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not sure if i am being dramatic and overlooking. scared of my partner a little. i need advice asap please

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scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:06

hi there, this is probably going to be quite long winded so i appologise in advance but feel i need to go into detail in order to get peoples thoughts. i have been with my partner for 2.5 years and we have lived together for 1 year. i have two girls 10 and 6 and he has no children. my kids see their dad and child arrangement is 5050. my partner helps me financially and overall is great with the kids, espeically my youngest. they have developed a great relationship.

my oldest has always had behavioral issues, its not like she is punching walls or physically abusive but she is very full on, loud, bad tempered etc. her heart is in the right place and she sees the error of her behaviors but she is getting serious talks every few months of what her behavior is doing. i try to be as close as i can to her and listen to any issues or concerns she has. basically her heart is in the right place but she can be very cheeky such as eye rolling talking back, general disobedience but it is hard working when it happens 80-90% of the time. my partner struggles with my oldest dd behavior and i sympathize and try my hardest to keep the peace and discipline also.

my partners idea of family and mines are both the same. the girls dad was a functioning alcoholic as i like to call it. most of our issues came down to his level of drinking and inability to control himself. i didnt want my kids being brought up like that. their dad has moved onto a new partner now and seems to have matured and calmed down and refrain from acting like that while girls are there.

i really just want a quiet family life and my partner wants the same. on and off i have felt he was abit dramatic with arguments and could mage huge issues out of non issues. he does admit that when he thinks someone is unfair or not nice to him that he does explode and it is somethingt he has tried to change about his character but he just cant do it. when nothing is annoying him he is the nicest caring man. i feel that he is happy as long as things are his way. i feel i am ranting so i am going to write some scenarios of arguments

  • told the dds we would go to cinema and next day he said it was too late and we werent going. because i disagreed and said yes we are i told the kids we are and i wont dissapoint them. this transpired that i am selfish and speaking down to him and i am a bad woman and parent.
  • he arranged a hamster for my oldest daughter last year which i was against but now we planned to move he told her oh we arent taking the hamster when we move. i told him this wasnt fair on my oldest and we had to keep it until it died and he was to learn a lesson not to get animals again and that we cant change minds like that especially when kids are involved. he turned this into i wasnt backing him up and i love a hamster more than him.
  • gets annoyed if the girls make any noise when he wants silence. said they are selfish for not respecting the fact he works. says the same for morning times at the weekend. it has to be quiet until he wakes up. if they have a genuine problem then that is ok but otherwise to see to themselves until we wake up.

on some notes i can see his point as in kids respecting adults rules etc, the kids helping me so they learn how to jobs around the house. he is pretty old fashioned which i am ok with traditional values to a certain point. i cook clean iron do everything and he will offer help. what i dont like is when we have an argument he will criticise everything i do. calls me a bad mum, says the house lacks woman presence, im disrespectful of his wishes, i only think about myself. i didnt buy the right oil the other day and he accused me of starving him cause he couldnt cook eggs. he comments i have a bad attitude if i am not 100% smiley all the time. i feel i am rambling and not giving any context but it is so difficult to pinpoint. he has told me on many occasions that he can do better than me, my parents should be thanking him for taking me and my kids on board when he is such an amazing guy, says he is cleaner than me, knows more about my kids than me, smarter than me, i am to poor for him, i am using him for a house, i dont love or respect him. alot of his behaviour is really concerning me the more i think of it i think he is quite narcasisstic. i hate saying this because i hear it all the time on tv etc. i feel i try my absolute hardest but no matter what i do it will always be me being the failure. he says everything that we argue about is from my side and not his.

we had an argument the other day in relation to the cinema saga. ended a screaming match and him saying to the kids we arent taking the new house because of you and your sister. its all your fault girls. he ignored everyone stamped around, locked me out the bedroom. was shouting saying the kids are unmannered and disrespectful kids and that he would never raise kids like how i have. said i am a failure and a joke as a mother. my 6 year old was distraught and still is by this. she was truly heartbroken and i keep replaying it in my head. he was messaging from the other room saying i dont love him and everyone hates him. i ignored him . he later came through and apologised to my youngest and said sometimes adults disagree and we say things we dont mean and appologiesed gave her a kiss and a cuddle. he said he loves the kids but it is difficult, more so with the oldest.

