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not sure if i am being dramatic and overlooking. scared of my partner a little. i need advice asap please

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scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:06

hi there, this is probably going to be quite long winded so i appologise in advance but feel i need to go into detail in order to get peoples thoughts. i have been with my partner for 2.5 years and we have lived together for 1 year. i have two girls 10 and 6 and he has no children. my kids see their dad and child arrangement is 5050. my partner helps me financially and overall is great with the kids, espeically my youngest. they have developed a great relationship.

my oldest has always had behavioral issues, its not like she is punching walls or physically abusive but she is very full on, loud, bad tempered etc. her heart is in the right place and she sees the error of her behaviors but she is getting serious talks every few months of what her behavior is doing. i try to be as close as i can to her and listen to any issues or concerns she has. basically her heart is in the right place but she can be very cheeky such as eye rolling talking back, general disobedience but it is hard working when it happens 80-90% of the time. my partner struggles with my oldest dd behavior and i sympathize and try my hardest to keep the peace and discipline also.

my partners idea of family and mines are both the same. the girls dad was a functioning alcoholic as i like to call it. most of our issues came down to his level of drinking and inability to control himself. i didnt want my kids being brought up like that. their dad has moved onto a new partner now and seems to have matured and calmed down and refrain from acting like that while girls are there.

i really just want a quiet family life and my partner wants the same. on and off i have felt he was abit dramatic with arguments and could mage huge issues out of non issues. he does admit that when he thinks someone is unfair or not nice to him that he does explode and it is somethingt he has tried to change about his character but he just cant do it. when nothing is annoying him he is the nicest caring man. i feel that he is happy as long as things are his way. i feel i am ranting so i am going to write some scenarios of arguments

  • told the dds we would go to cinema and next day he said it was too late and we werent going. because i disagreed and said yes we are i told the kids we are and i wont dissapoint them. this transpired that i am selfish and speaking down to him and i am a bad woman and parent.
  • he arranged a hamster for my oldest daughter last year which i was against but now we planned to move he told her oh we arent taking the hamster when we move. i told him this wasnt fair on my oldest and we had to keep it until it died and he was to learn a lesson not to get animals again and that we cant change minds like that especially when kids are involved. he turned this into i wasnt backing him up and i love a hamster more than him.
  • gets annoyed if the girls make any noise when he wants silence. said they are selfish for not respecting the fact he works. says the same for morning times at the weekend. it has to be quiet until he wakes up. if they have a genuine problem then that is ok but otherwise to see to themselves until we wake up.

on some notes i can see his point as in kids respecting adults rules etc, the kids helping me so they learn how to jobs around the house. he is pretty old fashioned which i am ok with traditional values to a certain point. i cook clean iron do everything and he will offer help. what i dont like is when we have an argument he will criticise everything i do. calls me a bad mum, says the house lacks woman presence, im disrespectful of his wishes, i only think about myself. i didnt buy the right oil the other day and he accused me of starving him cause he couldnt cook eggs. he comments i have a bad attitude if i am not 100% smiley all the time. i feel i am rambling and not giving any context but it is so difficult to pinpoint. he has told me on many occasions that he can do better than me, my parents should be thanking him for taking me and my kids on board when he is such an amazing guy, says he is cleaner than me, knows more about my kids than me, smarter than me, i am to poor for him, i am using him for a house, i dont love or respect him. alot of his behaviour is really concerning me the more i think of it i think he is quite narcasisstic. i hate saying this because i hear it all the time on tv etc. i feel i try my absolute hardest but no matter what i do it will always be me being the failure. he says everything that we argue about is from my side and not his.

