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not sure if i am being dramatic and overlooking. scared of my partner a little. i need advice asap please

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scottishmum2022 · 10/01/2023 15:06

hi there, this is probably going to be quite long winded so i appologise in advance but feel i need to go into detail in order to get peoples thoughts. i have been with my partner for 2.5 years and we have lived together for 1 year. i have two girls 10 and 6 and he has no children. my kids see their dad and child arrangement is 5050. my partner helps me financially and overall is great with the kids, espeically my youngest. they have developed a great relationship.

my oldest has always had behavioral issues, its not like she is punching walls or physically abusive but she is very full on, loud, bad tempered etc. her heart is in the right place and she sees the error of her behaviors but she is getting serious talks every few months of what her behavior is doing. i try to be as close as i can to her and listen to any issues or concerns she has. basically her heart is in the right place but she can be very cheeky such as eye rolling talking back, general disobedience but it is hard working when it happens 80-90% of the time. my partner struggles with my oldest dd behavior and i sympathize and try my hardest to keep the peace and discipline also.

my partners idea of family and mines are both the same. the girls dad was a functioning alcoholic as i like to call it. most of our issues came down to his level of drinking and inability to control himself. i didnt want my kids being brought up like that. their dad has moved onto a new partner now and seems to have matured and calmed down and refrain from acting like that while girls are there.

i really just want a quiet family life and my partner wants the same. on and off i have felt he was abit dramatic with arguments and could mage huge issues out of non issues. he does admit that when he thinks someone is unfair or not nice to him that he does explode and it is somethingt he has tried to change about his character but he just cant do it. when nothing is annoying him he is the nicest caring man. i feel that he is happy as long as things are his way. i feel i am ranting so i am going to write some scenarios of arguments

  • told the dds we would go to cinema and next day he said it was too late and we werent going. because i disagreed and said yes we are i told the kids we are and i wont dissapoint them. this transpired that i am selfish and speaking down to him and i am a bad woman and parent.
  • he arranged a hamster for my oldest daughter last year which i was against but now we planned to move he told her oh we arent taking the hamster when we move. i told him this wasnt fair on my oldest and we had to keep it until it died and he was to learn a lesson not to get animals again and that we cant change minds like that especially when kids are involved. he turned this into i wasnt backing him up and i love a hamster more than him.
  • gets annoyed if the girls make any noise when he wants silence. said they are selfish for not respecting the fact he works. says the same for morning times at the weekend. it has to be quiet until he wakes up. if they have a genuine problem then that is ok but otherwise to see to themselves until we wake up.

on some notes i can see his point as in kids respecting adults rules etc, the kids helping me so they learn how to jobs around the house. he is pretty old fashioned which i am ok with traditional values to a certain point. i cook clean iron do everything and he will offer help. what i dont like is when we have an argument he will criticise everything i do. calls me a bad mum, says the house lacks woman presence, im disrespectful of his wishes, i only think about myself. i didnt buy the right oil the other day and he accused me of starving him cause he couldnt cook eggs. he comments i have a bad attitude if i am not 100% smiley all the time. i feel i am rambling and not giving any context but it is so difficult to pinpoint. he has told me on many occasions that he can do better than me, my parents should be thanking him for taking me and my kids on board when he is such an amazing guy, says he is cleaner than me, knows more about my kids than me, smarter than me, i am to poor for him, i am using him for a house, i dont love or respect him. alot of his behaviour is really concerning me the more i think of it i think he is quite narcasisstic. i hate saying this because i hear it all the time on tv etc. i feel i try my absolute hardest but no matter what i do it will always be me being the failure. he says everything that we argue about is from my side and not his.

we had an argument the other day in relation to the cinema saga. ended a screaming match and him saying to the kids we arent taking the new house because of you and your sister. its all your fault girls. he ignored everyone stamped around, locked me out the bedroom. was shouting saying the kids are unmannered and disrespectful kids and that he would never raise kids like how i have. said i am a failure and a joke as a mother. my 6 year old was distraught and still is by this. she was truly heartbroken and i keep replaying it in my head. he was messaging from the other room saying i dont love him and everyone hates him. i ignored him . he later came through and apologised to my youngest and said sometimes adults disagree and we say things we dont mean and appologiesed gave her a kiss and a cuddle. he said he loves the kids but it is difficult, more so with the oldest.