there has been other issues such as i feel i cant see friends i get nervous approaching the subject as he will say i dont love him or i am not a family orientated person because my mind is only on friends. i have cancelled so many nights out. it is my cousins party next month which all girls care going to including my mum and gran and i am feeling sick at the thought of the saying to him. he acts cool until it is approaching then will cause arguments then say i dont care about him because i chose to go on a night out instead of fixing the relationship. he will comment sayinng oh why dont you meet your friends for a coffee or something. i now feel it is all fake the niceness and that he knows how to play the good guy perfectly.

at my work christmas party i was looking forward to, he acted fine until he seen me dressed up. told me we will speak in the morning and that we are over because i am a cheat. text arguing the whole night with me. told me he wo9uld pick me up and collected me early, refused to take my friend home as he had offered and drove of crazy with rage. he told me at home he could smell dick breath and all this nonsense and stormed off to bed. later that night he apologised and said he g ot jealous and doesnt want to lose me. i just feel everything is abnormal now.

i am definately no angel and i can have a temper and be wrong at times yes, it is human. i feel ground down to nothing like i have lost part of my personality. my stomach has been nervous for over a week now as it has been on and off arguments. he will say i dont want to lose you and then have an attitude and be looking on rightmove but then 20 mins later turn round saying he was just looking in general and he isnt in a mood. its playing with my mind.

am i over thinking everything ?? i really cant work it out if i am this bad selfish person and i just cant see it or if its both of us. i feel scared and sick with it all. i want to protect my children also. i feel alone and confused. everyone thinks he is the best guy ever, polite well mannered calm quite quiet.he can be the best guy but quoting his own words " i can be a bastard if you want the bastard"

sorry this has rambled on with no actual context. i just feel so confused and scared with the thought of am i so crazy i cant see how bad i am or is it him??

thank you for anyone that takes the time to read!

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 10/01/2023 15:29

Please contact these today xxx
www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:30

Ah he's not from ''here''.

So handy for him to have found a girlfriend with a flat.

Honestly, ring women's Aid and / or ring the police.

It will be a nightmare. He won't go quietly. You can expect to be called a midget/monster/hairy/frumpy/fat/skinny/freaky/loser/ageing minging/moaning/frigid/slutty bitch. Whatever he thinks will hurt. But just say ''ok''.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:32

NothingBut · 10/01/2023 15:26

He sounds really awful. I can see why you’re scared of him.

I think you will have a problem getting rid of him so you need to make a determined decision and have a plan. What will you do if he won’t leave? What if he begs/pleads/becomes nice/tries to persuade you/turns nasty/threatens to harm himself?

last week when he finished for the 50th time this year. he said give himk 4 months he will get a place and be fgone and we will split everything until then. he does this though then always says he cant live without me and all that stuff. i thiknk i might phone womens aid as i feel anything i trusted in him is gone.

we went though such a hard time to get to this point. we have different cultures and his parents didnt want him to be with someone with kids. they didnt know me personally. he pushed and pushed and said how i am as a person etc and they agreed. his family is lovely and i try look for issues that think would cause this side. his mum and dad are strict and i think if they knew how he was acting they would be disgusted.

i dont know what i am going to do. i am so scared to leave but feel as mch as i love the nice side of him. the bad side scares me too much and i cant forgive what he done, espeically to my youngest who adores him and causes zero issues.

i think he feels guilt but turns it round to "everyone hates me" to play the victim.

if i ask him to leave i am scared that he will know my address and knows the weeks i dont have the kids also.

if he knew i was worrying all this he would say dont be silly and that i dont know him at all if i am scared of him.