we had an argument the other day in relation to the cinema saga. ended a screaming match and him saying to the kids we arent taking the new house because of you and your sister. its all your fault girls. he ignored everyone stamped around, locked me out the bedroom. was shouting saying the kids are unmannered and disrespectful kids and that he would never raise kids like how i have. said i am a failure and a joke as a mother. my 6 year old was distraught and still is by this. she was truly heartbroken and i keep replaying it in my head. he was messaging from the other room saying i dont love him and everyone hates him. i ignored him . he later came through and apologised to my youngest and said sometimes adults disagree and we say things we dont mean and appologiesed gave her a kiss and a cuddle. he said he loves the kids but it is difficult, more so with the oldest.

there has been other issues such as i feel i cant see friends i get nervous approaching the subject as he will say i dont love him or i am not a family orientated person because my mind is only on friends. i have cancelled so many nights out. it is my cousins party next month which all girls care going to including my mum and gran and i am feeling sick at the thought of the saying to him. he acts cool until it is approaching then will cause arguments then say i dont care about him because i chose to go on a night out instead of fixing the relationship. he will comment sayinng oh why dont you meet your friends for a coffee or something. i now feel it is all fake the niceness and that he knows how to play the good guy perfectly.

at my work christmas party i was looking forward to, he acted fine until he seen me dressed up. told me we will speak in the morning and that we are over because i am a cheat. text arguing the whole night with me. told me he wo9uld pick me up and collected me early, refused to take my friend home as he had offered and drove of crazy with rage. he told me at home he could smell dick breath and all this nonsense and stormed off to bed. later that night he apologised and said he g ot jealous and doesnt want to lose me. i just feel everything is abnormal now.

i am definately no angel and i can have a temper and be wrong at times yes, it is human. i feel ground down to nothing like i have lost part of my personality. my stomach has been nervous for over a week now as it has been on and off arguments. he will say i dont want to lose you and then have an attitude and be looking on rightmove but then 20 mins later turn round saying he was just looking in general and he isnt in a mood. its playing with my mind.

am i over thinking everything ?? i really cant work it out if i am this bad selfish person and i just cant see it or if its both of us. i feel scared and sick with it all. i want to protect my children also. i feel alone and confused. everyone thinks he is the best guy ever, polite well mannered calm quite quiet.he can be the best guy but quoting his own words " i can be a bastard if you want the bastard"

sorry this has rambled on with no actual context. i just feel so confused and scared with the thought of am i so crazy i cant see how bad i am or is it him??

thank you for anyone that takes the time to read!

OP posts:
AnuSTart · 10/01/2023 22:33

My heart just broke reading that @scottishmum2022

You and all the other women out there who are lying in their beds feeling stressed and bullied and not good enough.

You have one way out otherwise living with the bully is your life _and the kids lives.
And then it ends when you die and the kids repeat the cycle with their bully.

Sad but true. Only you can change it

QueenCamilla · 10/01/2023 22:41

I got out the day he involved my small son. Actually called him into the argument and asked a 4yo to si and watch "his mummy going crazy". I left that day.

We got picked up the same day by my ex husband, the 4 year olds dad.
Please get the girl's dad involved to get the bastard out. They usually need to know you're not all alone without any backing...

IAmJob84 · 10/01/2023 22:48

Hi OP, I can feel your anxiety in your post. I'm so sorry you're feeling this way. What if you suggested a temp break to ' clear the air'....he's of course not going to be happy losing his grip of control on you, but might not be enough for full blown confronted straight away? I feel like once you get a safe spot away from him and environment he createa, you will really see what he's been doing to you. You'll find your strength again and can make things more permanent. It feels like you are still doubting yourself ( exactly what these types create) but I bet once you get space you'll get your own perspective back and feel able to back yourself! I'd recommend getting in touch with woman's aid for that support also. If you feel scares, that is a very real and valid feeling for you and would be best to reach out. Good luck and keep posting xxxx

IAmJob84 · 10/01/2023 22:48

*confrontation

emptythelitterbox · 10/01/2023 23:02

It does sound like he's escalating.

When he goes to work tomorrow call women's aid, make a report to the police saying you're asking an abusive man to leave your home.

Pack his bags while he's at work and set his stuff outside. Change your locks.
Then text him that's it over and his belongings are outside.

