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not sure if i am being dramatic and overlooking. scared of my partner a little. i need advice asap please

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scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:06

hi there, this is probably going to be quite long winded so i appologise in advance but feel i need to go into detail in order to get peoples thoughts. i have been with my partner for 2.5 years and we have lived together for 1 year. i have two girls 10 and 6 and he has no children. my kids see their dad and child arrangement is 5050. my partner helps me financially and overall is great with the kids, espeically my youngest. they have developed a great relationship.

my oldest has always had behavioral issues, its not like she is punching walls or physically abusive but she is very full on, loud, bad tempered etc. her heart is in the right place and she sees the error of her behaviors but she is getting serious talks every few months of what her behavior is doing. i try to be as close as i can to her and listen to any issues or concerns she has. basically her heart is in the right place but she can be very cheeky such as eye rolling talking back, general disobedience but it is hard working when it happens 80-90% of the time. my partner struggles with my oldest dd behavior and i sympathize and try my hardest to keep the peace and discipline also.

my partners idea of family and mines are both the same. the girls dad was a functioning alcoholic as i like to call it. most of our issues came down to his level of drinking and inability to control himself. i didnt want my kids being brought up like that. their dad has moved onto a new partner now and seems to have matured and calmed down and refrain from acting like that while girls are there.

i really just want a quiet family life and my partner wants the same. on and off i have felt he was abit dramatic with arguments and could mage huge issues out of non issues. he does admit that when he thinks someone is unfair or not nice to him that he does explode and it is somethingt he has tried to change about his character but he just cant do it. when nothing is annoying him he is the nicest caring man. i feel that he is happy as long as things are his way. i feel i am ranting so i am going to write some scenarios of arguments

  • told the dds we would go to cinema and next day he said it was too late and we werent going. because i disagreed and said yes we are i told the kids we are and i wont dissapoint them. this transpired that i am selfish and speaking down to him and i am a bad woman and parent.
  • he arranged a hamster for my oldest daughter last year which i was against but now we planned to move he told her oh we arent taking the hamster when we move. i told him this wasnt fair on my oldest and we had to keep it until it died and he was to learn a lesson not to get animals again and that we cant change minds like that especially when kids are involved. he turned this into i wasnt backing him up and i love a hamster more than him.
  • gets annoyed if the girls make any noise when he wants silence. said they are selfish for not respecting the fact he works. says the same for morning times at the weekend. it has to be quiet until he wakes up. if they have a genuine problem then that is ok but otherwise to see to themselves until we wake up.

on some notes i can see his point as in kids respecting adults rules etc, the kids helping me so they learn how to jobs around the house. he is pretty old fashioned which i am ok with traditional values to a certain point. i cook clean iron do everything and he will offer help. what i dont like is when we have an argument he will criticise everything i do. calls me a bad mum, says the house lacks woman presence, im disrespectful of his wishes, i only think about myself. i didnt buy the right oil the other day and he accused me of starving him cause he couldnt cook eggs. he comments i have a bad attitude if i am not 100% smiley all the time. i feel i am rambling and not giving any context but it is so difficult to pinpoint. he has told me on many occasions that he can do better than me, my parents should be thanking him for taking me and my kids on board when he is such an amazing guy, says he is cleaner than me, knows more about my kids than me, smarter than me, i am to poor for him, i am using him for a house, i dont love or respect him. alot of his behaviour is really concerning me the more i think of it i think he is quite narcasisstic. i hate saying this because i hear it all the time on tv etc. i feel i try my absolute hardest but no matter what i do it will always be me being the failure. he says everything that we argue about is from my side and not his.

we had an argument the other day in relation to the cinema saga. ended a screaming match and him saying to the kids we arent taking the new house because of you and your sister. its all your fault girls. he ignored everyone stamped around, locked me out the bedroom. was shouting saying the kids are unmannered and disrespectful kids and that he would never raise kids like how i have. said i am a failure and a joke as a mother. my 6 year old was distraught and still is by this. she was truly heartbroken and i keep replaying it in my head. he was messaging from the other room saying i dont love him and everyone hates him. i ignored him . he later came through and apologised to my youngest and said sometimes adults disagree and we say things we dont mean and appologiesed gave her a kiss and a cuddle. he said he loves the kids but it is difficult, more so with the oldest.

there has been other issues such as i feel i cant see friends i get nervous approaching the subject as he will say i dont love him or i am not a family orientated person because my mind is only on friends. i have cancelled so many nights out. it is my cousins party next month which all girls care going to including my mum and gran and i am feeling sick at the thought of the saying to him. he acts cool until it is approaching then will cause arguments then say i dont care about him because i chose to go on a night out instead of fixing the relationship. he will comment sayinng oh why dont you meet your friends for a coffee or something. i now feel it is all fake the niceness and that he knows how to play the good guy perfectly.

