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not sure if i am being dramatic and overlooking. scared of my partner a little. i need advice asap please

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scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:06

hi there, this is probably going to be quite long winded so i appologise in advance but feel i need to go into detail in order to get peoples thoughts. i have been with my partner for 2.5 years and we have lived together for 1 year. i have two girls 10 and 6 and he has no children. my kids see their dad and child arrangement is 5050. my partner helps me financially and overall is great with the kids, espeically my youngest. they have developed a great relationship.

my oldest has always had behavioral issues, its not like she is punching walls or physically abusive but she is very full on, loud, bad tempered etc. her heart is in the right place and she sees the error of her behaviors but she is getting serious talks every few months of what her behavior is doing. i try to be as close as i can to her and listen to any issues or concerns she has. basically her heart is in the right place but she can be very cheeky such as eye rolling talking back, general disobedience but it is hard working when it happens 80-90% of the time. my partner struggles with my oldest dd behavior and i sympathize and try my hardest to keep the peace and discipline also.

my partners idea of family and mines are both the same. the girls dad was a functioning alcoholic as i like to call it. most of our issues came down to his level of drinking and inability to control himself. i didnt want my kids being brought up like that. their dad has moved onto a new partner now and seems to have matured and calmed down and refrain from acting like that while girls are there.

i really just want a quiet family life and my partner wants the same. on and off i have felt he was abit dramatic with arguments and could mage huge issues out of non issues. he does admit that when he thinks someone is unfair or not nice to him that he does explode and it is somethingt he has tried to change about his character but he just cant do it. when nothing is annoying him he is the nicest caring man. i feel that he is happy as long as things are his way. i feel i am ranting so i am going to write some scenarios of arguments

  • told the dds we would go to cinema and next day he said it was too late and we werent going. because i disagreed and said yes we are i told the kids we are and i wont dissapoint them. this transpired that i am selfish and speaking down to him and i am a bad woman and parent.
  • he arranged a hamster for my oldest daughter last year which i was against but now we planned to move he told her oh we arent taking the hamster when we move. i told him this wasnt fair on my oldest and we had to keep it until it died and he was to learn a lesson not to get animals again and that we cant change minds like that especially when kids are involved. he turned this into i wasnt backing him up and i love a hamster more than him.
  • gets annoyed if the girls make any noise when he wants silence. said they are selfish for not respecting the fact he works. says the same for morning times at the weekend. it has to be quiet until he wakes up. if they have a genuine problem then that is ok but otherwise to see to themselves until we wake up.

on some notes i can see his point as in kids respecting adults rules etc, the kids helping me so they learn how to jobs around the house. he is pretty old fashioned which i am ok with traditional values to a certain point. i cook clean iron do everything and he will offer help. what i dont like is when we have an argument he will criticise everything i do. calls me a bad mum, says the house lacks woman presence, im disrespectful of his wishes, i only think about myself. i didnt buy the right oil the other day and he accused me of starving him cause he couldnt cook eggs. he comments i have a bad attitude if i am not 100% smiley all the time. i feel i am rambling and not giving any context but it is so difficult to pinpoint. he has told me on many occasions that he can do better than me, my parents should be thanking him for taking me and my kids on board when he is such an amazing guy, says he is cleaner than me, knows more about my kids than me, smarter than me, i am to poor for him, i am using him for a house, i dont love or respect him. alot of his behaviour is really concerning me the more i think of it i think he is quite narcasisstic. i hate saying this because i hear it all the time on tv etc. i feel i try my absolute hardest but no matter what i do it will always be me being the failure. he says everything that we argue about is from my side and not his.

