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Dating a man with no money

220 replies

Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:07

I’m in a new relationship with a man who is fairly recently divorced (18 months ago) and has retrained in his career so starting out on a fairly low ish salary for London where we live but slightly higher than average wage. He has many expenses which take up all his salary - he’s very open about his financial situation and I know the outgoings. He spends a lot on renting a place for himself. A car on finance. He has a daughter who lives abroad who he sends a lot of money to but isn’t entitled to any benefits because she is in a foreign country. In his new career there is much potential to earn more as each year passes with good progression.

i like him so much, and he’s the first decent man I’ve met in over ten years, he makes me feel so loved and wanted. Money isn’t that important to me, I am comfortable with my own place etc. I am looking for a man to settle with and build a life with and start a family. These are things he is looking for. I’m late 30s, he’s early 40s.

It’s been amazing for the past three months but lately he’s started to become so down about his financial situation, it dominates every single conversation we have. He manages to get by every month, he’s not in debt but things are tight. He is bitter and resents his situation. I try to be positive for him. He apologised for never being able to take me out. So we just sit in and watch TV. Food is an issue. He barely eats and cooks very basic meals. I see him very reluctantly pay for a coffee and if a food item isn’t reduced by £1, he won’t buy it in the supermarket. He says this will get better once the weather improves so we can start going out more on walks etc. he said he’s had a lot of expenses this month so next few months will be better.

it’s starting to get me down. I went to his cold place again last night and and watched TV while he ate a bowl of pasta and I had crisps. I often leave his place hungry. He didn’t want to come to mine as
my lodger was in. He moaned the whole time about the state of the country etc. i don’t feel comfortable asking him to buy a basic ingredient if I’m cooking a nice meal for us or suggest we go for a basic meal out. We’ve been out three times for a meal and I’ve paid every single time cos I know he’s been so short - and I couldn’t face being at home and cooking again.

i am not sure he is in the right place for a relationship. I want to be be happy, falling in love, going on dates, restaurants, theatre etc - these are the early days. I don’t even expect to be paid for! And doesn’t even have to be every week. But it’s never happened.

i was willing to overlook the lack of money but he’s becoming such a downer now it’s not even fun when we stay in together now and im starting to get cabin fever. I’m not sure it will ever get better. he’s obviously very keen for us to move in together later this year.

anyone else been in a similar situation?

OP posts:
Lampan · 02/02/2023 08:14

Sounds like you’ve answered your own question really. It’s a difficult situation but I completely understand your want to go out on dates and do fun stuff etc - for me a huge part of meeting someone is having someone to do all the fun things with. I feel sorry for him and maybe he’s depressed, but it also sounds like he could be more imaginative and plan some dates, there are plenty of free things you could be doing together.
Ultimately you have to decide if you’re prepared to wait until his situation is better, or risk not meeting anyone as ‘decent’ again. Oh and don’t move in together until you’re certain he can pay his way.

Howyiz · 02/02/2023 08:14

You've known him 3 months. With all due respect, you know nothing about this man or his finances except what he has told you, you don't know if that's true/exaggerated/complete bollox.

He already wants to move in with you and is telling you he doesn't like your lodger there but makes staying at his uncomfortable and uninviting.

He moans about money all the time so when you do go out you pay for everything!

Seriously??

LookingOldTheseDays · 02/02/2023 08:17

He ate pasta while you had crisps... so he didn't even feed you a cheap dinner at his house? And you like this man?!

This one is not worth the effort.

Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:17

He’s everything I’ve been looking for - I find it extremely difficult to meet someone like him and my time is running out. The only issue is money. It’s such a bummer.

OP posts:
Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:18

LookingOldTheseDays he did offer but I felt there may not be enough so I declined and said I would have snacks instead as wasn’t feeling hungry enough. Also I’ve been eating too much pasta lately. He does cook nice but basic meals and a lovely breakfast.

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LookingOldTheseDays · 02/02/2023 08:20

So you've been looking for a bitter, stingy man who refuses to buy basic food at full price, and won't even cook you pasta or turn the heating on for you?

While simultaneously running a car on finance in London, and sending money to his adult daughter because she is abroad but apparently not working and can't get benefits. (If not working, why isn't she coming back to the UK? I'll give you a clue - it's bullshit!)

Give your head a wobble. Seriously.

OrlandointheWilderness · 02/02/2023 08:21

God do not move in with this man, you'll be permanently bankrolling him.yes it is awful being poor and tight, I definitely know that! But I also know that you can cook good meals on very cheap ingredients and you don't have to live of plain pasta. There are plenty of free things to do, especially in London! And why can't you walk in this weather?!? I walk every day of the year, the weather is part of it! Going out in howling wind and rain is fun! Perhaps he needs to rethink the car. Does he really need one, living and working in London? And doesn't his daughter earn her own money abroad?!
Things can't stay like this, he'll just be depressed and moan until he moves in with you.

Binfluencer · 02/02/2023 08:21

A man who won't even feed you pasta is 'everything you've been looking for'.

Raise your standards OP. By a factor of 100.