OP posts:
saraclara · 10/01/2023 15:33

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/

Seaoftroubles · 10/01/2023 15:34

OP, he sounds horrendous, your poor children! So glad it's your flat though, as at least you can get rid.
If you feel scared of him then please contact Womens Aid for help and advice. Do not spend another minute allowing this toxic man to behave abusively towards you and your family.

viques · 10/01/2023 15:34

And another thing, if it is your flat then don’t move anywhere especially anywhere where his name goes on any piece of paper, if you rent and the rental agreement is coming to an end then you re rent somewhere on your own, you as the only named tenant. NOT WITH HIM.

If you own your home then the same applies but with knobs on.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:35

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:30

Ah he's not from ''here''.

So handy for him to have found a girlfriend with a flat.

Honestly, ring women's Aid and / or ring the police.

It will be a nightmare. He won't go quietly. You can expect to be called a midget/monster/hairy/frumpy/fat/skinny/freaky/loser/ageing minging/moaning/frigid/slutty bitch. Whatever he thinks will hurt. But just say ''ok''.

yeah he lived 30 mins away before but we agreedd to live at mines for a year then buy somewhere together. his family are elsewhere in europe so he is here himself.

OP posts:
pleaseandthankyou45 · 10/01/2023 15:36

He is abusive

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:37

Seaoftroubles · 10/01/2023 15:34

OP, he sounds horrendous, your poor children! So glad it's your flat though, as at least you can get rid.
If you feel scared of him then please contact Womens Aid for help and advice. Do not spend another minute allowing this toxic man to behave abusively towards you and your family.

yes its my flat rented so i wont be here forever . we were supposed to be buying a house like in the next fw months but i am going to pull the plug now. i am scared for my kids and how he would act if we were tied down with a mortgage. he said my behaviour has changed and he is afraid and belives that i think "ive got him now" he said he is scared to buy a home with me becaue i have changed. infact this is what i am afraid of.

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Vinylloving · 10/01/2023 15:38

Ok so having caught up, it is your flat so you can get him out. Don't pity him. Use the support signposted on here, police, women's aid etc, any friends in your life for moral or practical support- this is the one time you should call on anyone you can who cares about you, and if not even you, your two children. Just keep them in your mind. They are everything to you and deserve better. You can do it, be strong and fight for a better life for you and them

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:39

Oh yes, he will play the victim, but you cannot let that dissuade you from what you know is right for your dc.

There is power in being the victim. Whatever ''reason'' you give him for wanting him out he will try to prove it an insubstantial argument that he is the victim of.
He will be the victim of your cold hearted cruelty! Because you're not allowed to feel your own emotions (he just wants you to shut up and give him a cuddle, not have to beg him to consider you, which he calls an ''argument'').

So in preparation for getting him out, know that he will be predictable. He will play the victim. He will label you cold-hearted et cetera, but although you will fee that very intensely right now, it will pass and you will have your flat back.
If you put it off and put it off and put it off, nothing will change.

I'd advise giving him very little reason ''I don't want this any more''. ''I want to be single now''. I don't want to be in a relationship with you.

Because whatever you say he's going to undermine you as though you need a reason he approves of to end it.

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 15:42

He is an awful, abusive man. He's not only abusing you, he's abusing your daughters too. They are learning about relationships from this situation. When they are adults this is the bar they will judge their own relationships against. If you want better for them you need to teach them now not to accept this and tell him to sling his hook.

billy1966 · 10/01/2023 15:43

For Goodnestone sake you have moved a house terrorist into your home who is abusing your children.

YOU are afraid of him, can you imagine how terrified your poor children are.

Call 101 and tell them the truth.

You are afraid and so are your children of this man you moved in.

Get him OUT.

Your poor poor children.

NapoliTutti · 10/01/2023 15:44

Kick that horrible ABUSIVE arse out of your flat right now. He is emotionally abusing both you and your children.

dick breath… wtf he arse needs to be gone. Your girls are learning about relationships from you, if you dont want them to repeat what they’re seeing now in later life, you need to LTB now. Xx

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:45

JoyPeaceHealth · 10/01/2023 15:39

Oh yes, he will play the victim, but you cannot let that dissuade you from what you know is right for your dc.

