder him and then realised I can wake him and get him to change pillows/move/rearrange/unswallow his tongue as it wasn't a work night.

He reacted really badly, telling me to stop waking him up, that it wasn't fair, that he wasn't snoring, wasn't even asleep, and things like - why should I care as I was on my phone (I usually wait for him to settle down so I can fall asleep in that brief period of silence, but I have to make sure he's gonna be silent for at least twenty minutes first, It's a hard game to play), he told me I should just go to sleep, then after spouting off he said do I want him to go to the sofa ?.... yes I did, but I don't like to tell him to leave the bed... it would be nice for him to just believe me when I say his snoring is LOUD and for him to want to do something about it.

Here's the kicker.
I am EXHAUSTED. I have huge dark circles and I woke up at 12pm and was falling asleep at the table at 8pm. I am so tired because we are trying for a baby, and my hormones have made me this tired. It is 9DPO, it might be implantation. He knew this, and still didn't care that I couldn't sleep.

He was really angry. He jumped up and made a huge deal of getting a blanket (which is already on the sofa) tuning the lights on, stomping round, and then real rey started to go at me saying things like I'm stupid retarded, I'm ignorant, endless insults. I'm just lying there waiting for him to stop and leave the room.... he always says nasty things to hurt me in a fight.

I said back to him 'why did you marry me then, if you think I'm stupid?'... he started saying other mean stuff, but I can't remember. I was covering my eyes from the light and trying not to get mad... because I am trying to get pregnant and want to be healthy and happy right now, but I ended up yelling loudly as he was going off on nasty tangents: 'this is not about my intelligence this is about your snoring, you have a medical problem and it needs to get fixed, you need to go to the doctor otherwise we won't be able to share a room and you should care about me and whether I can sleep!!!'

I just can't believe he thinks he was wronged because I woke him up.

So he left, I fell asleep an hour later cos I was so hurt by the things he said, and got woken up really early to him obnoxiously on purpose making loads of noise to disturb me. I quickly took my BBT temperature and he left the house without saying goodbye. He left to do extra work about 9am.

All day long I hear nothing from him. In the morning I thought he just needed to cool off, by the afternoon I was thinking he was giving me the silent treatment, but by 9pm I was crying over my food over this.

Then he came home at 11pm. I came out from the kitchen to see him. He had a bunch of flowers almost bigger than me, it was sooooo huge in pale pinks and white the colours I love. I am not a crying kind of woman but I started to cry. I had been prepping myself all day on how to confront him and set boundaries regarding insults and name calling, and there he was with a big bunch of flowers about to apologise. I said the flowers were beautiful and then he said "can you guess they are fake flowers? I thought they would look nice in the house". They were fake but looked so real and I was just blown away by them and the gesture. Then I asked where he'd been all day etcetera, and he gave me a hug and said he'd place the flowers down for me because they were heavy.

Then we walked into the kitchen. It was at this point I paused and realised he hadn't actually apologised at all. My heart started racing wildy, maybe the hormones were affecting my heart? But anyway, I asked him what the flowers were for and he just repeated that he thought they were nice and would look good I'm the house.

My heart started pounding so badly I thought he could hear it racing. It felt like I was having a heart attack. I wanted to leave the room. I couldn't believe he'd be so callous. I asked him again, 'I thought that you were going to say something with these flowers, that you got them for me, that's why I stopped in my tracks and started crying'.
He said, 'no I don't have anything to apologise for' and 'I don't want to talk about anything tonight'..etcetera ...My heart nearly jumped out of my chest with the panic.

I'd spent all day being given the silent treatment, waiting at home not sure where he was, after he said some of the most horrid things to me (again) when I might well be pregnant (soon), only to have this trick played on me with a giant bouquet of flowers, all because I woke him up snoring and told him he needs to get it sorted, and having to shout this at him as he was escalting this and losing the plot over it (he can never stay on topic in a dispute).

My heart was racing wildly for the second time in under twenty minutes, whilst I tried to comprehend what was going on. It was like shock, a panic attack, a heart attack all in one. I clutched at it and gasped. I nearly fell. What the hell? Isn't that the cruellest thing he could do? He could have fixed it with a few words, but instead, the flowers were either a mean joke, or a coincidence that he hadn't thought through.