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 02/02/2023 08:22

Why can't his daughter get a job and support herself assuming she's an adult? Or is the U.K. not their original birth place? (Don't mean it rudely trying to understand why she's living aboard if she's relying on her dad to pay and go without!)

He sounds like a good bloke but unless his money situation changes he'll be living off you for a long time. How will you be able to go on maternity leave etc in the future if he can't afford any of this?

CantAskAnyoneElse · 02/02/2023 08:22

he’s the first decent man I’ve met in over ten years, he makes me feel so loved and wanted.

In what way?
How does he make you feel loved and wanted, does it go beyond compliments (about looks) and sex?

If you have abuse / general dickheads in you past, maybe your standards (I swear I’m not saying this to be mean, ut’s just how it often goes) aren’t the best.

And are you ignoring things because you age and wanting children?

Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:22

His daughter is a child.

OP posts:
LookingOldTheseDays · 02/02/2023 08:22

Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:18

LookingOldTheseDays he did offer but I felt there may not be enough so I declined and said I would have snacks instead as wasn’t feeling hungry enough. Also I’ve been eating too much pasta lately. He does cook nice but basic meals and a lovely breakfast.

So his behaviour has made you feel too guilty to eat pasta at his house.

None of this is OK or normal.

KangarooKenny · 02/02/2023 08:22

He’s dragging you down, move on.

Binfluencer · 02/02/2023 08:23

LookingOldTheseDays · 02/02/2023 08:20

So you've been looking for a bitter, stingy man who refuses to buy basic food at full price, and won't even cook you pasta or turn the heating on for you?

While simultaneously running a car on finance in London, and sending money to his adult daughter because she is abroad but apparently not working and can't get benefits. (If not working, why isn't she coming back to the UK? I'll give you a clue - it's bullshit!)

Give your head a wobble. Seriously.

Agree with this. The sending money to adult daughter thing is complete bull shit.

He may well be working up to defraud you when the daughter has a 'medical emergency'.

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 02/02/2023 08:24

If she's a child why isn't the mother supporting her? How much does he send monthly? Can he cut it down?

hungerganes · 02/02/2023 08:24

But it's not just the money though, he is not dealing with this well. I can sort of understand his feelings but he makes no effort or creativity. He could still find free or cheap ways to make you feel special and do thoughtful things but he is feeling very insecure about his financial status and it's straining the relationship. Honestly, I think most men would feel emasculated by being the poor one in a relationship unless he's a cocklodger/toyboy or very ambitious and knows one day he will make it usually this is the naive young guys...
He is pessimistic, bitter, ranting and down. Maybe he is realising how little he has at 40 and how he isn't where he wanted, a mid life crisis if you like. I don't think a child would make him happy it would increase his burdens.
You not having a child yet and time ticking is not his problem.
I think you need to think carefully about how much you actually want children and what you would be willing to do or overlook to have them.

LookingOldTheseDays · 02/02/2023 08:24

Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:22

His daughter is a child.

So this is child maintenance?

In which case, benefits have nothing to do with it.

My point still stands. This is a bitter, stingy man who is not a good prospect.

Greenfairydust · 02/02/2023 08:25

He is not ''everything you are looking for''... you just had to write a lengthy story about the various issues you have with him!

After 3 months this already sounds like hard work.

He is broke, negative about life and comes with a recent divorce and a child he doesn't see regularly.

Why would you want someone like that in your life?

The fact that he wants to move in quickly is a red flag. The story he gave you could also be completely fabricated and you might very well have a ''cocklodger'' on your hands.

Leave this one while it is still early days would be my advice.

Chowtime · 02/02/2023 08:25

Where on earth did you meet him originally.

Anyway, sounds like he's angling to move in with you. Classic case really - feels hard done by after his divorce - wants his old life and financial lifestyle back - slots a solvent women into the gap, problem solved.

Moveoverdarlin · 02/02/2023 08:25

I would give him some time, and things will seem better in the summer. My brother ended up a bit like this. He was doing well, but after a nasty divorce, his ex bled him dry and he went from being pretty well-off to being on his uppers. But then after a year or so, he met someone else and things got slowly better. There is a big difference in not earning any money and not having any money. At least he’s earning, it takes a lot of effort to retrain in your forties. I can understand why he’s down about it, sending money overseas for a child you never see must be a killer.

Howyiz · 02/02/2023 08:26

Moneyworriess · 02/02/2023 08:17

He’s everything I’ve been looking for - I find it extremely difficult to meet someone like him and my time is running out. The only issue is money. It’s such a bummer.

Sure crack on so!
What do you want us to do? Set up a go fund me page for you?

Blip · 02/02/2023 08:28

There are surely loads of fun free things to do and see in London in February?
Why aren't you doing them together?

What does he do for you OP, how does he make you feel special, feel loved, feel happy?

Warspite · 02/02/2023 08:29

Back off from him. I bet he wants to live with you! He’s a cock lodger in waiting.
Other MN’s have given you good advice. Take heed or proceed at your peril.

Zippedydoo123 · 02/02/2023 08:30

Most single men seem in a muddle over their life if you ask me.

talknomore · 02/02/2023 08:30

How old is his daughter?