we had an argument the other day in relation to the cinema saga. ended a screaming match and him saying to the kids we arent taking the new house because of you and your sister. its all your fault girls. he ignored everyone stamped around, locked me out the bedroom. was shouting saying the kids are unmannered and disrespectful kids and that he would never raise kids like how i have. said i am a failure and a joke as a mother. my 6 year old was distraught and still is by this. she was truly heartbroken and i keep replaying it in my head. he was messaging from the other room saying i dont love him and everyone hates him. i ignored him . he later came through and apologised to my youngest and said sometimes adults disagree and we say things we dont mean and appologiesed gave her a kiss and a cuddle. he said he loves the kids but it is difficult, more so with the oldest.

there has been other issues such as i feel i cant see friends i get nervous approaching the subject as he will say i dont love him or i am not a family orientated person because my mind is only on friends. i have cancelled so many nights out. it is my cousins party next month which all girls care going to including my mum and gran and i am feeling sick at the thought of the saying to him. he acts cool until it is approaching then will cause arguments then say i dont care about him because i chose to go on a night out instead of fixing the relationship. he will comment sayinng oh why dont you meet your friends for a coffee or something. i now feel it is all fake the niceness and that he knows how to play the good guy perfectly.

at my work christmas party i was looking forward to, he acted fine until he seen me dressed up. told me we will speak in the morning and that we are over because i am a cheat. text arguing the whole night with me. told me he wo9uld pick me up and collected me early, refused to take my friend home as he had offered and drove of crazy with rage. he told me at home he could smell dick breath and all this nonsense and stormed off to bed. later that night he apologised and said he g ot jealous and doesnt want to lose me. i just feel everything is abnormal now.

i am definately no angel and i can have a temper and be wrong at times yes, it is human. i feel ground down to nothing like i have lost part of my personality. my stomach has been nervous for over a week now as it has been on and off arguments. he will say i dont want to lose you and then have an attitude and be looking on rightmove but then 20 mins later turn round saying he was just looking in general and he isnt in a mood. its playing with my mind.

am i over thinking everything ?? i really cant work it out if i am this bad selfish person and i just cant see it or if its both of us. i feel scared and sick with it all. i want to protect my children also. i feel alone and confused. everyone thinks he is the best guy ever, polite well mannered calm quite quiet.he can be the best guy but quoting his own words " i can be a bastard if you want the bastard"

sorry this has rambled on with no actual context. i just feel so confused and scared with the thought of am i so crazy i cant see how bad i am or is it him??

thank you for anyone that takes the time to read!

OP posts:
Twillow · 10/01/2023 16:43

Jealousy and possessiveness. It's abusive. Especially the Christmas party incident, that's a real red flag.
I'm sorry but it won't improve, you'll always get blamed and you are at the fortunate point of starting to see the light. Don't let your children suffer with this manchild or allow yourself to lose who you are through restricting your own behaviour.
Go to your cousin's party and with a cool head observe how he behaves. If he's being a dick, take someone in your family into your confidence at that party as a starting point.

BridieConvert · 10/01/2023 16:48

it is a total head fuck and i am scared of what attitude he will have tonight when he comes in from work. i feel the more i look into things i feel he is incredibly child like.*
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Get rid of him. You are on eggshells around him not sure whether you are getting the nice guy act or the abuser.

He is an abusive, controlling narcissist and you need him out of your life both for you and your girls' sakes.

He is gaslighting you into thinking it is your fault and you are the problem. It is not and you are not.

If you feel like you can't turn to family/your ex are there friends you can have around to support you? Or please contact women's aid.
You need this man dickhead out of your house ASAP.

Mydogisanaughtyboy · 10/01/2023 16:55

My God he sounds incredibly immature and emotionally manipulative. This could damage your kids going forward. I would be telling him to move his stuff out pronto.

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 16:57

You really can't underestimate the impact this will have on your girls. My DD really brought it home to me when she split with her fiance a few years ago. He wasn't abusive, just a bit of a dick sometimes and she just didn't like how he treated her. He kept telling her there was nothing wrong with what he did. But she wouldn't accept that because whenever she doubted her boundaries she'd ask herself how would dad treat mum in that situation. And that's how she decided her fiance wasn't good enough. Dad wouldn't have done/said that.

stopringingme · 10/01/2023 17:42

I don't usually comment on these threads but this situation is horrific - please leave and don't look back, at best he is a manchild at worst he is an abusive arsehole.

