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I asked DH of 9 years if he can name anything he actually likes about me

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acidreign · 18/01/2023 22:54

I would genuinely welcome any opinions on this conversation I had with DH a few days ago, as I've been ruminating on it since and don't know whether I'm right to feel as sad as I do about it.

This was after an argument but when we were calm again and making up. I was feeling quite low and told him that sometimes it feels like he really despises me and I have often felt like he simply doesn't like me, and isn't that quite sad after being together for so long? I asked him if he could even name one thing he likes about me. He cuddled me, told me to shush (as if he was trying to soothe me), told me he loved me. I asked him again and told him it was a serious question. He responded after a few seconds "I like it when you're happy, and I like all the things you do for me". Then told me I'm beautiful. I asked if there was anything about my personality he actually liked, and he said "I just told you, I like you when you're happy". I've been feeling a bit down about this ever since as I could write a long list of things I like about him.

Do I have any right to be sad? Is this just me trying to make a big deal out of nothing or would you also be sad at this response?

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseBrick · 19/01/2023 23:28

Is he good with words? can he normally articulate his feelings? If so then yes maybe he doesnt like you. If not then you are asking for something that's really hard for him to put into words.

For example my husband would probably give a response similar to yours. But he is absolutely awful at describing things. For example if I cant go to a parents evening and ask him how it went 'it went fine', I ask yes but what did the teacher actually say, strengths and weaknesses etc 'they said it's all fine'. Or if we have something new to eat and I ask what he thinks about it he will say something random like 'yes', I'll ask what specifically he likes and he he will say 'it's good'. It drives me mental. So it's not surprising that he cant articulate what he likes about me

NocturnalClocks · 20/01/2023 10:43

Onnabugeisha · 19/01/2023 14:24

OP
Ah, I feel so much for you. I think getting an ASD assessment would be super helpful for you as then you could access depression therapies for people with autism. It’s heartbreaking to read the therapy you had did more harm than good. I’m amazed you are coping as well as you are. It would also help your partner understand you better…how your mind works, the ways he can adjust to accommodate, and honestly it helps both of you to know what you can’t help about yourself.

The feeling like a fake, the exhaustion from socialising..those are more ASD traits. ASD isn’t a bad thing or a problem with you, it’s simply being a different kind of human being. My DD who has ASD pretty severely said humans need autistic humans because no neurotypical human would have tested berries or mushrooms obsessively to determine which ones were delicious food and which were poisonous. Only a human with ASD would have the passion plus determination to discover new foods. She also had the example of making fire…as in no neurotypical human would go around bashing two rocks together to discover that a lump of ironite and a lump of flint give off sparks. Only a human with autism would spend probably a lifetime searching out and bashing different rocks together to see what would happen and then discover fire. So her theory is that humanity needs humans with ASD, always has and always will.

Even if you are not autistic, it’s a good point in that no matter how unique or quirky we may be, we are still needed as human beings and valuable.

Your daughter may find this article very interesting. Quite old now but subsequent research has supported and provided more evidence for this. Though focused on genes that are associated with depression, it equally applies to differences such as ASD which were also seen traditionally only in terms of disadvantage, without any thought for the upsides (on a societal level) and why those genetic profiles would be so prevalent if there wasn't a significant upside.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/12/the-science-of-success/307761/

Stravaig · 20/01/2023 11:28

@NocturnalClocks Oh this is illuminating! Thanks for posting.

NocturnalClocks · 20/01/2023 13:19

I thought it might help OP, too. It certainly helped me to understand myself in a different way, when I read it all those years ago. It stuck with me and I've tracked the research in this area since with great interest.

It also goes to show that with greater understanding in society of how differences benefit everyone and society supporting those - rather than making people feel like they're a problem or a burden - everyone will flourish more. Orchids just need more care than dandelions, and we should all facilitate that even out of selfishness, if we lack altruism.

NocturnalClocks · 20/01/2023 13:22

If you look back historically at regimes that discouraged/ punished difference, demanded conformity (and indeed in present times, also) they don't exactly make much progress in anything that matters do they? Science, ethics, philosophy, art, literature... so I think anthropology also aligns with the genetic evidence.

beezlebubnicky · 20/01/2023 21:19

acidreign · 19/01/2023 06:53

Thank you, I have just ordered the book. DH will probably roll his eyes and ask why I'm creating problems that don't exist. I feel like I'm opening a can of worms.

Really hope it helps you OP.

It definitely doesn't create problems, although you do need to be willing to approach the conversations with an open mind, and with willingness to listen to each other's perspectives. Sending you my love.

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