I told him I don't want him swearing at me, calling me names because it hurts me, it makes me feel small and little and asked why he does it. He wouldn't give me any answer... then he just walked off to sleep on the sofa and left me hanging there. I couldn't help it. I had to talk to him, I followed him in there we had a brief argument rehashing this bloody stupid argument form last night - where I realised he didn't even remember what happened last night or was trying to gaslight me, as he kept saying things that didn't happen, and out of order. I feel like I am going mad.

I told him I don't want his bouquet without an apology and threw the giant thing in the front garden. I told him if he doesn't fix these three things..1, 2 and 3. I want to separate, that I can't cope with the insanity of having my self-esteem whittled away by verbal abuse. I know I shouldn't have - Ultimatums go against my beliefs. I do not swear, I do not name call and I do not say anything in an argument below the belt. I feel awful for doing this. And I'm panicking as I have to commit to it now.

I just feel like he has ruined everything. He ruined our weekend. He ruined my TWW. He possibly ruined how I feel about my early pregnancy. I feel like this is just the icing on the cake for his cruelty. He does not respect me, he thinks I'm stupid but he was trying for a baby with me one week ago??! He has so much contempt for me and I think it must stem from shame for how he treats me.

I feel like my world is falways apart. I can't take the abuse anymore. I am SO FED UP. It's constant. He always says he'll stop, then three weeks later he's calling me names again, emotionallwly abusing me somehow, leaving me constantly on the defensive and eggshells. He always denies he has ever hurt me. I have no where to go. And I just can't take it anymore.

Sorry this probably makes no sense. It would be easier in person to express the whole story.

OP posts:
Step99 · 26/02/2023 07:41

You need to leave now before there's a baby. It will NOT get better. You will be more sleep deprived and he will get more cruel.
Also, when you divorce, he will make your life hell and will try to keep the kids, whilst playing these same manipulative mind games with the poor child.
I know this from experience. It will get more ugly with children involved, and thats when you are both (you and baby) truly vulnerable.

IWineAndDontDine · 26/02/2023 07:42

Why do you want to have a baby with someone who treats you like that?

But on a side note. If you kept waking me up, disturbing my sleep, leaving me exhausted in the morning, because you didn't like my snoring telling ME to go to the sofa, when you could have gone to the sofa yourself. Lord. I'd think you were a selfish entitled dick. You aren't a delicate woman that must sleep in a double bed. You can leave the bed too.

Saying that, nothing justifies his treatment of you.

ginandlemonade23 · 26/02/2023 07:43

It's up to you if you want to stay with us this horrible man but you to bring a baby into this is hugely irresponsible

Purplecatshopaholic · 26/02/2023 07:50

Jeezo. Why are you wanting to have an innocent child with this abusive individual? Do Not have a child with this man. You have a choice to stay or go (and I strongly suggest you go), they don’t.

PrinnyPree · 26/02/2023 07:51

It sounds like the reason you want a baby is to fix things or have someone to love, do not purposefully have a baby in an abusive relationship, that is beyond cruel for the baby. Especially if you won't leave your abuser no matter what.

Please OP leave, there is no fixing this and it will get so much worse with a baby in the mix. Continue trying to get help through womens aid and any DA resources, as others have said don't start trying to conceive because you didn't like the hostel you were offered. Get back on the pill and try to get your ducks in a row with a plan to leave on your own terms if you can. Are you working full time? Could you afford a house share? Are you entitled to any benefits if you left? Xx

piedbeauty · 26/02/2023 07:53

God. LTB. And please stop TTC with him. What are you thinking??? This is no atmosphere for a poor baby to be born into.

Raise your standard and stop accepting such shit behaviour.

meringue33 · 26/02/2023 07:55

My best friend stayed with an abuser as she desperately wanted a baby. The abuse escalated and he killed her. None of us saw it coming. Her baby is raised by family now. Please please leave while you still can. Ask police and Womens Aid for help. I have three other friends who experienced domestic abuse and fled to a refuge. They are all still alive now.

gettingalifttothestation · 26/02/2023 07:55

Is this some kind of novel you are writing. If it's real I do hope you arnt pregnant. I don't think it's fair to bring a baby into this relationship it will be as miserable as both of you

piedbeauty · 26/02/2023 07:55

I get that you want a baby and a perfect family life. But you will never have that with this man. He's not the man you want him to be.