He has certainly been playing you and you should not have your children living in this situation.

Please leave for all your sakes.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 18:07

stopringingme · 10/01/2023 17:42

I don't usually comment on these threads but this situation is horrific - please leave and don't look back, at best he is a manchild at worst he is an abusive arsehole.

He has certainly been playing you and you should not have your children living in this situation.

Please leave for all your sakes.

I feel so sad that I've been so blind. I'm scared for my kids because they love him aswell. It's really messed up.

My kids go to ther dads on Friday for the week so i am going to tell him then that i am done.

When he says the nasty stuff after we discuss it all he says he only says the stuff in anger and he doesn't believe it at all. He knows fine well it is wrong. I really so feel on egg shells now. Especially after the dragging my kids into it. That put the nail in the coffin for me.

OP posts:
scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 18:09

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 16:57

You really can't underestimate the impact this will have on your girls. My DD really brought it home to me when she split with her fiance a few years ago. He wasn't abusive, just a bit of a dick sometimes and she just didn't like how he treated her. He kept telling her there was nothing wrong with what he did. But she wouldn't accept that because whenever she doubted her boundaries she'd ask herself how would dad treat mum in that situation. And that's how she decided her fiance wasn't good enough. Dad wouldn't have done/said that.

This one actually got me upset because you are so right. My dad is the kindest most gentle caring man and I could never imagine him shouting at my mum or in thr house in general like that. Your daughter was very brave and smart.

The scary thing for me is that my partners "good personality " Is that person. My mum and gran think the sun shines out his ass. It's like a split personality and I can't comprehend it all

OP posts:
PollyAmour · 10/01/2023 18:16

Talk to your mum and gran. Tell them exactly what you wrote in your OP. Tell them how it is impacting you and your daughters. Ask them to help you get away from this toxic mess of a man.

Don't let him try to wheedle his way back into your life, he's a loser and an abuser, and you and your girls deserve so much better.

Alcemeg · 10/01/2023 18:23

Please don't beat yourself up OP, as humans we are all vulnerable to a wolf in sheep's clothing, especially when our own nature is fundamentally kind and good!

You should be really, REALLY proud of yourself for grasping what's really going on, in a situation where many of us would struggle. And for decisively acting to protect your children, where many women prefer to turn a blind eye.

You deserve a medal. And you deserve a happy life. And I hope you get it soon.

Dery · 10/01/2023 18:30

“Get your girls to your ex's for a week as soon as possible, then take the day off work without telling him, pack his stuff up and either tell him over the phone that his stuff is packed up outside, or have someone you trust with you when you tell him at home that he has to leave.

Do not give him notice, he can find a travel lodge or something for a couple of nights if he needs. His living arrangements are not your concern anymore. If you give him notice he will subject you to emotional torture until you no longer have the strength to kick him out.”

This. Let the local police know you’re asking your abusive partner to leave and may need to call on them for help.

You need someone with you during the process of him leaving (friend or relative). You can put his stuff outside for him to collect. The police can come with him to collect the rest. Above all, make sure there are other adults around. Have someone stay with you for a while after he’s gone. Find a new flat ASAP.

Alexandernevermind · 10/01/2023 18:32

Please people, don't tell op her bar is low or blame her for allowing this. Can't you see her self esteem is already on the floor from this abusive man.
@scottishmum2022 it sounds as though you have made the right decision. We know it isn't easy, but you and your girls deserve better. If you loose focus remind yourself that he is teaching your girls what to accept in a relationship. Get advice from Women's Aid, assuming there is one in Scotland, and don't be frightened to call the police if you feel threatened.

Emmamoo89 · 10/01/2023 18:39

Leave him! He's an arsehole

TragicMuse · 10/01/2023 18:49

It doesn't matter what your mum and family think of him, they aren't the ones living with him.