There is power in being the victim. Whatever ''reason'' you give him for wanting him out he will try to prove it an insubstantial argument that he is the victim of.
He will be the victim of your cold hearted cruelty! Because you're not allowed to feel your own emotions (he just wants you to shut up and give him a cuddle, not have to beg him to consider you, which he calls an ''argument'').

So in preparation for getting him out, know that he will be predictable. He will play the victim. He will label you cold-hearted et cetera, but although you will fee that very intensely right now, it will pass and you will have your flat back.
If you put it off and put it off and put it off, nothing will change.

I'd advise giving him very little reason ''I don't want this any more''. ''I want to be single now''. I don't want to be in a relationship with you.

Because whatever you say he's going to undermine you as though you need a reason he approves of to end it.

the stuff you have said i can hear it already, you are so right. before he would say he is so disgusted he didnt expect i would be fake like all the others. he didnt expect me to be such a fake heartless person and that he is happy i showed my "real face" eventually. tells me that i see him like a toy to play with his emotions.

i cant understand how someone could be so sick to do this to a person. i dont know if he even realises and is just so toxic he cant see it or if it is planned.

his reason for ending with his exes was never really his fault .he said when he was younger he was a dick etc in his 20s but ad he got older the girls werent serious for a family etc. i know it will be all my fault and i will be the one to blame for all this.

when we argue now i say "ok" so he cant say i am being rude ignoring him and also so he gets annoyed at my answers.

i was thinking to tell him that i want to split up as i cant forgive him for what he done to my kids or me. no hard feelings and he should move onto someone more suited to him. leave it at that.

i dont have the girls next week so i was planning doing it the week they were away.

OP posts:
Comtesse · 10/01/2023 15:47

He sounds terrible. Those horrible comments after your xmas party. LTB you and your girls do not deserve this Flowers

Mummyof287 · 10/01/2023 15:57

Nothing you've said about him sounds 'nice' despite you repeatedly using that word to describe him.
Which tells me more than anything that you are a victim of coercive control here.
He is clearly very abusive, to you and to your children.Don't let him continue to damage them, it will only get worse.Leave now and rebuild your lives without this idiot.

LouLou900 · 10/01/2023 15:59

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:06

hi there, this is probably going to be quite long winded so i appologise in advance but feel i need to go into detail in order to get peoples thoughts. i have been with my partner for 2.5 years and we have lived together for 1 year. i have two girls 10 and 6 and he has no children. my kids see their dad and child arrangement is 5050. my partner helps me financially and overall is great with the kids, espeically my youngest. they have developed a great relationship.

my oldest has always had behavioral issues, its not like she is punching walls or physically abusive but she is very full on, loud, bad tempered etc. her heart is in the right place and she sees the error of her behaviors but she is getting serious talks every few months of what her behavior is doing. i try to be as close as i can to her and listen to any issues or concerns she has. basically her heart is in the right place but she can be very cheeky such as eye rolling talking back, general disobedience but it is hard working when it happens 80-90% of the time. my partner struggles with my oldest dd behavior and i sympathize and try my hardest to keep the peace and discipline also.

my partners idea of family and mines are both the same. the girls dad was a functioning alcoholic as i like to call it. most of our issues came down to his level of drinking and inability to control himself. i didnt want my kids being brought up like that. their dad has moved onto a new partner now and seems to have matured and calmed down and refrain from acting like that while girls are there.

i really just want a quiet family life and my partner wants the same. on and off i have felt he was abit dramatic with arguments and could mage huge issues out of non issues. he does admit that when he thinks someone is unfair or not nice to him that he does explode and it is somethingt he has tried to change about his character but he just cant do it. when nothing is annoying him he is the nicest caring man. i feel that he is happy as long as things are his way. i feel i am ranting so i am going to write some scenarios of arguments