there has been other issues such as i feel i cant see friends i get nervous approaching the subject as he will say i dont love him or i am not a family orientated person because my mind is only on friends. i have cancelled so many nights out. it is my cousins party next month which all girls care going to including my mum and gran and i am feeling sick at the thought of the saying to him. he acts cool until it is approaching then will cause arguments then say i dont care about him because i chose to go on a night out instead of fixing the relationship. he will comment sayinng oh why dont you meet your friends for a coffee or something. i now feel it is all fake the niceness and that he knows how to play the good guy perfectly.

at my work christmas party i was looking forward to, he acted fine until he seen me dressed up. told me we will speak in the morning and that we are over because i am a cheat. text arguing the whole night with me. told me he wo9uld pick me up and collected me early, refused to take my friend home as he had offered and drove of crazy with rage. he told me at home he could smell dick breath and all this nonsense and stormed off to bed. later that night he apologised and said he g ot jealous and doesnt want to lose me. i just feel everything is abnormal now.

i am definately no angel and i can have a temper and be wrong at times yes, it is human. i feel ground down to nothing like i have lost part of my personality. my stomach has been nervous for over a week now as it has been on and off arguments. he will say i dont want to lose you and then have an attitude and be looking on rightmove but then 20 mins later turn round saying he was just looking in general and he isnt in a mood. its playing with my mind.

am i over thinking everything ?? i really cant work it out if i am this bad selfish person and i just cant see it or if its both of us. i feel scared and sick with it all. i want to protect my children also. i feel alone and confused. everyone thinks he is the best guy ever, polite well mannered calm quite quiet.he can be the best guy but quoting his own words " i can be a bastard if you want the bastard"

sorry this has rambled on with no actual context. i just feel so confused and scared with the thought of am i so crazy i cant see how bad i am or is it him??

thank you for anyone that takes the time to read!

OP posts:
OddSockSeeker · 11/01/2023 06:15

I’m sorry to hear this. Your daughter’s behaviour is because she’s sad. Anger and sadness is coming out in her behaviour because of the energy in the house. Everything you do going forward is a lesson to your girls about how they should be treated. If you don’t want your children treated like this in the future then don’t accept it for yourself. Be clever and careful in how you go about things though. Take care. You can do it. 🙏⛅️

scottishmum2022 · 11/01/2023 08:27

My child has always been an issue with behaviour since she was born. I have actuslly wondered if there was autism /adhd but she def knows how to behave so it Is a choice unlike if she had autism for example, it wouldn't be a choice to act in that way.

I'm going to phone women's aid today and i am just keeping peace until Friday as I dowant want to do this when kids are here.

He tried speaking to me last night about my oldest and he said she just really triggers him and he tries to stay calm but he just feels no one has control of her behaviour and it makes hin want to argue. I didn't say much I just let the conversation pass.

OP posts:
scottishmum2022 · 11/01/2023 08:28

2bazookas · 11/01/2023 00:08

Scottish, is there any chance your ex would give you a little back up to get rid of this man, who is threatening his children?

Ex would def keep the kids if I explained to him.

OP posts:
TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 11/01/2023 09:52

Oh @scottishmum2022 , he expects a 10 year old to control her emotions but he, a grown ass adult, can't control his??

Good luck for Friday and stay strong.

And when he insults you, just say okay. What does it matter what he thinks? You know it's not true.

And when he begs you for another chance, ask him why he wants to be with 'insert insult he threw at you before'.

And please remember, if he threatens to harm himself, call the police to check on him. What he decides to do is HIS choice. It is NOT caused by you. It's HIS choice and HIS alone!

Lolapusht · 11/01/2023 10:11

Please put a plan together…don’t kick him out on your own. Have someone else there for support. If there’s someone else there he’s more likely to behave as he’ll want to maintain the “nice guy” image.

Tell your family…they may not like him as much as you think they do and may well be keeping their opinions to themselves. Let EXDH know too.

Your DC are probably trying to keep on his good side to stop the outbursts which will look like they adore him. If he is shouting and saying the things he does (which are utterly atrocious to say to any child) they will be desperate to avoid the anger/fear so will be walking on eggshells like you.