Ring Women's Aid. They will be able to help.

ShimmeringShirts · 26/02/2023 07:55

Hmm

Mumsanetta · 26/02/2023 07:56

Your heart was racing like that because it was getting ready for you to run for your life. He treats you with contempt because he knows he can and you will stay because you’re desperate for a family and won’t leave him to stay in a hostel - you said this in your post and he knows it.

You may not be ready to leave but please please please do not have a baby with this man. Your DH will not change and, if anything, will get worse. Think about your perfect little girl or boy and how much you will love them, it’s more than you can possibly express. Now imagine their little heart starting to race when they hear your DH put his key in the door. Please don’t do this to them.

Itsnotfun · 26/02/2023 07:59

Wildfloral · 26/02/2023 03:15

Because he has flaws like all humans (and me) and I guess I'm kinda used to it now used to name calling. When he's good, he's very very good and when he's bad he regresses to shit.

DISGRACEFUL trying to have a baby with someone like this. A poor innocent child who will have someone like you with no boundaries for a mother and a father who is nasty. Fingers crossed it’s a negative @Wildfloral

SuperSange · 26/02/2023 08:02

Awful. Of him for behaving like this, almost worse for you to be wanting to bring a baby into this. Have a baby on your own. Buy sperm. Anything but with him. That poor child.

BellePeppa · 26/02/2023 08:02

What a lucky future baby to have this as their family dynamic. Is this the family life you want for a child? Prove your horrible husband wrong by NOT doing something as stupid as bringing a baby in to this horrible home.

ShimmeringShirts · 26/02/2023 08:02

You realise social services can and will remove your child if you stay with an abusive partner right? I hope you’re factoring that in to your pregnancy plans, might not be allowed to take your baby home from the hospital if you’re still with him.

PortiasBiscuit · 26/02/2023 08:07

Are we sure this is real? The language is very considered?

LoekMa · 26/02/2023 08:07

Wildfloral · 26/02/2023 03:38

That's so considerate. That's what I would do if it we me snoring. The snoring was not really the cause of the fight, just the reason he lost his temper. But what really kills me inside is the verbal abuse, the belittling and downgrading and minimising.

This potential baby is all my dreams. All I've ever wanted was to have a house and family. I don't think I could live without getting to have this.

This potential baby is all my dreams. All I've ever wanted was to have a house and family. I don't think I could live without getting to have this.

well atleast you're honest enough with yourself OP. You clearly see that fulfilling YOUR dreams will come at a great cost to whatever child you put into this situation, but hey - as long as you get what you wanted, caution be damned.

BeExcellent2EachOther · 26/02/2023 08:10

Do not bring a baby into this relationship, please.

AuContraire · 26/02/2023 08:11

He sounds abusive (so you should leave) , and you sound incredibly dramatic. Being this tired because you're ttc is not normal, and the panic attacks and heart racing - how would you cope if you had an actual baby and didn't get more than 2 hours sleep at a time for 6 months plus?

This would be a terrible environment to bring a child into. Walk away, stand on your own two feet. Have a baby yourself later if you want to. But you can't stay in this relationship.

Lavenderfowl · 26/02/2023 08:24

You either leave now, when it’s just you, or you leave when it’s you and a child, which will be much, much more difficult and distressing.

there is no happy future with this man, just imagine him turning this behaviour on a small baby (and he will, I’m recently divorced from someone who did just that).

however much you want to be a mum, do not do it with this man, things will only get worse.

strawberry2017 · 26/02/2023 08:33

People like this don't change.

Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 26/02/2023 08:47

Are we sure this is real? The language is very considered?

^Agree something seems off about this post.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 26/02/2023 08:47

Why on earth would you saddle your offspring with this toxic and vile situation??

It's supremely selfish and reprehensible to try to conceive in a horrible relationship. Really short-sighted and bad.

Naunet · 26/02/2023 08:50

Who stays when they deny battering you round the ears so much I can no longer sleep on one? Who stays?

Am I reading this right OP? He beat you around the head so badly you now have a problem with your ear? DO NOT have a baby with this man. Where are your family?

RainbowsTulipsChocolate · 26/02/2023 09:03

This reads like a dramatised novel!

if it’s real…run and have a baby with a decent man.

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