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I don’t know how to move past this comment

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HotPotInASpot · 24/01/2023 18:58

Background info - 15 years ago X happened to me. It was a hugely traumatic event, I had years of counselling, I still regularly wake up screaming, I have both physical scars from X self harm scars as a result of being unable to cope all over me, I cannot speak about it without having a full panic attack, if I see anything related on the news I have to do a full deescalation routine to stop myself panicking. About a decade ago a book was written about X and the author said he would either use my words from police interviews and the court case or I could write a statement that he’d include. I did the latter and various parts of this are included in his book. This is the only time I have used my own words to describe it other than to the police and court. I absolutely cannot physically discuss it.

I’ve been casually seeing a man for a couple of years. About a year in after I woke up at his screaming I sent him a message to say X happened to me, if you want details read this book, I can’t speak about it but I want you to understand. Recently he moved closer as his eldest had left for uni so we decided to give the relationship a proper go rather than just seeing each other a couple of times a month due to distance/ childcare. I introduced him to my dc for the first time a couple of months ago and I really thought we had a proper future together, never had an argument or disagreement since we’ve met.

Then at the weekend we were chatting about stuff and he mentioned a few things he wanted to do in the next couple of years as he felt he’d led a fairly unexciting life up until recently. I said that unexciting isn’t necessarily a bad thing and he said that it was easy for me to say. That I’ve lived the most exciting life out of anyone he knows and he finds it absolutely fascinating. I didn’t really know what he meant and asked him to clarify as, apart from a bit of travelling that ended in a few disastrous comedy moments as a young adult my life had been pretty straightforward. He said “all the stuff you said about X in the book. I’ve read it so many times and I know I’ve never talked to you about it but it’s such a huge, fascinating thing. So often I’ll look at you and you’ll be completely normal and lovely and I am just amazed that you’ve gone through this incredible thing.”

It just broke me. I left and came home and told him that I found the comment really upsetting. He’s apologised profusely for upsetting me but keeps saying it was just badly worded rather than that he didn’t mean it. I don’t know if I’m overreacting because I know I don’t necessarily react rationally when it comes to X. I hate the thought that he’s ever looking at me thinking X happened to me. Please can someone give advice.

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Paslaptis · 25/01/2023 17:39

I'm not sure is this is helpful or not, but I want to preface my comment by saying that I have PTSD - with a root trauma very different from yours and (I think) much more private. Every trauma is different and everyone reacts differently and everyone's recovery process and coping mechanisms are different. BUT I think to the vast majority of trauma survivors any suggestion that the incident that caused the trauma was somehow a blessing in disguise feels almost obscene. His comments read uncomfortably close to that for me.

I may be off base, but given what he does know - that you cannot discuss X, that you had to email him and refer him to a book rather than telling him what happened, that you have a routine to de-escalate if you hear X referenced unexpectedly, and that you have terrifying nightmares about X - I would be unhappy about the fact that he raised X at all, regardless of the exact words he said. Yes, it's possible to slip, but he went on calmly discussing it rather than realising what he'd done and stopping and changing the subject. I think I would have to make sure he understood and agreed NEVER to bring it up again in order to continue having a relationship, otherwise I would always be anxious about what he might say and that I'd be blindsided by a comment.

I realised that the "walk in Spain" was likely the Camino de Santiago or one of its smaller routes, and that he may be thinking of walking it solo as something difficult and challenging. But there shouldn't be an implicit comparison between something grueling that he can CHOOSE to do (and can opt out of) with an ordeal forced on another person.

I agree with the posters who have said that you know him and we don't, and in the end your instincts about what you need, what he can provide, and how the two of you are together trump everything. But take care of yourself first: he may be a fantastic person and just not able to give you what you want and need. This is just a base gut reaction, but I don't like the fact that he hasn't seemed to say he's sorry for hurting you, or to ask how to avoid doing it again.

9thFloorNightmare · 25/01/2023 19:33

HotPotInASpot · 25/01/2023 15:15

He’s messaged me saying “I’m so sorry that I upset you, I promise you that’s the last thing I’d ever want to do. I meant that I’ve never met anyone like you, who has loved the life you have and I think everyone should want to be a bit like you”. So, no real apology for what he actually said.

jezzzzz he is completely disconnected to the real you OP and is now living a relationship with some fantasy on his head - ditch

Mylaferret · 25/01/2023 22:41

HotPotInASpot · 25/01/2023 15:15

He’s messaged me saying “I’m so sorry that I upset you, I promise you that’s the last thing I’d ever want to do. I meant that I’ve never met anyone like you, who has loved the life you have and I think everyone should want to be a bit like you”. So, no real apology for what he actually said.

He still doesn't get it.

SunflowerTed · 25/01/2023 22:52

HotPotInASpot · 25/01/2023 15:15

He’s messaged me saying “I’m so sorry that I upset you, I promise you that’s the last thing I’d ever want to do. I meant that I’ve never met anyone like you, who has loved the life you have and I think everyone should want to be a bit like you”. So, no real apology for what he actually said.

I’m feeling a bit sorry for him to be honest

Heronswater · 25/01/2023 23:04

SunflowerTed · 25/01/2023 22:52

I’m feeling a bit sorry for him to be honest

Why on earth? He’s fetishising the OP’s status as the victim of a horrific crime!

DixonD · 25/01/2023 23:48

HotPotInASpot · 24/01/2023 20:09

@Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink I made it very clear when I originally messaged him about it that I can’t talk about the event itself. I have spoken to him about how it affects me in as much as he knows why I leave the room if something similar comes on the news/ tv plot, he knows why I sometimes wake up in a panic, can’t wear headphones, always need to know where an exit route is, for example. But I don’t think much can be gained for either of us from discussing the event.

This sounds awful OP. I’m so sorry something so traumatic happened to you.

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