at my work christmas party i was looking forward to, he acted fine until he seen me dressed up. told me we will speak in the morning and that we are over because i am a cheat. text arguing the whole night with me. told me he wo9uld pick me up and collected me early, refused to take my friend home as he had offered and drove of crazy with rage. he told me at home he could smell dick breath and all this nonsense and stormed off to bed. later that night he apologised and said he g ot jealous and doesnt want to lose me. i just feel everything is abnormal now.

i am definately no angel and i can have a temper and be wrong at times yes, it is human. i feel ground down to nothing like i have lost part of my personality. my stomach has been nervous for over a week now as it has been on and off arguments. he will say i dont want to lose you and then have an attitude and be looking on rightmove but then 20 mins later turn round saying he was just looking in general and he isnt in a mood. its playing with my mind.

am i over thinking everything ?? i really cant work it out if i am this bad selfish person and i just cant see it or if its both of us. i feel scared and sick with it all. i want to protect my children also. i feel alone and confused. everyone thinks he is the best guy ever, polite well mannered calm quite quiet.he can be the best guy but quoting his own words " i can be a bastard if you want the bastard"

sorry this has rambled on with no actual context. i just feel so confused and scared with the thought of am i so crazy i cant see how bad i am or is it him??

thank you for anyone that takes the time to read!

OP posts:
Swannning · 10/01/2023 15:10

Jesus he is awful and he is emotionally abusing you and your children. He is trying to alienate you from your family and friends. Truly leave the bastard, and I don't say that lightly.

Blueuggboots · 10/01/2023 15:11

He sounds horrible. I'd be organising to leave, especially as this is a really poor example of a relationship for your children.
Anyone who makes you feel shit about yourself is not the one for you.

Vinylloving · 10/01/2023 15:13

I feel so sad for you and your daughters, please leave him. He sounds abusive and controlling. It feels like he has positioned himself as better than their dad due to the alcohol thing, but his behaviour as described is truly awful and just as bad.
Do you live in his house? Or is it your house? Can you ask him to leave? If you aren't already financially dependent, act now and dont become dependent

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:15

Vinylloving · 10/01/2023 15:13

I feel so sad for you and your daughters, please leave him. He sounds abusive and controlling. It feels like he has positioned himself as better than their dad due to the alcohol thing, but his behaviour as described is truly awful and just as bad.
Do you live in his house? Or is it your house? Can you ask him to leave? If you aren't already financially dependent, act now and dont become dependent

he moved into my flat. he thinks he is the most perfect man and calls their dad a loser. when he was shouting he even said he will givve me x amount of money as he isnt a bastard like their dad. he was shouting it so the girls heard.

when we have argued it has always been between us but this time he involved the kids and still wont take blame . he still says the girls caused the argument.

i feel disgusted he has involved them as i could deal when it was just between us.

OP posts:
JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:16

I'll be honest, I did not read all of that. I read enough. Because this is not a court of law. You don't need to prove to anybody that it's not right.
It doesn't feel right. If it doesn't feel right it isn't right.
Life would be easier on your own.
What would you need to do to be single? Is it his place, joint or yours?

TedMullins · 10/01/2023 15:17

He's abusive to you and your children. You all deserve better but it's your responsibility as their mum to remove them from this. Kick him out. He's a controlling misogynist scumbag.

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:18

Ah delighted to hear it's your flat.

What is your relationship with your children's father like? would he help you get yerman out? You don't have to tell him everything just that you know it's not right and you and your children need him out.

Don't worry about losing face. Just worry about getting him out of your flat.

BodenCardiganNot · 10/01/2023 15:18

Your children have no choice in this situation. You have. You have to do what is right for them and for yourself and get him out.

piedbeauty · 10/01/2023 15:18

This made me so sad to read, OP. He is abusing and controlling you, and trying to distance and alienate you from your family and friends. Shouting at you is abusive too.

In a normal, healthy relationship, you should be able to do what you want, see who you want, go out with friends, wear what you want, and your partner will support you, not shout at you.

I'd leave him. You and your lovely dc deserve SO much better.

viques · 10/01/2023 15:19

I think you need to read this back to yourself OP.

I bet now you have started to list them there are a lot more instances of his controlling behaviour you can think of. He doesn’t sound like the sort of man I would want girls ( or boys for that matter) to be around during their formative years

points to consider:

I don’t think he is going to change his attitude

I don’t think you should be changing your perfectly acceptable behaviour to accommodate his tantrums.

is this the role model of relationships you want your girls to grow up with and think is normal.

do you think he sees you as an equal partner in the relationship.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:20

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:18

Ah delighted to hear it's your flat.

What is your relationship with your children's father like? would he help you get yerman out? You don't have to tell him everything just that you know it's not right and you and your children need him out.

Don't worry about losing face. Just worry about getting him out of your flat.

their dad is expect a baby this month so probably wouldnt want to get them involved. if anything i could explain and ask him to keep the girls an extra week or so for me to sort things.

i feel really scared and sick about it all. i dont understand how someone can be so nice and yet be so nasty. i still doubt if it is me as he is so strong on his point. he says i cant provide evidence to back myself up but he can say x y z why it is my fault.