Do not tell him in person it's over. It's too dangerous.

He shows up. Do not open the door to him no matter what he says.

This is the highest time for abusers to kick off and beat you or murder you.

jeaux90 · 10/01/2023 23:02

OP you know you need to kick him out.

Let me explain the situation with his personality.

The shit person is who he really is.

The nice person you said he can be is the pretend thing he does to reel you back in.

He is an abusive bully. He isn't nice at all. It's a lie.

I'm a single mum. I can tell you your life will be so much nice without him in it.

Mummyof287 · 10/01/2023 23:04

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 16:02

what exactly is that? i feel ive been living in a bubble and see all this wrong stuff i cant unsee. i feel sad with myself

Coercive control is an act or a pattern of acts of assault, threats, humiliation and intimidation or other abuse that is used to harm, punish, or frighten their victim.

It can happen very gradually as abusers are clever, so that's probably why you found it hard to see until you stepped away and looked at it from hearing other people's viewpoints.I am glad you are starting to see him for who he really is.Please act now and protect your children (and yourself) from further harm.There are many organisations that can help you xx

Mummyof287 · 10/01/2023 23:08

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 16:57

You really can't underestimate the impact this will have on your girls. My DD really brought it home to me when she split with her fiance a few years ago. He wasn't abusive, just a bit of a dick sometimes and she just didn't like how he treated her. He kept telling her there was nothing wrong with what he did. But she wouldn't accept that because whenever she doubted her boundaries she'd ask herself how would dad treat mum in that situation. And that's how she decided her fiance wasn't good enough. Dad wouldn't have done/said that.

Aww that's really lovely ❤️

Ghostbuster2639 · 10/01/2023 23:10

It’s really simple op, ring the police and tell them you want him gone but he won’t go. They’ll ensure he leaves.

JadeandGreen · 10/01/2023 23:34

I don't post an awful lot, but I couldn't not post on this.

Please, please, get this man out of your house!

I have been where you are, not exactly the same obviously, but the emotional abuse, the control, the blaming you, please believe me this is never going to change.

The impact on your daughters will be huge.

I know how scary this can be, when I left at first I had nightmares that he was breaking into the house with a gun, but honestly, separating the stress of splitting with him, the peace you will feel with your girls will be worth it. The freedom to just be yourself. The freedom to enjoy your girls. The freedom to not spend your life walking on eggshells in case you say or do something wrong.

It was a long time ago I went through this and my children are adults now, but the effects of it stay with you on some unconscious level.

I will be thinking of you! Be brave Flowers Wishing you the best of luck x

2bazookas · 11/01/2023 00:03

He's a control freak emotionally abusing you and your children; get rid of him before he damages their mental health and yours.

2bazookas · 11/01/2023 00:08

Scottish, is there any chance your ex would give you a little back up to get rid of this man, who is threatening his children?

LexMitior · 11/01/2023 00:09

Get rid of this "man" immediately.

He probably is playing out his own terrible childhood in your home. He is immature and cruel.

Pinkbonbon · 11/01/2023 00:49

What in the holy hell did I just read!
He's exceedingly emotionally abusive. Get away from him and keep him away from your daughters.

That aside (and once you've dealt with the most pressing problem of an abusive partner) - I would stop saying 'oh her heart is in the right place' of a kid who is disruptive and backchat-y 80-90% of the time. Don't make excuses like that now or you'll never be done making making later. She isn't 4 years old, she knows better. You best get this under control before she hits teen years. Or, well, you're screwed.

Seriously though I'd bet her behaviour will improve once he is gone. He's probably the cause of it anyway. But you do need to address nasty behaviour from her properly either way, and not baby her with excuses. You'd probably be wise to get her to therapy ASAP one way or another. Because in a few years time if this behaviour continues...there will be no fixing it.