  • told the dds we would go to cinema and next day he said it was too late and we werent going. because i disagreed and said yes we are i told the kids we are and i wont dissapoint them. this transpired that i am selfish and speaking down to him and i am a bad woman and parent.
  • he arranged a hamster for my oldest daughter last year which i was against but now we planned to move he told her oh we arent taking the hamster when we move. i told him this wasnt fair on my oldest and we had to keep it until it died and he was to learn a lesson not to get animals again and that we cant change minds like that especially when kids are involved. he turned this into i wasnt backing him up and i love a hamster more than him.
  • gets annoyed if the girls make any noise when he wants silence. said they are selfish for not respecting the fact he works. says the same for morning times at the weekend. it has to be quiet until he wakes up. if they have a genuine problem then that is ok but otherwise to see to themselves until we wake up.

on some notes i can see his point as in kids respecting adults rules etc, the kids helping me so they learn how to jobs around the house. he is pretty old fashioned which i am ok with traditional values to a certain point. i cook clean iron do everything and he will offer help. what i dont like is when we have an argument he will criticise everything i do. calls me a bad mum, says the house lacks woman presence, im disrespectful of his wishes, i only think about myself. i didnt buy the right oil the other day and he accused me of starving him cause he couldnt cook eggs. he comments i have a bad attitude if i am not 100% smiley all the time. i feel i am rambling and not giving any context but it is so difficult to pinpoint. he has told me on many occasions that he can do better than me, my parents should be thanking him for taking me and my kids on board when he is such an amazing guy, says he is cleaner than me, knows more about my kids than me, smarter than me, i am to poor for him, i am using him for a house, i dont love or respect him. alot of his behaviour is really concerning me the more i think of it i think he is quite narcasisstic. i hate saying this because i hear it all the time on tv etc. i feel i try my absolute hardest but no matter what i do it will always be me being the failure. he says everything that we argue about is from my side and not his.

we had an argument the other day in relation to the cinema saga. ended a screaming match and him saying to the kids we arent taking the new house because of you and your sister. its all your fault girls. he ignored everyone stamped around, locked me out the bedroom. was shouting saying the kids are unmannered and disrespectful kids and that he would never raise kids like how i have. said i am a failure and a joke as a mother. my 6 year old was distraught and still is by this. she was truly heartbroken and i keep replaying it in my head. he was messaging from the other room saying i dont love him and everyone hates him. i ignored him . he later came through and apologised to my youngest and said sometimes adults disagree and we say things we dont mean and appologiesed gave her a kiss and a cuddle. he said he loves the kids but it is difficult, more so with the oldest.

there has been other issues such as i feel i cant see friends i get nervous approaching the subject as he will say i dont love him or i am not a family orientated person because my mind is only on friends. i have cancelled so many nights out. it is my cousins party next month which all girls care going to including my mum and gran and i am feeling sick at the thought of the saying to him. he acts cool until it is approaching then will cause arguments then say i dont care about him because i chose to go on a night out instead of fixing the relationship. he will comment sayinng oh why dont you meet your friends for a coffee or something. i now feel it is all fake the niceness and that he knows how to play the good guy perfectly.

at my work christmas party i was looking forward to, he acted fine until he seen me dressed up. told me we will speak in the morning and that we are over because i am a cheat. text arguing the whole night with me. told me he wo9uld pick me up and collected me early, refused to take my friend home as he had offered and drove of crazy with rage. he told me at home he could smell dick breath and all this nonsense and stormed off to bed. later that night he apologised and said he g ot jealous and doesnt want to lose me. i just feel everything is abnormal now.

i am definately no angel and i can have a temper and be wrong at times yes, it is human. i feel ground down to nothing like i have lost part of my personality. my stomach has been nervous for over a week now as it has been on and off arguments. he will say i dont want to lose you and then have an attitude and be looking on rightmove but then 20 mins later turn round saying he was just looking in general and he isnt in a mood. its playing with my mind.

am i over thinking everything ?? i really cant work it out if i am this bad selfish person and i just cant see it or if its both of us. i feel scared and sick with it all. i want to protect my children also. i feel alone and confused. everyone thinks he is the best guy ever, polite well mannered calm quite quiet.he can be the best guy but quoting his own words " i can be a bastard if you want the bastard"

sorry this has rambled on with no actual context. i just feel so confused and scared with the thought of am i so crazy i cant see how bad i am or is it him??

thank you for anyone that takes the time to read!