Your older DD will definitely be effected by his behaviour. He’s modelling aggressive, uncontrolled behaviour. She could well have ADHD etc but mask which can seem like it’s a choice. Girls frequently go undetected because they’re so good at masking at school etc then when they get home to their safe place they can let go which is why it seems their behaviour is really bad at home but perfect elsewhere. Because of your partner, your DD’s safe place is currently violent, aggressive and insecure.

Do not get caught up in trying to work out why he’s like this or says or does the things he does. He is not worth your energy. All you need to remember is that he is very abusive.

Remember that the posters here will be able to predict what he may say and do when you tell him to leave. It’s not because they’re telepathic, it’s because he is a predictable abuser and their behaviour is not unique. Use pp’s advice to prepare yourself for when you tell him to leave (which doesn’t need to be done this week if you’re not prepared).

DO NOT LET HIM KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING UNTIL YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

jeaux90 · 11/01/2023 12:20

Christ almighty. Your DD triggers him!!! Who's the adult!!

And yet, she is supposed to be able to act perfectly all the time but it's ok for him to be an arsehole.

Get him out.

If you do suspect your DD is ND then the emotional chaos with him around will not help. Get a referral for an assessment for her (mine has ADHD and autism, she's bright and thrives in peaceful, loving environments)

Kids with ASD often hate a lot of noise and chaos, they also need time at home to decompress from school as they often "mask" and her being able to let off steam in her own home is important too.

He needs to go.

Twillow · 11/01/2023 18:13

My dad is the kindest most gentle caring man and I could never imagine him shouting at my mum or in thr house in general like that. Your daughter was very brave and smart.

The scary thing for me is that my partners "good personality " Is that person. My mum and gran think the sun shines out his ass. It's like a split personality and I can't comprehend it all

It makes perfect sense. You were attracted to the part of him that was like your dad. He didn't show you the other side until you were hooked. And because you are a good, sane person you examine what he says carefully to see if there is truth in it, whereas he doesn't - what he does is a childlike lashing out which he knows deep down is wrong but his mind can't accept that he's like that so justifies it by blaming you.

Read Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft. I think you can get it on line.

scottishmum2022 · 11/01/2023 19:50

Twillow · 11/01/2023 18:13

My dad is the kindest most gentle caring man and I could never imagine him shouting at my mum or in thr house in general like that. Your daughter was very brave and smart.

The scary thing for me is that my partners "good personality " Is that person. My mum and gran think the sun shines out his ass. It's like a split personality and I can't comprehend it all

It makes perfect sense. You were attracted to the part of him that was like your dad. He didn't show you the other side until you were hooked. And because you are a good, sane person you examine what he says carefully to see if there is truth in it, whereas he doesn't - what he does is a childlike lashing out which he knows deep down is wrong but his mind can't accept that he's like that so justifies it by blaming you.

Read Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft. I think you can get it on line.

Yeah you are completely right. He will admit when he is wrong when he goes overboard but for me the minute he has brought my kids into it has changed my perception of him altogether. He knows something is up but I'm trying to act cool until the weekend.

OP posts:
BarbedButterfly · 11/01/2023 20:02

Do not tell him in person. It isn't safe

jasper333 · 11/01/2023 21:27

Hope all goes ok Friday, have back up ready

LouLou900 · 13/01/2023 06:12

jasper333 · 11/01/2023 21:27

Hope all goes ok Friday, have back up ready

Yes and please come back to tell us all how you are getting on. Can't stop thinking about this thread x

Maray1967 · 13/01/2023 06:34

You need to get rid of him as soon as it’s safe to do so - he is not a good person to have in your home.

NewStartNow · 13/01/2023 06:41

Good luck today. Stay safe.
You really are doing the best thing by getting rid.
I second the poster who advises reading 'why does he do that' by Lundy Bancroft. It's illuminating and helps name those niggles and confusions the abuser puts in your mind.

Please let us know how you get on.

liveforsummer · 13/01/2023 06:53

The game playing with the house is to make you want it more. The more he says he's not sure, he's scared because you've changed etc he thinks you'll want it more - you'll beg him and try to prove to him. It's a way of keeping you in line and trapping you in. I'm glad you're not falling for it. He doesn't mean the apologies, it's all just part of the push, pull cycle to keep you hooked. You're doing the right thing as it will be very damaging for your dc to live this. Please keep us updated

Duckingella · 13/01/2023 17:51

Wait until your children are at their dads then contact the police on your local non emergency number;tell them your ending a relationship but are fearful of your boyfriends reaction and fear he'd become abusive.