Chantelle302412 · 11/01/2023 00:57

He is no good and you need to get him out for yourself and your children. I would wait till he went to work pack his things change the locks and get anybody you can that you know to stay with you for a while or you leave for a night or so if he can’t break in.

it’s yours and your babies home don’t let this man make it anymore miserable than he already has.

cinnamonpearl · 11/01/2023 01:00

Your updates just get worse and worse.

You have no intention of leaving him do you?!

Pinkbonbon · 11/01/2023 01:01

Ps: I don't mean be hard on her as she's only young. But you need to be aware kids in abusive households often grow up to be abused or -become abusers themselves. And you don't want to get rid of one, only to be raising another. Because in a few years when she's kicking holes in doors and screaming at you, you'll wish you'd acted sooner.

Hopefully it won't come to that of course!

ZekeZeke · 11/01/2023 04:38

I hope you find the strength to leave him.
You are being abused and your daughters are witnesses to this abuse.

Zanatdy · 11/01/2023 05:18

You need to leave this relationship. Trust me it will get worse with your oldest. Been there, got the T-shirt. He is a narcissist, 100%. He has no right to accuse you of things when you’re seeing friends. Totally out of order, his behaviour is out of control and it’s going to get worse and worse and your children will be subjected to more and more arguments like the other the other day. To say your children have to be silent until he wakes? Not taking the hamster? Please leave this loser or your kids won’t thank you in the future for making them grow up with a narcissist. Wait until your oldest is a teen, he won’t cope at all with teenage drama’s.

Zanatdy · 11/01/2023 05:35

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 18:09

This one actually got me upset because you are so right. My dad is the kindest most gentle caring man and I could never imagine him shouting at my mum or in thr house in general like that. Your daughter was very brave and smart.

The scary thing for me is that my partners "good personality " Is that person. My mum and gran think the sun shines out his ass. It's like a split personality and I can't comprehend it all

My ex is like this. People at his work or his friends wouldn’t actually believe it if I told them what he did to my teenage son, and why I left him. He has a split personality too, and I’ve told him he should get help for dealing with this side of him as he can be such a nice guy, and then he really lets himself down with this nasty streak. I always said I blamed his mother as she’s definitely got a nasty streak but his 2 brothers are not like this. And I guess I don’t know them like I know my ex so who knows what goes on behind close doors.

It makes you doubt yourself as other people thinks they are amazing, but no-one knows what goes on behind closed doors so you really can’t go based on what other people see. He’s not a nice person. Maybe he is struggling dealing with kids if he’s never had any, but that doesn’t excuse the jealousy, saying things like you have dick breathe. That’s disgusting and he’s clearly very jealous. Don’t hesitate to contact the police if you need to. Definitely recommend contacting women’s aid too for advice as they can advise you on best ways to end it to protect yourself. Good luck - keep us updated

Emilia35 · 11/01/2023 05:54

I'm so glad you will ask him to leave, OP. However I beg you to be careful when you do this. The person you've described sounds identical to my own father, including identical jealousy over my mum going out with friends, everyone else thinking he was brilliant since narcissists can be great at manipulating people.

When my mum tried to end it, things escalated very quickly. These types of controlling men HATE losing control. He tried to strangle her. If not for my 2 year old brother crying at their door scared of the shouting, she may have ended up really injured.

Please please have someone with you or waiting outside. Don't put yourself at risk. This man is showing all the signs of an emotional abuser, which can easily escalate to physical abuse.

Wishing you all the best.

Motherofalittledragon · 11/01/2023 05:57

Those poor children living with him, protect your children and leave him

Downunderduchess · 11/01/2023 05:59

You had me at hamster, what monster would leave a pet behind when they moved like it was an unwanted household item?? Get rid of him.

ObsidianBlock · 11/01/2023 06:06

You and your daughter's are being abused and bullied by this piece of shit. He needs to leave and the relationship must end. Your poor daughters.

autienotnaughty · 11/01/2023 06:07

Pack his stuff. Change the locks. Tell family what's it's been like so they can support you. Call the police if needed.