I know you think it matters, but it doesn't. If they say anything you can just say 'he wasn't always the person you saw, there was another side to him that I didn't like and I didn't want for my children.' And they can't force you to have a relationship with him.

But seriously, he needs to be dumped. You deserve more than this waste of your time and energy. And so do your girls.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 10/01/2023 18:51

"wouldn't want to bring this onto my parents. I am scared as I truly don't know what he is capable of if he is angry."
That sentence says it all. You and your kids shouldn't have to put up with someone whose behaviour scares you.
Please make sure you have someone there with you when you tell him to go. The girls will get over him leaving when they have a happier more stable atmosphere at home.

SausageInCider · 10/01/2023 19:09

You really need to start putting your kids first. You won’t let on to your parents what’s going on but you expect your kids to deal with it. That’s all kinds of wrong. Good that you have a plan but you need to follow through with it and then not move another man in

Maytodecember · 10/01/2023 19:41

Doesn’t matter what he was like when younger, with other gf etc… He’s abusive to you and your children. He should NEVER badmouth their father, no matter what he thinks of him.
Suggest you contact Women’s Aid for advice. Or you could pack a bag for him, put it outside ( somewhere dry, we’re not being horrible here). Have the locks changed before he picks up his stuff. Stick a note on your door “ your bags are here. Leave quietly. Any disturbance and I will call the police” You could alert the police in advance, depending on resources they can be supportive.

Don’t fall for the “I’ll be gone in a few months” he’s damaging your dc every day he’s there.

HoneyIShrunkThePizza · 10/01/2023 20:14

He needs to go.

My mum subjected us to abusive men for all my teenage years - similar to the stuff you've recounted - and I'm low contact with her now as I can't forgive her, especially now I have children myself.

Change the locks. Block him. If he turns up, call the police. Yes, it will be hard but you are damaging your girls right now. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but it's the reality.

Have you thought about calling women's aid?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 10/01/2023 20:25

Emmamoo89 · 10/01/2023 18:39

Leave him! He's an arsehole

Indeed. I'd prefer the hamster 🐹

user1471442488 · 10/01/2023 20:34

Those poor little girls

LightSpeeds · 10/01/2023 20:45

Please protect your children and get rid of him.

scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 20:49

Yous are all right and I really do feel he has been a wolf dressed as a sheep as the previous poster said.

Tonight he has came in first thing he said to me was " u couldn't even take bins out" then 2 seconds later it was " u haven't cooked or cleaned or done anything " He then went into inspect the girls bedroom and commented why their bedcover was on the floor and said it was dirty.

I csnt wait for Friday now . The girls are at school and clubs tomorrow so won't see much of him. I feel after these comments I can see it more clearly . He plays thr good guy when it suits him.

OP posts:
scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 20:52

Which may I add I've done loads and prepard his Lunches. I know myself and I need to stop doubting myself now I think. Be strong

OP posts:
Mummy2B1983 · 10/01/2023 20:59

Definitely leave him! He is trying to destroy your confidence! Don't let him do this to you and your girls! He is emotionally abusing you.

Get out. Sending big hugs to you. X

PerpetualFailure · 10/01/2023 22:24

Hey OP. I think you need professional health from a women's charity or a family member / friend. I am worried this guy is going to go ape-shit crazy. Please look after yourself and your daughters. Also, if your DDs disclose his behaviour then surely services will want to get involved. It is really serious and you should prioritise your children's long-term health. It might be hard for your little one now, but it is not appropriate for her to be close to such a dangerous man. Good luck OP. We all believe in you - you are gonna do great and we are here for you xx

Echobelly · 10/01/2023 22:32

As soon as I got to the bit about 'says he can do better than me' - that's a total dealbreaker. No one who really loves, cares, or respects about you tries to squash your self-esteem. If he could do better than you, why is he with you? Sounds like he's insecure that you could do better than him - and you could, so you should demonstrate that.