Hi, OP, your post nearly made me cry. I feel so bad for you and your girls. My cousin entered a relationship very much like this when her girls were similar ages to your daughters but she didn't leave him. He ended up ruining their childhood. They ended up in abusive relationships themselves and now they have children with these abusive partners who are now going through what they went through as children. Pertinent to note also that they have never forgiven their mum for allowing her boyfriend to treat them that way. Cousin's relationship with both DD is extremely fractured as a result. Walk away now. Pack his stuff, go to the police and arrange for them to be there when he comes home. Dont let your DDs (or you) suffer another minute of this vile behaviour. Sending hugs, OP.

gamerchick · 10/01/2023 15:59

The bloke is an utter prick OP. Protect your kids ffs. Show the daft twat the door and shut it behind him.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 16:02

Mummyof287 · 10/01/2023 15:57

Nothing you've said about him sounds 'nice' despite you repeatedly using that word to describe him.
Which tells me more than anything that you are a victim of coercive control here.
He is clearly very abusive, to you and to your children.Don't let him continue to damage them, it will only get worse.Leave now and rebuild your lives without this idiot.

what exactly is that? i feel ive been living in a bubble and see all this wrong stuff i cant unsee. i feel sad with myself

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Justcallmebebes · 10/01/2023 16:03

Jesus Christ. Put your kids first instead of some man you have brought into their life to abuse them. This is no substitute "father". They'd be better off without one at all and you should do the Freedom Programme.

Am I right in that he moved into your house? Kick him out. Total loser

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 16:04

LouLou900 · 10/01/2023 15:59

Hi, OP, your post nearly made me cry. I feel so bad for you and your girls. My cousin entered a relationship very much like this when her girls were similar ages to your daughters but she didn't leave him. He ended up ruining their childhood. They ended up in abusive relationships themselves and now they have children with these abusive partners who are now going through what they went through as children. Pertinent to note also that they have never forgiven their mum for allowing her boyfriend to treat them that way. Cousin's relationship with both DD is extremely fractured as a result. Walk away now. Pack his stuff, go to the police and arrange for them to be there when he comes home. Dont let your DDs (or you) suffer another minute of this vile behaviour. Sending hugs, OP.

thats exactly what i want to avoid. i feel as the kids get older it is only going to get worse. arguments are becoming more and more frequent. i just want to protect my kids. they have seen enough arguments. he will always play the victim and i will be the bad guy when i know ive done nothing wrong now really. ive supported and ran myself to the ground.

OP posts:
Greatly · 10/01/2023 16:07

He sounds like a complete twat. Good luck OP you sound lovely and so do your dds. You all deserve more than this.

ClaryFairchild · 10/01/2023 16:19

Get your girls to your ex's for a week as soon as possible, then take the day off work without telling him, pack his stuff up and either tell him over the phone that his stuff is packed up outside, or have someone you trust with you when you tell him at home that he has to leave.

Do not give him notice, he can find a travel lodge or something for a couple of nights if he needs. His living arrangements are not your concern anymore. If you give him notice he will subject you to emotional torture until you no longer have the strength to kick him out.

Alcemeg · 10/01/2023 16:37

You sound brave and strong, OP. Well done for getting as far as working all this out. Please look up coercive control, if you haven't already.

smell dick breath actually made me feel sick on your behalf. How dare he treat you this way, and in the million and one other ways he clearly makes your life a misery!

Good luck with breaking free from this monster. Flowers

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