Feduppluckingmychinhairs · 13/01/2023 18:53

Get rid of him for your girls sakes, if not your own. And I'd be fairly sure your older girls behaviour will change for the better when he's gone.

ImprobablePuffin · 13/01/2023 21:01

Are you ok, OP?

Leomii81 · 14/01/2023 08:08

This man sounds vile get rid of the loser hope you're OK op x

jasper333 · 14/01/2023 08:13

scottishmum2022 · 11/01/2023 08:27

My child has always been an issue with behaviour since she was born. I have actuslly wondered if there was autism /adhd but she def knows how to behave so it Is a choice unlike if she had autism for example, it wouldn't be a choice to act in that way.

I'm going to phone women's aid today and i am just keeping peace until Friday as I dowant want to do this when kids are here.

He tried speaking to me last night about my oldest and he said she just really triggers him and he tries to stay calm but he just feels no one has control of her behaviour and it makes hin want to argue. I didn't say much I just let the conversation pass.

How are you? You have a lot of people on here thinking of you x

AlexaAdventuress · 14/01/2023 08:29

Seems like the decision is already made and the OP is off to pastures new with the help of Women's Aid. Phew. Thank goodness. I've known one or two people like that over the years (and even had a relationship with one once, sadly). He's clearly very creative in what he can get a tantrum out of. You've got to work quite hard to get an argument out of everyday aspects of family life, like taking the kids to the cinema, having a hamster, or the OP getting her glad rags on to go to a party. Some people are just desperate to litter their intimate relationships with conflict. It's as if they think if you're not arguing you're not really being intimate. The more you walk on eggshells to keep them happy the more they find to complain about. The frustrating thing is that they do know how to behave really. They're not like that with their work colleagues, their doctor, their lawyer, their parents etc. So they know they're doing it!

LouLou900 · 14/01/2023 09:27

AlexaAdventuress · 14/01/2023 08:29

Seems like the decision is already made and the OP is off to pastures new with the help of Women's Aid. Phew. Thank goodness. I've known one or two people like that over the years (and even had a relationship with one once, sadly). He's clearly very creative in what he can get a tantrum out of. You've got to work quite hard to get an argument out of everyday aspects of family life, like taking the kids to the cinema, having a hamster, or the OP getting her glad rags on to go to a party. Some people are just desperate to litter their intimate relationships with conflict. It's as if they think if you're not arguing you're not really being intimate. The more you walk on eggshells to keep them happy the more they find to complain about. The frustrating thing is that they do know how to behave really. They're not like that with their work colleagues, their doctor, their lawyer, their parents etc. So they know they're doing it!

How do you know that OP has gone to pastures new, do you know her? I was thinking more like he's got her phone! Sending hugs, OP, really hope you're ok xx

Alcemeg · 14/01/2023 09:42

Sending you virtual hugs, tea/gin and support, OP. Flowers

denishhol · 14/01/2023 09:48

I think you are overthinking it because your partner sounds like me. I get annoyed over (supposedly) small things and I can be quite vindictive because in my mind if someone upsets me I have to upset them in return. I am not abusive or violent its just my personality. All depends on wether it matters to you how he handles his emotions.

Shgytfgtf111 · 14/01/2023 10:02

denishhol · 14/01/2023 09:48

I think you are overthinking it because your partner sounds like me. I get annoyed over (supposedly) small things and I can be quite vindictive because in my mind if someone upsets me I have to upset them in return. I am not abusive or violent its just my personality. All depends on wether it matters to you how he handles his emotions.

Er, this is a joke I take it?

Redberries85 · 14/01/2023 10:03

denishhol · 14/01/2023 09:48

I think you are overthinking it because your partner sounds like me. I get annoyed over (supposedly) small things and I can be quite vindictive because in my mind if someone upsets me I have to upset them in return. I am not abusive or violent its just my personality. All depends on wether it matters to you how he handles his emotions.

Wow ok - please don’t minimise an abuser’s behaviour especially when children are being affected too