OP posts:
Suzi89 · 10/01/2023 15:20

He’s very toxic. Don’t let your kids stay in this situation.

saraclara · 10/01/2023 15:22

Another one who's relieved that it's your flat.

He needs to go. He is abusing you and your children. He's traumatised your six year old.

You need help to throw him out. Is there anyone you can call on to be there to keep you safe when you do so?

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:23

viques · 10/01/2023 15:19

I think you need to read this back to yourself OP.

I bet now you have started to list them there are a lot more instances of his controlling behaviour you can think of. He doesn’t sound like the sort of man I would want girls ( or boys for that matter) to be around during their formative years

points to consider:

I don’t think he is going to change his attitude

I don’t think you should be changing your perfectly acceptable behaviour to accommodate his tantrums.

is this the role model of relationships you want your girls to grow up with and think is normal.

do you think he sees you as an equal partner in the relationship.

we havent argued for months but recently there has been a few and i am tired of his tantrums. he said before he liked it because i wouldnt fight back and he is fine with me arguing back but said i argue with everything and instead of arguing he wishes i would just give him a cuddle.

it is a total head fuck and i am scared of what attitude he will have tonight when he comes in from work. i feel the more i look into things i feel he is incredibly child like.

OP posts:
viques · 10/01/2023 15:23

“I don’t understand how someone can be so nice and yet be so nasty”

Because he enjoys seeing you squirm, enjoys seeing you lose confidence in yourself, enjoys confusing you be his changes in behaviour. It’s called gaslighting.

saraclara · 10/01/2023 15:24

If he is so unhappy with you, then surely he wouldn't choose to stay with you?
Tell him you're setting him free so that he can find someone he can be happy with.

And yes, do get your ex to have the children while this is going on, and ask a friend to be in the house with you. If you have no-one to do that, talk to women's aid.

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:25

Ok, fair enough, but could he or a brother or your Dad come around for a few hours while he packed up his stuff and left?
If he's the kind of Dad that has his kids fifty fifty I hope he could help his children when it's really needed.

You do not need to have evidence!!! This is the number he has done on you.
The relationship is not working and you want it over. Anybody can end a relationship at any point because they want to and they do not, no matter emotionally abused or coerced they are feeling need ''evidence''.
He has trained you to see things through his lens. That you need to run your view point past him for approval and if he disagrees with your viewpoint it's not correct.

You want him gone, the end.

Of course he will be nasty. I have been in your shoes although it was my own DC's father. i would laugh now at the barrage of insults he fired at me. But that 's what nasty controlling people do when they have lost control of you.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:25

saraclara · 10/01/2023 15:22

Another one who's relieved that it's your flat.

He needs to go. He is abusing you and your children. He's traumatised your six year old.

You need help to throw him out. Is there anyone you can call on to be there to keep you safe when you do so?

i wouldnt want to bring this onto my parents. i am scared as i truly dont know what he is capable of if he is angry. part of me thinks he will leave and just block me quietly as he thinks he is so superior.

he is not from here so he has no family here so the other part of me thinks the loneliness will make him do something crazy. i dont know if i am over thinking it still. i am questioning everything now.

OP posts:
StewPots · 10/01/2023 15:25

He’s emotionally abusive, controlling and basically a grade A twat. This WILL escalate OP - he’s not nice if he can turn like he has done, trust me I speak from bitter experience.

Glad it’s your flat - call someone like Womens Aid for support and advice and get rid of this horrid, nasty prick of a “man”

pinneddownbytabbies · 10/01/2023 15:26

He is abusing your children.

It is decision time.

NothingBut · 10/01/2023 15:26

He sounds really awful. I can see why you’re scared of him.

I think you will have a problem getting rid of him so you need to make a determined decision and have a plan. What will you do if he won’t leave? What if he begs/pleads/becomes nice/tries to persuade you/turns nasty/threatens to harm himself?

StewPots · 10/01/2023 15:26

Also - if he threatens to do “something crazy” call the police and let them deal with it. And if he goes through with anything then please remember it is not your fault or your responsibility. He is however using this as another form of control - again, I speak from experience

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:27

You ''argue'' not for fun but because you need to represent your own interests which he presumably doesn't consider valid or real. He wants you to sublimate those and ''give him a cuddle''.
I bet you are not arguing for fun are you?

Soontobe60 · 10/01/2023 15:28

He is NOT a good partner or substitute father. He needs to move out NOW before your children end up suffering any more. If her refuses to leave, phone the police.

Hoppinggreen · 10/01/2023 15:29

Awful abusive man.
I know your bar is probably low due to your ex but he’s not nice at all. As for your point that he’s nice when nothing is annoying him it’s tragic that you think that’s ok.
Your poor girls, please kick him out asap